With the hope that they would be doing more mainstream scenes per month during the rest of 2024.
Ember Snow ( now more active on Manyvids ) , self-booking : apparently only 1 scene Babi Star : 3 scenes . Never has been prolific : the most she had were 21 scenes in the whole of 2022. Sawyer Cassidy : 4 sc , with Hussie Gracie Gates: 3 sc ( not sure if she is still shooting though ) Nia Bleu: 3 scenes ( started last year ) Vera Jarw : 4 sc
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Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 1:02PM
Yeah, with the suicide of Kagney Linn Karter and Emily Willis' travails still fresh in everyone's minds let's shame some girls for not putting out enough scenes.
I mean, it's not like they are real people, with real problems and real feelings, right?
Come on girls, put on your big girl panties and get on your backs. You're just a product to be sold and your "fans" demand those scenes NOW!!!!
Apparently you have not read the post on Angela Gostosa´s thread about her almost "begging" producers to book her . (As an example for a model that wants to get more scenes but does not get enough opportunities)
Additionally you seem not be aware of how many models repeatedly retweet their booking invitation done by their companies ( as often as 3 times a month ) probably because they feel that they haven´t got enough offers.
Here she is retweeting the booking propaganda just 4 days after the original one! On top of that it´s also her pinned tweet... She seems quite serious in getting more work and I like this attitude and try to collaborate with that.
Not only do you seem to be a troll , but also seem to suffer from reading deficiency: I have mentioned in the first 2 tweets that some models are bookable, that means that the ball rests more with the agencies than with the models. Quite strange that you want to imply that I want to lay some blame on the models...
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Posted - Mar 9 2024 : 2:27PM
^ Oh, man, I didn't realize you had TWO whole examples!
What about the other girls you mention?
Porn consumers are hurting the industry that they supposedly like by asking girls to do more and more scenes and more and more acts. The mental health in the industry seems at an all-time low to me.
With the literally hundreds of porn girls out there, people need to expand their horizons and look for other girls while waiting for their favorites to make their next scene.
I like Gal Gadot but I don't expect her to make 10 movies a year.
Also, I'm not the one who named this thread "Models having insufficient output in 2024". Insufficient is your word. Look up the meaning of that word.
Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 3/9/2024 3:39:34 PM
Mental health and drug use are two problems currently in this industry, but what about the girls struggling financially? You see a lot of new girls on social media almost begging to be booked, that makes them vulnerable also, because it forces them to accept and do anything in desperation for money and then worse things happen (I don't even want to mention them). Less work, less money.
I won't say the name of the girl, but in December I saw how this girl was on Twitter desperate because she didn't have money to pay the bills. Could she manage her money better? Maybe... But if they don't book her, how will she earn money? And from what I've seen she seems like a girl always willing to work, so it's sad to see her in that situation.
I don't know if I'm wrong, but I have the impression that scene rates have gone down lately, so that also affects. That's why every day we see more girls doing "things" outside the industry. I don't like to say it, but they will find some way to earn the money they don't earn in the industry.
The current porn reality is that there are more models than there are jobs available so that even if a model is open to shoot just about anything and also had a great agent able to get her multiple shoots per month. She still won't shoot all that much because the studios that were there ten or even five years ago don't exist anymore and the industry isn't adding new sites/studios. How many less studios will there be in five years? Models can try to go the route of cam, OF, MV, C4S and others but there is even more competition as those platforms are flooded with models.
Scene rates have gone up, A LOT. It's not just the girls asking for more, but everyone is asking for more, from producers whose day rates have doubled, to location rentals going for twice or 3X what they did before the pandemic.
Some girls asking for way more, even newcomers, and I'm not entirely sure if its because they actually make a lot of money from their OF, or they believe the OF propaganda and pricing themselves for future expected income.
This is pretty accurate. I'd like to add that it's quantity over quality and it has a lot to do with tattoos and piercings. Let's take Liya Silver as an example:
Many girls may look at her and think, "Liya has those underboob tattoos and she's super popular, so I can get them too and be popular". Unfortunately, many don't have Liya's cherubic face and big natural breasts. Frankly, too many girls available look like they belong on burningangel or suicidegirls. Many will debate my stance, but top-pornstar lists are usually dominated by youthful-looks and minimal tattoos. Melody Marks for example, is MEGA POPULAR despite few studios wanting to book her because she is supposedly difficult to work with (to be clear, this is what I heard. My own experience with her was quite pleasant and professional)
From the agency side, I see most of them working quite diligently for their clients and trying to get them bookings.
I think there's a lot going on. I think the fact that OF seems to be a lot more lucrative is part of it. I also think that Piracy is another big part of it, it's a lot cheaper for companies to hire one girl and have her film multiple different scenes over a week than it is to hire five girls to do one scene a piece. I've also noticed that a lot of new girls getting into the business are a lot pickier about what they're willing to do on camera, and that's fine, nobody should ever be forced to do anything they're uncomfortable with, but if you're getting into porn and facials, swallowing, and anal are all things you're not comfortable with, you're probably going to have a much harder time getting booked than someone who is willing to do those things.
We pay by the scene so this isn't true. There's a little wiggle room for a discount if the girl is really desperate for work, but this is rare.This was very true 10 years ago. Much less true now. If a girl is good-looking and has a decent fanbase, companies will make adjustments to accommodate her. A colleague observed how it seems like companies are now the ones begging girls to do their scenes, and this is true with top talent.
I forgot to mention a big development that is related to this topic: increased content restrictions.
After what happened with pornhub and their 2258 issues, the type of content we are allowed to shoot has greatly decreased. For example, we can't shoot zombie scenes because that would be necrophilia. We can't do vampire stories because it implies blood-letting (even if you don't show it). We can't do anything that implies coercion or illegal activities. We especially have to be very careful around pain and discomfort, so there is less incentive to shoot girls who are wild and crazy.
This may also be why it feels like there are less studios/imprints and why less bookings are made. There's less variety. You'll probably start to see more trans stuff in all honesty.
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Posted - Apr 14 2024 : 1:27PM
^ How dare they?!?! On your backs and open those legs up ladies!
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Posted - Apr 14 2024 : 1:46PM
The women are the workers. Business, generally, *intends* to operate such that workers are closer to desperate than comfortable. The tougher it is to get work, the more pliant the women will be, to the companies AND the agents. That's just standard practice. Add on tons of competition and a desire for new faces, and it probably is tough to get booked.