Just wondering if the watersports scenes from the Max Hardcore European videos are real or fake. I viewed a few trailers recently, and they look staged. Just curious.
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Pocketcomb_Pimp Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 4:22PM
From what I've seen that stuff is real. One of the titles I saw a girl flipped out because she though watersports was a stagged act with water. When Max pissed on her, she went straight up mental.
dont think i have ever been able to force myself to sit thru ANY of his movies in the 10+ years I have been really into porn... dude just seems like too much a shrimp dicked little redneck who hates women for me... barf.
Based on what I've seen I pretty much agree. I'm not sure if he hates women or not. I think he's a jerk and I think acting tough on screen not only makes him feel good, but I'd guess there is an audiance of weak backboned men that live out fantasies through Max.
I've read in more than one interview from girls that have worked with him tht he's a decent guy, but an ass on camera.
One thing is for sure. That's cat's full of himself.
i do not like his work. he dresses up the girls very badly.
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 9:22PM
Pocketcomb_Pimp wroteOr it could just simply be an act like mostly everything else in porn. What makes you think that the people who watch him are "weak backboned?"
its obvious its an act, if not he'd be in jail by now. thats why i was wondering if the stuff on the 'harder' videos was real or staged. i've read that many watersports vids are fake. I mean, how many women would allow somebody to piss in their mouths? They must really need the cash or soemthing
Seen him shoot. Not fake. How would you do that anyway? Why would he go to Jail? It's not my flavour of Porn but who am I to judge other consenting adults?
hoenestly that fucker drinks so much water that it's tasteless and there is no real smell either on a scale of piss ive had in my mouth i would give it a 9.5
hey must drink alot of water, it looks like he goes..and goes..and goes..
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 10:13PM
SCORES wrote
I think by staged it means that it's not "real" piss, as in the kind of regular piss that comes out of most people when they urinate. I once read an interview given by a chick named Chloe (a girl famous for doing piss scenes with Max) who said that, before every piss scene, Max would always drink alot of water. Of course, drinking alot of water has some type of "purifying" (for lack of a better term) effect on urine. Even the color is clear compared to "regular" urine which is yellowish in color. And from what I have seen, Max's piss is always clear, meaning that he apparently does drink alot of water beforehand. Chloe then went on to say that because of that, the piss isn't actually that bad. And according to other interviews I've read, other girls who have done those scenes with him agree.
You'd be surprised, especially in the porn world. If you had been to pissmops.com (before it closed down), there were quite a few well-known chicks on that site.
do you remember off hand who appeared on that site?
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realtip Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 6 2006 : 10:46PM
SCORES wrote
I'm not ordinarily good at remembering names anyway, but some of the girls I recall being on that site include Kelly Wells, Chiquita Lopez, Taylor Rain, Kami, Trinity, Lisa Marie, Venus, Julie Night, Arianna Jolie, Ashley Blue, Fiona Cheeks, Chrystal Ray, Brittany Blue, Soma, Malaysia, Mason, Ava Vincent, etc.
I remember Taylor Rain looking not too thrilled with being pissed in the face,and Ariana Jolie gargling with the mouthful of piss first,then swallowing.
Yeah sorry Eric to be so negative about porn, but Max Hardcore is also a mysoginistic pig, who I would like to see ass gangbanged by a group of california prison inmates. Some level of domination is cool, but playing on the theme of pedophelia, and all that jaz is about as cool as the 2004 election result. Max Hardcore was most likely molested as a child by assorted priest(have read he was raised Catholic)and is now manifesting this into his vile content which he calls porn. I don't know what he pays girls to go through that stuff, but I will double it for a simple non quacking/gagging bj. See I do like porn I just don't like violence towards women. -Doyle
Wow. That seems high. I would think that there will be figure skating judges at the Winter Olympics that don't go that high. I imagine your judging system places greater weight on execution and creativity - ah, I'm just kidding!
Where in the hell is my grilled cheese? 575 Posts 3/05
Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 2:03AM
Plus, the way you described it had an undertone of "I'm a fucking whore, not a girl at a juice bar, dammit! Give me something salty!" You sounded almost underwhelmed at its purity.
How do you judge piss, anyway? If Max Hardcore is 9.5, what is 3.0? Or does the scale start at 5.0 or something, and can only go lower than that if it dribbles out instead of a steady stream?
Edited by - The Fly Is Open on 2/7/2006 2:05:59 AM
Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined 1229 Posts 7/05
Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 2:13AM
Max wouldn't be that bad if he would get rid of the puking and deviate from the "Stupid Schoolgirl" schtick every now and then. Yes, he probably has a few issues, but a LOT of people do.
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Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 2:15AM
An interesting episode was when Kayla Marie seemed to be really getting into her boyfriend peeing in her mouth, but freaked out after one of Khan's minions with a Prince Albert stepped up to the plate.
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 2:23AM
Some is real, some is fake.
I got the movie with Alexa Ray done by Max, being curious of seeing her really doing a piss scene(that was kinda no way she would do that for me) After watching it, yeah its fake. When he ``piss`` in her mouth, you don`t see his dick, and it stream so big, so long , its obvious its not real. There a little part where he piss on her tits, there we see the dick but she pull her head really far to be sure to not get any there(but when she take it into the mouth she have no probleme at all) so thats why i came to the conclusion it was completely fake.
Personally im not a fan of Max movie, im not just into the look he put the girls on, i must agree i like sometimes hard porn, but really not into the little pre-teen things, they look completely mess up with make up everywhere etc at the end.
If you want real piss stream (yellow) on a big star, you have to watch cocktail 2 with taylor st-claire, she close her mouth at the second it enter a bit there, but she get double stream and its all real. Jewel also take one on the side of her face in forced entry(not sure if any enter the mouth) but its done by her boyfriend.
About pissmops, i use to see a few scene, some where really yellow piss, must be very disgusting, but where very white, depend on the girl i supose and where she want to go
there is some piss that smells so bad that you would give it negative marks by comparison! Some one who drinks a lot of energy drinks oe eats asparagus (gasp) and i would giver lower marks to some one who goes to hard and to much (yellow menace for example)
Other talents that appeared on the Pissmops-site are: Aimee Tyler, Amber Lynn Scott, Bonnie Heart, Ava Devine, Kayla Marie, Brynn Brooks, Chiquita Lopez, Daisy Dukes, Jayna Oso, Naudia Sin, Rachel Luv, Tia Sweets, Trixie Cas, Brijaye Love, Cameron James, Cris Taliana (she's funny!), Ashley Haze, Misty Mendez, Alex Devine, Naudia Nice, Brandi Lyons, Bianca Pureheart, Gen Padova, Gia Paloma, Daisy Dean, Brooklyn Night & last but not least Tiffany Mynx.
Most of the scenes that feature a 'pro' are shot straight after a Meathole scene.
I don't consider them 'wanking material' but I do like watching them; some are hilarious, others are sorta interesting to see how a girl deals with the situation.
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 10:00PM
I never saw Gia Paloma and Tiffany Minx on pissmops...but i saw a bunch of them but not them, are you sure of that?
well if its real thats cool, i have done plenty of search and saw most of the pissmops scene or part of them(i was never able to catch lisa marie scene exempt of pics but well) and never saw these 2, if you come across them give me a signe :)
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 10:37PM
I saw she did meathole but some of the girl did also meathole without pissmops(nautica thorne, dasha, sativa rose for exemple)
how can anyone who has seen a max hardcore scene even start sayin the piss scenes are fake, what a load of crap.
max is the real deal.
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2006 : 12:32AM
Look at the alexa ray scene from maxed out 15...this IS FAKE TOTALLY FAKE. its like he use a hose with water...and you don`t see the dick, i don`t say all is fake, but the part where she take it into her mouth is totally fake.
I'm Gordie. Among other things, I'm a videographer for Max. I've been with him for nearly 10 years. I'd have to estimate that footage shot by me is on about 55-60% of his videos from 1997-present.
Its not fake. Also, insults about his work, crew or fans is not productive conversation. Nor is it warranted.
The man remains a pioneer, and whether you like him and his style, or not, I guarantee you there are producers/performers you do like that follow in his wake; about 5-10 years behind him.
Yes, it is a character. He starts to get into character around 30 minutes before a scene starts. There is a marked change in his attitude and even his face. He becomes a prick. Once you 'get it' you learn not to take it personally and ignore it and get the job done. You learn to not respond to it negatively because it affects his focus. Well, I do at least; his longtime photographer is utterly clueless of this and is regularly fucking with the crew and Max while the scene is in play; he's a shit disturber.... 'the shit wisperer'.
Like any actor or producer, of any type, Max is somewhat of an eccentric.
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2006 : 3:44AM
i stay with my point, this part is fake, because of the factor mentioned. The stream is too big, the color is too much like water and worst of all we don`t see where it came from(the dick, or in that case the hose) plus it last way too long in my opinion. I have the dvd at home...i know what im talking about(and its euro version so not censored) sure the part where he piss on her tits is real, but when he ask her to face him or something like that to piss on her face she never do it and seem to put her head as far as possible to not get any piss in her face. So as long as you don`t have footage to prove its real, i will stay with my point about the stream in the mouth being fake.
About Tiffany scene at pissmops, did some research over the net and here, so it is true, i would really like to see that scene but i heard there gone(pissmops) that suck...
you shouldnt go running your mouth with opinions when you have no fact to prove otherwise. especially when you can affect someones business. for example in case you are slow, your father owns a meat store and then some jackass is sitting outside claiming he served him/her meat with rat shit on it, and you have no proof it is rat shit but him/her sitting their running their mouth effects business so since you have no proof that the scenes were indeed fake then you shouldnt speak. im not telling you what you should like his type of porn or even to watch it, because maxs porn isnt for everyone but dont critize his work because the 1st amendment gives him and anyone else to make any type of porn they want as long as everyone are consenting adults.
I come from Germany and watch and collect porn for over 25 years. I have seen many many extreme stuff(KitKat,Sperrgebiet,...etc..), but noone can beat Max "The King" Hardcore. He invented things like Throatfuck, Pukefuck, etc.... (Show me just ONE comercial tape with Extreme Throatfuck in it, before Max Hardcore invented it!!!!) To those who say that the piss-scenes(..or the puke scenes) in the Eurotapes are faked an advice from me: "Go and ask the Girls. Go and ask Olivia, ask Kelly Wells, ask Lain, ask Brianna Banks(your´re surely a Vivid Fan?!), etc...... Take the "Emmanuelle"-DVD out of the recorder, ask Daddy to lend you some bucks and buy a Max Euro DVD. Then you`ll realize that Max Hardcore is HARDCORE!!!
Greetings
Frank
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2006 : 3:17PM
LOL steinyman, the exemple you use is completely out of context, IM TALKING ABOUT ONE PARTCULAR SCENE , not the whole bunch. I know most of them are real, saw the Briana scene, saw ann harlow scene and some others, all real. BUT THIS PARTICULAR SCENE with ALEXA RAY had a part fake, and this is said on behalf of having see it and realize. Alexa is not cheap slut and thats why i found that unrealist she took that, i had to see it by myself and realize it was fake. Then if you don`t beleive me, buy the fu.... dvd and watch it
And Franck this have nothing to do of being against hard porn, i watched many meatholes/pissmops scene, many extreme associates movies, i know what im talking about. And yeah i saw plenty of emmnanuelle movies...when i was like 12 years old...
I see this topic has gotten a lot of replies, and I got nothing much new to add.
Just, I been away from porn for a while now, just trying to get back into it, but ask anyone who knows me and they will say I hated Max's stuff for a long time.
I say hated, because I actually do like his stuff now. What changed? Who knows?
But having seen a few complete Euro versions, I do know that if you don't buy the Euro release, you will miss a lot of action. And it's real. Real filthy too.
Just some random comments by me.
- -B -I -G -m -i -k -e, here and there, over and out! - -
Yep, they're gone.. Tiffany's scene isn't one of the best in my opinion.. There's 3 guys pissing on her face, but she's not really that much into it, nor outgrossed. It's a bit dull to be honest.
Honestly, I don't remember one from the other. I mean, after a Max shoot, I usually go and shoot an alien autopsy or something just to ease back into reality.
"criticizing someone's work has nothing to do with the 1st amendment." That is wrong on so many levels, I do not know where to start. So I guess criticizing our President's work our a corporation's work should' be protected either.
Secondly, how come every time somebody criticizes something on this board people freak out and then criticize for criticizing. Max Hardcore definitely has a successful shtick going, but he is not made of Teflon and is open to criticism as is any artist. That doesn't mean he must pay attention to it.
-Doyle
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The Dude Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2006 : 6:59PM
Ann Harlow scene is a good one, with all the stuff you like of Max Scenes...
Braad : Ah ok, if you know where to get it tought give a signe, it worth watching it only because its tiffany :P
And to the others, i did not know it would made such a big think, all i stated was that 1 scene was fake, in my opinion, for me its obvious.
Bummer that it doesn't seem to be legally obtainable anymore. I'd love to help you out, but most probably that would be against this board's policy (of course, I respect that).. I'm a bit in doubt on what to do here.