Anyone see this trend over at Devils film. Now Mickey, he always was a cum eating freak, it worked with Missy because she played the domme so well. But his scene with gia paloma, was just sick- Gia didn't give a damn, and mickey went out of his way to have her shit the cum into his mouth Mark davis he also is a cum eater form way back. I remember when he first got into the biz he would kiss mouths full and covered with his spunk. Theres a huge difference between that and swallowing your cum shat of a porn stars ass. The scene with Arriana Jolle,that kind of works in a way becasue shes such a shit talking domme. I mean if they demand it or show interest in it can sometimes make it more viewable. I mean who could tell ariana "no"? And lastly and most sadly- Jon Dough. I mean was his scene with Isabel Ice the last one before the end. Its like "how the might have fallen". Jon Dough eating his own spunk- that was just SICK! Especially since it appeared to be one of Isabels early scene before she became one of the classic shit talkers of all time.I mean in her current incarnation, maybe, but not when she's totally disinterested. And theres still noway its acceptable for a legend like Dough to be eating his own cum. Men eating their own cum is something best done in private- NEVER to be recorded for posterity. Edited by - heynow on Aug 30 2011
Or, by exercising your purchasing power, you can simply not buy/rent any movies with this. Discretionary income also means you have the discretion not to buy things.
I'm falling in with turcottes on this one. There are threads here praising these cum-guzzling men. This can be the thread for people not impressed by these semen sipping lads.
In my world, women receive and dispose of the ejaculate.
is the general rule that each person should only taste/consume the other's bodily fluid or is there a double standard where she does everything and you do as little as you want?
this is not specifically directed at you, bornyo. i'm just wondering what justifications there are for this mindset.
I think if you read what you wrote you'll see where you got offtrack. There are no rules, but if there were you wouldn't equate women swallowing cum with me (or men, as you couched your post) doing as little as I want. It doesn't add up.
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Rael Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 20 2007 : 2:01AM
I have never seen this happen, and I fully intend to keep it that way. All I can think of is that it turns chicks on, and I am sure it does for some guys, which is just wrong.
not offtrack, i rewrote the second half but in the wrong voice. oops i meant to say "is there a double standard where the woman does everything and the man does as little as they want?" not that correcting my grammar changes the question, or that the fact my grammar was poor negates the question in any way.there are rules in every relationship. they are normally implicit, and may not necessarily be written in stone, but there are dos and do nots.
these two things may not be equal, but i was using them as examples to ask a vague question in a round about way.
that question is:
are most men of the belief that women should oblige them with things like p2m, atm, swallowing, etc., while the man can retain the double standard of refusing to taste their own cum
OR
is the tasting of one's own bodily fluids a hard and fast no-no for both parties?
i'm aware that there's a lot of ambiguity in my generalisations. i am just wondering what the majority of people believe.
* i'm not so good with clarity today.
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Posted - Mar 20 2007 : 6:52AM
I don't care.. If you don't like it. Don't watch it, or fastforward.
I think that there's room for every kinda of weird fetish out there
I can't stand any of the cumshitting no matter how it's done. It looks gross. I don't see how any woman would get off on that sort of thing.
Kissing after the facial is pretty hot though, it's more a passionate thing than a fetish thing to me. It's just cum you know. I've only seen a couple of scenes with this so if it's a trend I'm not with it.
I hate to drop down names, but can I just say that I was not totally disinterested because I was new... Jon had a very difficult time that day, (probably because he knew he had to eat his own cum, because what you didn't see is that he spat it back out as soon as it went in his mouth.) He was up and down so much, that there was no oppertunity to 'get into' the scene. There was not more than 1 minute of continuous sex, and it took hours to do...
hate to drop down names, but can I just say that I was not totally disinterested because I was new... Jon had a very difficult time that day, (probably because he knew he had to eat his own cum, because what you didn't see is that he spat it back out as soon as it went in his mouth.) He was up and down so much, that there was no oppertunity to 'get into' the scene. There was not more than 1 minute of continuous sex, and it took hours to do...
Turcottes:Thanks for the inside scoop Isabel. Yes, it was quite obvious that something was wrong with the scene. Otherwise how could Jon not have you do that amazing reverse anal cowgirl that among other things has made you, in my opinion, one of the top 10 porn stars of all time? Jon Dough along with Max hardcore virtually made the position a standard when it was a rarity in the early and mid 90's. He did classic RAC scenes with Monique DeMoan and Kitty Young among others.
The interesting thing in your post to me is when you said he "had" to eat his own spunk. I wonder if that was a matter of him not being able to work without doing it. If so sad to hear that such a legend was in that position. Speaking as a man, and not as a professional psychologist,and knowing his previous status in porn, I wonder if that particular scene had anyting to do with the end. I mean seriously, its one thing for an unknown queer to be eating his own spunk entirely another for Jon Dough to be doing it.
And to a few of the other posters: Yes yes yes, I could stop watching before the pop, but having never seen such a thing why wouldn't I want to see what it was like, if it was hot or not.Like I said, Mikey's old cum eating antics with Missy were pretty hot, but the one with Paloma where she seemed pretty puzzled by it all was just horrible. And Mark Davis? that was sad, that was just so sad(btw he was another who normalized RAC, I remember a scene in one of John Leslie's movies wqith Tricia Deveraux- so hot!)
To be honest, I don't feel comfortable talking about peoples personal situations in public... espesialy as I don't know the ins and outs... If any performer wants to eat their own cum, then that's their business, you'd be supprised how many performers are not scared by their own cum... It could have been something as simple as he wasn't told the theme before showing up, and then didn't want to drop out...I was new, and didn't know him well enough to be in position to ask him.
Jon Dough is an old school porn legend, and has produced hundreds of great movies, and this less-than-average scene should be dropped into the background... for mine, and his sake...
The series obviously sells or it wouldn't carry on being produced...
And thank you for the huge compliment... to be in anyones top 10 of all time, is extreamely flattering...
It's true! Isabel are top 10-material!!! Best to ever come from Britain (Nici Sterling counted...).
However, I can't help myself but NOT feeling sorry for these guys, who are working with women who might do A2M on regular basis.... If they have to eat or taste some of their man-juice from time to time....so be it.
It's also not my thing to watch but then again I'm old fashion when it comes to these things like males eating cum, males getting rimmed and males getting it with a strap-on. I don't want to watch it because for me that's not straight porn. As long as they don't mix it up with regular porn then I'm down with that because now I have a choice to buy the movies or not. It will be a problem if they will mix it up. They should keep it a specialty/fetish.
I agree, that was the reason why i didnt buy "fuck slaves", the scenes of Annette Schwarz, Sandra Romain, Sasha Grey and Delilah Strong were great; but the strap on thing in the scenes of Kitty was disgusting. Who wants to see a guy getting fucked in the ass, in a straight movie? I think strap on guy scenes are worse than guys eating their own cum.
1. Put a warning on the boxcover about the reverse action.
or
2. Put pics on the boxcover showing us the reverse action.
This way we know what we are buying and we don't feel screwed when we watch the movie and having to fast-forward through the whole thing. At least that's my opinion. I mean I could be wrong but when buying a straight movie you're not counting on these kind of things, at least I don't.
Do your research, people, and download trailers from evil angel website, and you will soon find out that Christian XXX moans with a fat strap-on deep up his back-pipe! You can always check out the trailers there!
well well well my sweet little homophobic darlings...
"Oh Oh But BustdownGal I'm not homophobic I just hate that faggoty bullshit!"
Just don't even respond. Your double standards have exposed you.
There's nothing "old-fashioned" about homophobia and male privilege. You guys have proven that it's as alive and new as the teenagers who stalk today's streets looking for a dyke like me to bang up on.
"Oh oh but BustdownGal how can my own sexual preferences make me a homophobe?"
Because you're so anti-gay that you want to put warning labels on videos that don't even have male-on-male action! All a man has to do is *receive* the same salaciousness that you love to see the women in porn receive...and receive it *from women*...and you're all "oh that's some gay shit--turn it off!"
You reveal yourself as homophobic when you're so phobic of homos that you can't watch a male/female scene without labelling it "homo".
Examine yourselves, mes ami. It's little opinions like these that are part of the larger spectrum of homophobia and misogyny.
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Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 7:23PM
Wrong Bustdown Gal, it's about personal tastes not personal politics. I have no problem with vegans choosing to live the way they do(as long as they don't try to shove their diets down my throat or aggressively try to "convert" me) but their diet does not suit my personal tastes. Same with watching men put stuff that comes out of their dick in their mouth or objects up their ass. If they enjoy it good for them, if someone else enjoys watching it good for them, the fast forward button on my remote works fine good for me.
oh Unk...all "politics" is is "personal" times a million.
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Dither Persona non grata
I love America 650 Posts 8/05
Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 7:33PM
Hey, I love lesbian scenes...
If by homophobic you mean not accepting of other people's preferences, I dispute that. As long as it's consensual, I don't judge people by their sexual preferences.
If by homophobic you mean being seriously turned off by seeing or even thinking about male-male sexual actions, then I'm guilty as charged. But hey, those are my preferences. If homosexuals want me to respect their preferences, I'm fine with that, but in return I'd appreciate for them to respect my preferences as well. What's the big difference anyway? Different preferences, mutual respect, isn't that what it's all about?
Am I sexist when it comes to porn? Sure, but maybe not in the way you picture it. I regard the man in porn as a scene prop, like the couch or the dildo, who's sole purpose is to please the woman in centre of attention, and otherwise stay as much out of the picture as possible.
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the unknown pervert Deactivated User
I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 3:39AM
Dither just did a better job stating my opinion than I did.
The problem here is that we're not discussing male-on-male sexual actions. We're talking about a guy eating his own cum after depositing it in (or on) a female. Ergo, it cannot be gay.
'I don't like this act therefor it is gay' translates pretty readily into 'I don't like homosexuals,' especially when no homosexuals are required or involved. Hence, the red flags.
Personally, I'm not interested in eating my own cum, but I don't think I would magically turn homosexual if it should ever happen. That being so, I'm not the least concerned about seeing somebody else do it. Again, not interested, but certainly not afraid of it. As with much else in porn, if I don't want to watch it I just hit the chapter button.
1) I don't mind guys kissing a girl on the mouth after she's received a facial or swallowed. I don't mind a guy licking a girl's breasts or kissing a part of her body that he has cummed on either if she has smeared it on her body afterwards.
2) But I am not a big fan of a guy visibly eating cum for the sake of eating cum. This includes a girl letting the whole load drip into his mouth from her mouth or pussy/ass.
There's a difference here in my opinion, but I'm not paranoid about this. When it turns from 1) into 2) I just lose interest.
I agree that there is quite a double standard that goes on-and then people wonder why people get the idea that women are exploited in the adult industry.
I'm all for the men getting as good as they give. I say if a man is fine with giving women double anals they should be just as willing to have two women with strap-ons give them a double anal fucking and then clean them straight out of their hole.
Why should the women be pushing their limits all the time and then men get upset over a bit of cum eating or two guys cocks touching in a double vag or anal fucking? Talk about double standards.
This should be a non-issue. Shoot your load in her mouth then, suddenly she unfit for you to kiss.
You shoot your load in her pussy and now it’s so contaminated you can’t touch it, much less lick it.
That said I don’t like “baby birding” weather it’s female-to-female or the depositing male and the female.
I don’t like the dripping pussy either get in there and lick pussy or go on to another scene.
Just make it a continuation of the scene either cum-swap kissing or eating a cummy pussy.
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Dither Persona non grata
I love America 650 Posts 8/05
Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 1:19PM
I didn't even notice this choice of wording could be interpreted like that, I guess I don't have enough experience with homophobia to make the right (or wrong if you like) connotations.
For me, a man eating cum would be a major turn-off, and probably ruin the scene completely, but again these are my preferences. I respect homosexuals' preferences, but I also expect them to respect mine. Not to attack me as a homophobe, a bigot or a hypocrite just because I won't embrace everything that turns them on. Respect is a two-way street, if you want respect, give respect, if you want open minds, display an open mind.
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I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 6:14PM
Maybe because the women are getting paid twice as much as the men.
Let me just say since I brought this shit up, from my perspective it has little do do with faggery. It CAN be hot but it just has never been done convincingly, at least I haven't seen it done well. If its from a domination/humiliation perspective, then fine as long as its well directed and acted, but Mickey and others going out of their way to do something that apparently isn't even turning on the woman, then it actually is gay or at least pathological. Its like a man wishing another man would blow a wad in his mouth,eating it with no regard for what the woman thinks about it, now its not homophobia to identify said fruit as a fag or a queer.
As far as strap on scenes go I'm all for them, again if its from a domination perspective. Chrissy Lees scene and the english girls scene where two girls teamed up on the guy at the beginning of strap attack three were two of the best porn scenes from last year period- silvera knows how to do kinky porn its a time proven fact.Jasmine Byrnes scene from part 2 was a scorcher as well. that having been said I don't think you're a fag hater if you don't agree with me.And also some of the scenes depending on the guy are gay like the one from devils films with Sandra romaine and a few other girls banging some queer with a bleach blonde goatee- that was so gay.
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Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 9:20PM
In the video(s) in question, its approach isn't any different than any garden variety creampie scene. It's mechanical, robotic, and done strictly for show. How people interpret the act is another matter entirely.
Your basic premise here is that you know what's going through Mickey's mind. Since you're a mind reader, I expect you're in Vegas winning at cards every week and have scads of cash to blow. Please send a couple of million my way, there's a good chap.
Oh, you don't know what's going through Mickey's mind? Well, then you're projecting, aren't you?
I really don't have much sympathy for people who are too lazy to get their thoughts in order and just post whatever excuse for logic floats into their brain without examination or consideration of its validity.
One of the first times I saw a man come close to his own cum was in the movie "Nylon" a scene with Rocco and Celeste. He gave her a big tongue kiss and licked her face after he blew a huge load on her face. I was like "Wow", but eating/swallowing your own cum is a whole different thing. Not my type of thing. I have nothing against it but porn is a fantasy and I do not include me eating my own cum in my fantasies.
Your basic premise here is that you know what's going through Mickey's mind. Since you're a mind reader, I expect you're in Vegas winning at cards every week and have scads of cash to blow.
Boy, we sure take ourselves seriously don't we? No, its not mind reading its called "observation" and people do it every day, ESPECIALLY(with varying degrees of success)in Vegas.If you haven't figured out that people can analyze other peoples thoughts based on their actions then I guess theres really no helping you now is there?
Oh, you don't know what's going through Mickey's mind?
How do you know that I don't know whats going on through his mind, do you have the correct answer? And whats your answer based on? Mines based on observation. Did you see the scene? Yes or no. If you can't make a general statement about Mickeys thoughts based on his actions then all of that porn has clearly degraded you to the level of a lower, perhaps reptilian life form. I don't need your sympathy, you're not in my league, you're beneath me.
Well, then you're projecting, aren't you?
I really don't have much sympathy for people who are too lazy to get their thoughts in order and just post whatever excuse for logic floats into their brain without examination or consideration of its validity.
I'm actually a huge fan of the straight guy eating cream pie series and thought when it first came out that devils was on to something now they're like the cream pie capital of porn!!!
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Dither Persona non grata
I love America 650 Posts 8/05
Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 1:03PM
I haven't even mentioned homosexuality in connection with these scenes. I said that I'd find it gross and that I'm entitled to think so without people attacking me for being a homophobe. You're the one who's making connections between sexual preferences and human qualities here. Seems to me like you're a heterophobe.
i am waiting for pornlaw to jump into this thread, but i will say that i agree with hardware, shagdog, and others when its hard to be a homosexual as you are fucking a hot girl. some of you guys are really strange.
and ramsey, it puts a smile on my face whenever i work with your favorite girls knowing you won't be able to watch that scene (trina michaels). lol
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Posted - Mar 19 2007 : 10:34PM