There are many ways models start in the biz : A traditional way would be solo teasing , then soft lez action , then BG etc ... Others begin straight with a 5on1 Dp Gangbang , as sometimes seen on Legalporno ( Yes , sometimes the models weren´t even known from the databases of model agencies , or at least from the publically accessible part ) One of my preffered examples would be Chloe Amour , whom I came to know in a lesbian threesome scene . Then some years later I was very happy to see her debuting in DP . Soon later she astonished me with her first airtight ! ( 3on1 - for some already a gangbang ) Given the present condtions I see it rather unrealistic to see her in a 4on1 or 5on1 ( for some the " real " gangbang ) which would feature DP + Double Blowjob + Airplane , but hey , a man can dream .... On the other hand Monica Sage , my fav Central Asian girl , already grabbed my attention when I saw she had DP listed on her model card . But I liked her so much that I could´t wait for a DP scene and checked out her solo teasing videos ( I don´t do that with every girl ... ) . Then she surprised me by doing 2 gangbangs in a short time : One too rough for my taste and the other bordering on it , but still enjoyable . So she falls into a category of girls that already have done gangbangs but not yet a 2on1 DP ( This is a newer trend according to my perception ) . In fact I already suggested to her on Twitter that she might do a DP scene with kissing ( and hopefully without the raw gimmicks ) . BTW , I also feel the lack of lesbian scenes by her : She totally needs to do a lesbian threesome with footlicking . Similar case : Alexis Avery did her first DP in a 4on1 scene . Waiting for a 2on1 . Moreover she has BGG listed , but I think that has not yet been exploited ( no GG though ) . Edited by - airtight_fanatic on Oct 18 2018
Very interesting cases are those where the actress did some non-nude modelling before entering into porn . It so happened with Ariana Marie . I watched some of her Lez threesome scenes during the last years , and didn´t see her first Dp coming ... ---- Concerning Ashley Adams , I checked back her thread and found myself on the first page ( in 2015 ) wishing for her to take many dicks after I knew of her anal debut . Then she fulfilled my wish 2 years later with her first Dp . Not being a lazy human , she went further and upraded to her first 3on1 airtight ( Brazzers House ) this year --- Not very happy about the squirting part , but she seemed quite happy being fully filled up . If it hadn´t been for the interruption of impatient busty Lena Paul , I think Ashley would have devoured these cocks at least for 40 minutes ... Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 10/19/2018 8:07:14 AM
Coco de Mal has teased her fan community 5 years ago with a DPP scene , but did not do it ever again ... I read in other forums that she also stopped doing anal bcuz she didn´t like it . Somehow I lost track of her porn delivery during all these years ( only sporadically checking if she was still active ) , but this year she has surprised me with her first Dp , which topped all expectations ! Patience has definitely paid off . :)
Now that Vienna Black has retired , I realize that she was kind of a semi-crush to me , or maybe even a real crush ... She doesn´t go out of my head , and I feel obliged to check out her catalogue even more .
So , even though she has done some anal scenes , she never did DP ; but then I realized that she never even did a BBG , Furthermore no Gangbang , no blowbang : No chances to see her with one dick in each hand , nor 2 dicks in her mouth .
( There is a BBGG however , without the right interaction )
Other models however have done BBG , gangbang and blowbang , but never anal . You would say that anal is more rare ; but it seems that Vienna has set her own parameters ... ):
Gia Derza and Jane Wilde were 2 anal girls who were on my Dp wishlist and they did their first ones roughly during the same time . ( Also : similar half-latina look )
Interesting enough that they haven´t done a DP-Gangbang yet , even after quite some time since their DP debuts has already passed . ( Compare that with Febby Twiggs who was much more quicker in all these steps )
Febby Twigs is quicker than a train from Okinawa .
She had Dp and Dap ( not my stuff generally ) on her card since the beginning , and fortunately she got her first Dp some few months later . Thats´s exemplary conduct . Bonus for the foot-vision during the black Dp scene .
Then quickly she got a 4on1 DAP on Legalporno . I would have have preffered DP , but sometimes Dap is a requirement over there due to the strong fanbase and lobbying . But she did a double-blowjob during DAP which looks also nice .
There are so many other girls whom I would have wished to be so succesful in their Dp and Gangbang endeavours . ( Daisy Stone and many others are still waiting ... )
^I don't know if she had much of an evolution because she basically did anal on day one. I wouldn't have gone the LP route as quickly as she did it doesn't seem to have affected her career so far.
Even better would have been romantic BG footloving scene first and a lez threesome , before going the anal and Dp route , but I don´t complain because she has delivered so quickly on the dp side .
^True but I find that when a performer jumps into the really extreme stuff early on then she tends to not be able to go back and do the less intense stuff that has some serious appeal.
Even on the Dp platform I feel the lack of intimate 2on1 scenes , even when they already have done 3on1 and 4on1 , like I have mentioned the cases of Monica Sage and Alexis Avery before .
It´s not out of my doing , but Febby Twiggs seems to pop up in many fields ...
As I just went to the Daisy Stone thread to see if there is an advancement on the DP-agenda , I noticed that she is paired recently together with Febby . It made me realize painfully that Febby got many things done very quickly , while Daisy Stone has expressed her wish to a DAP some years ago , and to this day has not a single DP scene .
I can say with all honesty that this is one case where people would pay me not to get naked and they would pay me even more not to appear in any sex videos. I have a face and body that is meant for behind the camera.
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BRATTACK94 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 18 2020 : 1:00PM
interesting topic! Have got an example for a model who got better and better in her performances the more scenes she produced?
^Lisa Ann, Julia Ann and Nyomi Banxxx come to mind as actresses who got progressively better and nastier over time. Ava Addams would've qualified, but she peaked amazingly before regressing into doing scenes even more vanilla than the ones she did at the beginning of her career.
First a Footloving scene , then not so long afterwards her anal debut . Could be contender for my fav list ....
Now , I am glad that she has done lez threesome already , but I am waiting for a fitting one ( no dildos ): Ex- with Scarlet Scandal and Brixley Benz .
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hoochimama Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 7 2020 : 6:02PM
This is by far my favorite thing in porn, when a long-time tease (6+ months of noticeably dodging a specific act) takes the next step on the porn circus act ladder.
Now the vanilla porn actress circus act ladder most people think of goes clothed->naked->toys->GG->BG->IR/ANAL->DP/TP/gangbang->Richard Attenborough presents Animal Planet. With most pornchicks starting at either the toys, GG or BG stages.
Of course fetishes sit a bit askew of this, for instance dominatrixes might be fully clothed but will jerk or suck dudes off, in japan GG is considered dirtier than BG, IR may be dirtier than anal in the USA and the other way around in africa or europe.
Or if you roughly split it, in the nudity axis you have: Fully clothed (booty shorts at most, youtubers, instagramers, femdom/fetish models) Bikini (softcore glam porn like Denise Milani, urban modeling magazines/ most instagramers will at least do this much) Lingerie/thongs/gstrings (this is where they clearly are at the nudity dodger level, includes youtube lingerie try on haulers, fashion lingerie models, urban models, girl next door type stuff like findrow, most youtube/insta girls who move to patreon/onlyfans don't go beyond this level on their paid subscriptions) Chakuero/almost naked (where you can see the outer edges of nipples/butthole/pussy lips, some extreme youtube videos, urban modeling videos, the better patreon videos, japanese idol videos, british tv babeshow chicks/born2tease etc) Topless (mostly just femdom/fetish wrestling chicks who will show tits but not ass/pussy) Full Nudity (playboy-types, sites like metart, hegreart, onlyallsites, most instagramers/youtubers/femdom fetish chicks will sell these in private)
In the "dickless hardcore" axis you have: Fingers slightly in pussy (chicks like Erica Campbell or Aria Giovanni posing for suze or danni ashe) GG softcore/"petting" (bmovies) Finger masturbation (mostly skinny euro chicks) Toy masturbation (skinny euro chicks, "famous" webcam/naked news chicks) GG carpet munching (congrats you're a pornstar! there's no skipping this step in mainstream western porn if you want to go higher) GG toying each other's pussies GG strapon fucking (this is hot when they're known dick-dodgers) GG toying each other's asses Ass to Ass (hottest thing 2 chicks can do)
In the "penis" axis you have: Non-genital touching of man (touching a man's chest, legs etc, mostly femdom) Strapon fucking a man (bread and butter of femdom) Softcore BG (B-movies, rare nowadays but it's hot when dick-dodgers do it) Footjobs (femdom) Handjobs (femdom ex: Alexandra Snow, club party sites like inthevip/parthardcore/dancingbear) Titjobs (usually only femdom chicks stop at this level, ex: Lexi Sindel) Assjobs/rubbing pussy and ass against erection (amateurlapdancer, realgirlsgonebad) Blowjobs (a lot of chicks on clips4sale stop at this stage, ex mark's handjobbers head bobers) Vaginal sex with boyfriend (mostly chicks who sell through their own profiles/sites/stores, ex: Jelena Jensen) Vaginal sex with random guy BBG Facial (Nicole Aniston known for disliking them and certainly dodged the next step) Bukkake IR Anal DP Gangbang TP ???
Not all steps are worth the same obviously, the most significant ones being when a chick finally goes naked and finally fucks a dick.
This means there is a huge amount of progressive "firsts" that a well paced chick can do to keep the fans interested in seeing more, to keep her porn "advertising" career afloat. I find that when a chick enters the industry and immediately gets gangbanged/triple penetrated and tossed aside a couple of months later it's a huge waste of potential. When the first ADT "First Anal" thread popped up I suggested a requirement of minimum 6 months in the industry or the thread would be flooded with european castingcouchers that nobody knows and thus nobody feels teased enough to give any sort of "I can't believe she finally did that!" effect to a "First Anal".
Is it even possible for a performer to take it slow today? I mean it's not like there are dozens upon dozens of possible studios/sites to work for. Newbies these days either do some mainstream porn in the hope to gather enough fans to make a jump to OF or other platforms lucrative or they realise that the demand for their services is not there. Not that I think going the OF route is now a good business plan. I think more and more women are finding out that OF is not as lucrative as they were lead to believe.
I think the days when a performer could earn enough from softcore or midcore with the odd dip in the hardcore pool are over. You either go all out with hardcore or the next girl will do it.
