Well this is like a really big deal. She's up there with Kendra among the baddest MILFs in the game. The typa MILFs that put all the young new ladies to shame. Ava's titty game is incredible.
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Posted - Sep 17 2015 : 3:19PM
I'm not a fan of it but the porn game made it's bed a long time ago where "tags" are concerned MM. And still today the vast majority of females in the industry, of all shades and backgrounds, don't work with black males for whatever reason. Now that's their business and i really don't have any time for that. But when it comes to black performers, male and female, perhaps i'm naive but i would have thought there would be some kind of unity considering how both groups have had problems within the industry in the past? And like i said i've never seen Latin female performers bash Latin male performers in interviews like Adrian Maya did to black men...and I've never seen a white female performer specifically put on her agency card "no white men" like Anya Ivy has done to black men. Perhaps those particular women have their own profound issues...but this kind of behaviour is unprecedented from what i can see. You yourself may shoot a lot of white porn...but the difference is you're not bashing black porn and you've said on this thread that you're open to shooting it. Now if the list of black women not wanting to work with black men continues to grow!!..then it would be interesting to see what the reaction would be if the black male performers adopt the same stance with black women too!!.
^ I don't think this thread is the right place to discuss such issue, nor I see what purpose would fulfill to deny work with black men to women who already don't want to work with them. I mean : are you a teetotaler? Yes? Then I won't serve you any beer no matter what! Are really trying to starve all performers you don't like for whatever reason? Do you really want to boycott and push out of the industry those you don't like?
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Posted - Sep 17 2015 : 6:29PM
^^There are several European pornstars who don't do black guys such as: *Alby Rydes *Puma Swede *Vicky Vette *Bobbi Eden *Tanya Tate *Michelle B
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Posted - Sep 17 2015 : 6:51PM
If you don't like the debate you're free to ignore it...no-one's forcing you to read it.
^ There's no problem with the debate, I think what you missed there is this probably isn't the thread to get into it. This is the Mimefreak Appreciation Thread not the Black or White Performers Thread
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Posted - Sep 17 2015 : 7:25PM
As a director i merely asked him his thoughts on black female talent stigmatizing and disrespecting black male talent...where else could i have asked him?
I have no problem with that, and that's fine. I think it's more just a general thing that may have started as a question but potentially could derail the thread. I'm not even saying it's your fault as many people will probably have their own views on this. I will say though it was you that called it a "debate" :) I will now remove myself from this and get back to the topic at hand and that is, MF I am really looking forward to see what you do with the Ava Addams Showcase. Massive potential there for something special Edited by - madman16 on 9/17/2015 9:53:50 PM
exactly what I meantPoint is this is no thread for debates unless they're related to mimefreak's work and the topic you brought isn't related with him besides he apparently already said people outside the industry don't known enough to judge Edited by - LCF on 9/18/2015 8:42:45 AM
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Posted - Sep 18 2015 : 12:19PM
That would be truly amazing. But I don't expect any anal in that flick.
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Posted - Sep 18 2015 : 3:12PM
Erm i asked him a question relating to PORN politics!!..and the last i checked he works in THE PORN BUSINESS. So i'll kindly say again if you don't like my conversation with MM you don't have to suffer it, just move on. Edited by - iwatchusmash on 9/18/2015 3:58:55 PM
A light bulb just went up. How about this: I noticed gangbangs are popular, and so are reverse gangbangs. So since blowbangs are popular, how about a reverse blowbang? People dig seeing guys gangbang a girl, and also girls gangbanging a guy. It only stands to reason then that if folk enjoy blowbang, then just like reverse gangbangs being popular, so would a reverse blowbang. You know what would be fire is a gang of girls reverse blow banging Mandingo. Let's see which sexy girl in the freaky crew can be the Oral Queen and conquer Mandingo's meat deepthroat style. Anyways I heard about Mandingo teaming up with Mimefreak recently and I duno if there are more plans for collaborating, but I think this would be a great idea. I've seen similar scenes back in the day featuring Jack Napier in reverse blowbang with chicks like Gianna and Cherokee other hot honeys, and Rico Strong has also put it down in some reverse gangbang previously. Prince just had a recent reverse GB for some other company. But it's been a good while since I saw a multiple female v Mandingo scene. We need to see the best oral champs out there (is Inari Vachs still around?) in a match with Mandingo.
I don't see how you shooting her second anal scene after the Tushy scene has already been shoot and released, would be "stepping on anyone's toes"? But OK.
^^ Because more than likely, that scene also came with an exclusivity period where she could only shoot anal for Tushy, much like the exclusivity period she had around her first IR scene with ArchAngel. So shooting for a movie that's in production right now would probably breach said period, which would be stepping on toes. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 9/18/2015 6:08:14 PM
There's a shitload of threads on the matter , he already said here that there are a lot of thing going on behind the curtain you don't know and will never do, neither is he going to say anything about this. And I prefer to discuss his work without having to browse and scroll pages of pages made out of thin air , so even if I ignore the debate driven only by you because in my house a conversation is made by two or more people exchanging view and informations which is not the case here , he's not giving out vital informations . It's like a blind discussing a rainbow out of guesses about it without even knowing it comes in colors this "debate" or "conversation" if you prefer actually does affect us all and especially those looking for informations , not to mention MF's precious time forcing him to read and reply all of this unrelated stuff , you know he reads every post here, on his twitter , his blog and everything else, it's time consuming and he has a lot of work to do, not to mention a family I'm sure he'd rather be with as any regular man with kids would. Edited by - LCF on 9/19/2015 2:45:18 AM
Erm "us all"? YOU are the only one blabbing nonsense and making a big deal out of my conversation with mimefreak though!!. And tbh it's no surprise because you have a history of running around the forum like some obsessed boffin sticking your nose into things that don't concern you. If MM had a problem with me asking him a question about the state of black porn then i'm sure he would have said so!!..but he HASN'T...therefore, in all honesty, i really couldn't give two sh/ts about whether you like it or not. I've said my peace to MM and YOU are the one taking this thread "off topic" now, not me.
^^ You're not having a conversation I know your history here you're trying to put out of the business those performer whose behaviour and career choices don't fit your ideas. And you're subtly suggesting to MF that those you deem unworthy should be refused by the other black men in the industry and not allowed to work You're "conversation " ( formerly a debate) looks like an attempt to talk MF into your view and boycott those stars. Apparently I'm one of the very few who actually cares enough about those girls to challenge this. And BTW he did answer the issue, maybe you missed itEdited by - LCF on 9/19/2015 4:34:57 PM
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Posted - Sep 19 2015 : 5:48PM
SIGH!!...so now aswell as trying to be an "authority" around here he's also pretending that he can't fathom basic english now? What a surprise!!.. 1. point out to me what "history" i have? Because you're quick to run your mouth so i'd like to see evidence 2. Secondly so asking MM what he feels about black female performers blatantly disrespecting black male talent and also refusing to work with them is apparently "wrong" now? You're not African American from what i gather so i guess that's why you're failing to comprehend this discussion 3. Yes he answered and i responded to that post too..which i'm entitled to do 4. And lastly stop trying to act like you're a mod around here...you make yourself look extremely foolish imo.
Why the hell do you keep putting MM as my initials...I don't know what the lack of reading comprehension skills when it comes to my name...It's not MEME FREAK...It's Mime...Hopefully you know what I Mime is...so please please please put MF instead of MM anyway..back to the matter at hand...I must say your opinion on the matter is very one sided. These girls aren't out there bashing black performers. They just don't have it listed. It's really sad how some of the fans take this personal. To me it doesn't matter. I don't dislike a chick when she says she doesn't do IR...I won't complain about a chick that's black that doesn't wanna do a scene with other black men. It's a matter of preference. At the end of the day I focus on the girls that are doing what I need them to do in my videos. Those girls that have shot a scene for ArchAngel knows we cater to them. They get the makeup they want, they get the guy they want, they get to pick the clothes they want and they have a say in the scene they are performing in. Now some are better then others and I will adjust when need be however I want everyone to be happy with what they are doing. I will not reply to this topic and I appreciate you allowing me to know your thoughts.
That's a good idea however when it comes to the amount of money we would have to spend I don't think it would be worth doing. Maybe we can get something like that in a showcase of some sort.
Thanks for taking the time out to reply Mimefreak.This is a nice gesture and i will surely watch and pay for your content.Stay blessed and keep up the good work.
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Posted - Sep 20 2015 : 3:18AM
LOL yeah sorry MF sometimes i type quick because i have other things to do!!..Pardon me. 1. Anya Ivy specifically has "no black men" written on her agency card 2. Adrian Maya said in an interview "i don't "like' black men, I'm not attracted to them" To me that is stigmatizing black men. But it's fine to disagree and you clearly have a different outlook on life to what i do. I don't take it "personally" either as i don't know these women and have no desire to know any porn chick in all honesty. But when one looks at the porn business as a whole and sees how Black males are often treated by women of other backgrounds...it has been surprising to see the same behaviour adopted by black women too...that's all i was saying. But despite me seeing no logic whatsoever in some of your explanations i still thank you for providing your opinion on this subject. regards Edited by - iwatchusmash on 9/20/2015 3:31:32 AM
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Posted - Sep 20 2015 : 4:38AM
She's someone I've been dying to shoot for ArchAngel. We will see what happens.
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I respect you a lot MF, but please don't shoot IR with girls like her. I know you're going to disagree, but PLEASE! Edited by - Curtom on 9/20/2015 4:40:59 AM
Alright well it's yall's business so I can't tell you what your profit margins will be. Although unless I am missing something, isn't a female performer's rate lower for oral-only? It cant be as high as it is for vaginal right? Nor as high as it is for anal? I would have assumed oral only is the cheapest of the three, but I'm not claiming to be inside the biz like that. I really think if these chicks were smart they would consider lowering their rates to work with Mandingo or star in a scene with him in any capacity. I understand women are paid more on average than men, but the average newish female can't be as valuable as Mandingo. Or maybe what I am missing is the priceyness you mention would be from Mandingo himself in a scene with multiple women. That would quite literally suck if it costs more for him to have multiple girls blow him. lol But yeah maybe it would work as a novelty scene for a feature. Whether it's a Mandingo feature or for the next lucky female who gets her own Arch Angel feature. A scene with her and a couple of her favorite female friends blowbanging Mandingo would be crazy. Thanks for the response.
I'm seeing some hot tweets about Ava's feature and also the new Arch website. IDK which is happening first, but it looks like they may coincide. Hype machine in full effect right now!
I respect you a lot MF, but please don't shoot IR with girls like her. I know you're going to disagree, but PLEASE! Edited by - Curtom on 9/20/2015 4:40:59 AM
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Im curious to why. Let me know what's on your mind.
Your comments make a lot of sense. And you are right. I agree with this partially but lowering a rate for a guy such as Mandingo is kinda hard to get. Especially when the dude has one of the biggest (if not the biggest cocks) in porn. So I don't know if that's possible. There are deals put in place but its kind of hard to get them all done. So you know what you know and its almost right on the money. It's just hard to get over the greed when it comes to the industry. There are also other reason that I can't speak on.
The Booty Movie 3 is the next destination for me... Kendra Lust scene is the most awaited one... I just wished Katrina Jade scene would have also with Manuel Ferrara... better luck next time...
I will get them together if I can. I know that you have been asking for it. All special request will be granted for members of the ArchAngelVideo.com website
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