i recently saw pics of ms. alexander that show her with a new tat. and in pic nr.32 it somehow looks a bit like she has bigger breast (although i hope its just a push-up bra)?! just have a look at this avn gallery Edited by - MsM7784 on May 16 2008 Edited by - MsM7784 on May 28 2008 Edited by - MsM7784 on May 28 2008
Yeah if you look at pic #34/44 in the gallery posted above, you can see she still has her perky cute natural titties.
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john_qyoo_public Deactivated User
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Posted - May 16 2008 : 5:56PM
If she has inflated her boobs then I'll probably have to stop following her too. I'll reserve judgment until I see them because there's a small chance they'll look good. If not, I'll just buy all her stuff made prior to disfigurement. The tattoo sucks. I hate tattoos. Don't these women understand that the tats interfere with their jobs? The ratio of viewers who hate them vs. viewers who love them has to be huge. I mean, when was the last time you heard a viewer say, "yeah, she's hot but she doesn't have any tattoos so I refuse to buy her stuff"?
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CrouchingBear Deactivated User
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Posted - May 16 2008 : 6:01PM
I'm tearing up my Monique Alexander fan card. This latest tattoo looks like it covers half her side and back. I understand that some people like them. I'm sure you're pleased with her new look. I am not. I miss the old Monique. Alas, she is gone forever.
Man, you guys are harsh. It's not like she looks like this.
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john_qyoo_public Deactivated User
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Posted - May 16 2008 : 6:50PM
To me, each tattoo is a blemish. The more blemishes, the less attractive she becomes. A small tattoo on the ankle or something is no biggie. Start getting into sleeves and ass-banners and whatnot and it's all over. And I don't see this as harsh. It's not like I'm spewing hate at her, or demanding her arrest. I'm just closing my wallet. I pay her (even if in a vanishingly small fraction - take away all vanishingly small fractions and bye-bye career) - she doesn't pay me. Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 5/16/2008 6:53:05 PM
@john_qyoo_public: Yeah, okay, I guess you're not being that harsh. It's obviously your right to buy what you want, and even to voice your preferences. I just sometimes feel like people go from saying "she's the best!" to saying "I hate her!" when a porn girl changes one thing. There are so many parts to a person, that I just can't see so drastic a change in opinion when they change just one thing. Oh, and there's no boobjob, BTW. Definitely look at pic #34, you can see they're the same as always. But anyway, like I said, I guess you weren't being that harsh. I mean, I don't think the new tattoo's all that great, but I still think she's sexy. But I guess if she already had the max amount of tattoos for someone's liking, then one more and it's "no more!" - I guess I can see that. And besides, it's not like you saidI'm sorry, but ^that is harsh. (Sorry CrouchingBear. I don't mean to pick on you. But it was harsh. Or, if not 'harsh', it was 'melodramatic' at the very least.) [edit: left out a word again. I gotta stop doing that] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/16/2008 7:17:20 PM
Tattoos are not attractive on a model. She smartly made a name for herself and then decided,'Okay, now I'll mark myself up.' She couldn't climb the ladder today with all that ink, it is just not pretty. I see there's no Lanny Barbie in this Vivid Girl photo set, so I'll assume she's no longer under contract.
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CrouchingBear Deactivated User
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Posted - May 17 2008 : 12:08AM
First of all, please don't edit what people say then quote them out of context. What I wrote was the following:
What I said is by no means harsh. I am stating my preference to - from this point forward - never again buy, rent or watch anything with Monique Alexander in it. I'm sure she's a great girl. I just don't like tattoos. Currently, she has at least five tattoos. And, each one she gets seems to be significantly bigger than the previous one. I don't want to have anything to do with wherever this is headed.
Edited by - CrouchingBear on 5/17/2008 12:12:09 AM
The female body is nature's greatest work. To defile it with ink (or boob implants) is an abomination. Monique's appearance has deteriorated from the cute slut next door to the disturbed whore best left alone. Tats on chicks suck. Edited by - xformyzombie on 5/17/2008 9:58:29 PM
@CrouchingBear: You don't think "I'm tearing up my Monique Alexander fan card" is at the very least melodramatic, as I said? I mean come on, man... there isn't even a card - but to picture you tearing it up because a woman that you were obviously very much into (I mean, you did have her fan card, after all...) got one more tattoo, to add to the several that she had already? I mean, can that tattoo on her side really make you now loathe someone who you previously loved, despite the pink star above her right toes, "Bad Pussy" on the back of her neck, the hello kitty on her bladder, the butterfly over a flower on her left side above her buttocks, the small pink heart beside her navel, and the flower on her arm? All those tats are just fine, but this one makes her unwatchable... It just seems strange, is all. (Parts of her tattoo descriptions from her IAFD entry.)
@CrouchingBear: I feel bad, I really don't mean to pick on you, I know you just joined ADT, and I hope you have a good experience like I have. I'm not trying to be nasty - sometimes I just argue a bit. Welcome to the board, dude. :)
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - May 17 2008 : 11:41AM
I really like Monique's Hello Kitty tat, however, the new tat on her arm makes her look like that misunderstood bad girl in high school with dyslexia and ADHD that sat in the back row drawing all over her arm with texta markers.
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CrouchingBear Deactivated User
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Posted - May 17 2008 : 1:19PM
They can't be happy at all. Then again, they aren't entirely blameless. You'd think that a big company like that would have an attorney on staff with the brains to include breach of contract terms relating to tattoos. In the future, with other girls, I'm sure they'll include such language in their employment contracts. The bigger question is what is Monique thinking. Her body is quite literally a money maker. It keeps her fed, clothed and housed. How many of us would roll the dice in that situation? The only logical explanation is that Monique wants out of the business and this is her way of forcing that end.
That's a good point. I read on Adrenalynn's thread that DP had a stipulation in her contract that she couldn't get any more tattoos between when they signed her and when she filmed "Deeper 9". Surely Vivid could do that kind of stuff too. Then again, maybe Monique would only sign a contract that allowed her to get whatever tattoos she wanted. Who knows...
You can clearly see Meggan Malone's new boobs though and apparently she is having problems with them. Why women like her and Nella get boobjob is beyond me as their bodies are the very definition of perfect before them. Hope she feels better.
I agree. Girls always seem to be on their way out when they start marking themselves up. Was Meggan forced to get implants? Or did she just want them? It was a bad move, because the lack of implants was what made her look young and fresh, i.e. the young girl look which she could have ridden for a few more years.
It could've been worse. He might've chosen to go with the depiction of either the infamous "Alien Autopsy" filmed in Roswell, or your garden-variety anal-probing montage.
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CrouchingBear Deactivated User
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Posted - May 18 2008 : 11:06AM
At the mere mention of anal-probing, somewhere Taylor Rain's ears just twitched.
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john_qyoo_public Deactivated User
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 3:37PM
I try to do neither. I tend not to rate performers (whatever the medium) as human beings, except as the issue impacts performance. Monique is probably a nice gal and I wish her well. I do question her professional judgment, obviously.
Yep. By no means would I kick her out of the sack. But, there are lots of girls competing for my dollars and as I've said many times before here at ADT, I follow girls not studios. So in all likelihood she's just gotten herself elbowed out of my queue. It sucks because I just discovered her b/g stuff a couple weeks ago and I got all excited about her and dragged the majority of her b/g stuff into my rental queues (even she's not hot enough to get me to watch Marco Duato) - now she's most likely disappeared herself once I've seen the backlog and bought the keepers. Oh well!
Same reason roughly half of America only seems able to break up with their significant other by the cheating route, maybe? For some it's easier to play the passive-aggressive victim role ("YOU kicked ME out, remember?") than to initiate rejection.
I saw all last monique' scenes (THE SUNNY EXPERIMENT,COED POOL PARTY,SUNNY LOVES MATT AND PLEASE ME) and i loved her only in Sunny loves matt (fantastic scene)! In the other scenes she appears bored... I remember her in LEXY AND MONIQUE LOVES ROCCO or PRETTY MESS, she was very sensual, she loved to fuck... I think that now she doesn't love to fuck, What do you think about? Edited by - ls657017 on 6/11/2008 4:57:30 AM
IMO, Monique does not appear bored in some of her recent scenes. For example, her fuckfest with Steve St. Croix in "Call Girl Confidential." Still, boredom is one of the hazards of being a porn performer. Right now, Vivid has Monique doing just about everything, with the exception of gangbangs: anals, IR, multiple partners. And, as the youngest blonde Vivid Girl, she's been called on to appear in many, many of their videos. This could account for her looking bored, too. But, since Vivid just hired two new (and younger) blondes (Hannah Hilton & Nikki Jaye) Monique will probably get some rest. Plus, she now has a civilian boyfriend, so that also could be a reason for her looking bored while getting fucked by guys she doesn't care about. Retirement is also an option. Last thing, the tats are also a sign of boredom.
One thing nobody's mentioned about Monique's latest tattoo is the fact that it appears at this point to be merely an outline. Once that thing is colored in, her body's appearance is going to be really, REALLY altered.
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CrouchingBear Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 13 2008 : 6:40PM
Good point. I wondered why it was just an outline. It didn't occur to me that it would be filled in. Poor Monique. Without all the tats, she could have exited the adult industry gracefully and quite possibly had a future in mainstream films.
Yes, smaller tattoos can be done in one sitting, but a really big one usually cannot. First, just the outline of the design is tattooed onto the body. Then, after a few weeks, once the outline has healed completely, the coloring and shading begin--how many sessions this might take depends on the size and the complexity of the tattoo. From what I saw in the video of Monique with Sammie Rhodes, this tattoo is absolutely huge. I'd say there's a good chance we'll see this tattoo in various stages of completion over the course of Monique's upcoming movies. (One thing tattoo addicts seem to enjoy is showing off their tattoos in various stages of completion--I guess Monique is fitting the profile perfectly.) Also bear in mind that Vivid is both sitting on a number of movies already in the can, and that they're not releasing them in the order they were shot. For instance, "Sunny Loves Matt" and "Please Me" both featured a Monique with a wrist tattoo. However, in her latest release as of this writing, "Watching My Wife," she lacks the wrist tattoo. I bet her next couple of releases, "Cry Wolf" and "Where the Boys Arent #19" will not feature that wrist tattoo. How many more movies will be released before the newest tattoo makes an appearance even in its outline form is anybody's guess--I figure it will be late autumn 2008, at the earliest.
Some of us squares prefer generic over freaky. But, that's all personal taste. The main topic of this tread is how the tats (and what we wrongly thought was a boob job) would affect Monique's career. If, like most of the comments on this thread, her fans don't like the tats, she made a bad mistake. So Vivid, in hiring two new hot blonde girls (Hannah Hilton & Nikki Jayne), may be positioning themselves to have Monique's replacement in the twentysomething, blonde girl category--which, generic or not, sell more sexvids for them.
I was "friends" with Monique on her My Space page back when she only had 60 friends (unlike the 13,689 friends she has now), so I actually got replies to a few of the e-mails I sent her. I asked her the exact same question that dave27 asks here. (This was way back, right after she had gotten the cat tattoos on the back of her neck and on her belly.) She said that Vivid hadn't said anything about her tattoos, but she thought they wished she wouldn't get any more. BTW, Monique posted photos of those two tattoos on her My Space page LONG before they ever turned up in a Vivid movie. She had captions telling about how proud she was of getting them. I notice she hasn't done that with any of her more recent, much larger tattoos.
I think you may have a very good point here. I also think comparing Monique to Janine Lindemulder may be somewhat apt. For much of her career, Janine had just a few tasteful tattoos. Then all of a sudden, they started getting bigger--too big to be tasteful any more. Then she got her arms sleeved and huge tattoos on other parts of her body. I saw her on the Howard Stern show, and Stern asked her about the reason for all the tattoos. Janine replied that she didn't want to still be doing porn by the time she was forty, so she was getting a full body suit in order to make a porn career impossible for herself. I think that comment of hers says a lot about Janine's bad judgement. Janine quit long before she got her body suit finished--I don't know if she's still planning on completing it, or if she's given up on the project. There are several ironies to Janine's comment, though. Firstly, she retired from porn, but then made a comeback (after she was forty, I believe), so the tattoos failed in that respect. Secondly, even if she did have a full body suit, I don't think that would stop anybody from hiring Janine as a porn actress. Thirdly, if she hadn't gotten all inked up, she would have looked incredible long after she passed forty and could have maintained her position as a top porn star for many years to come. The thing is, Janine's comment shows that she wanted out of the business a long time ago, but she just couldn't walk away on her own, so she was passively-agressively trying to get forced out. And even after she did leave, she couldn't keep herself from coming back. But enough of my trying to psychoanalize Janine. The point is, Is this a round-about way for Monique to try to get out of the industry? I don't know--but the situation does seem to eerily mirror Janine's in some ways. At the very least, all I can say is that Monique has very poor judgement and very bad taste in most of her tattoo decisions.
Dear cm37564, I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Monique is anything but generic. I noticed just how magical she was the first time I ever saw her--and that was in "Love at First Byte"--a film in which she only had a brief non-sex role--but just seeing her fully-clothed for a few seconds was enough for me to know that she was one of the most special ladies to ever work in porn. I started seeking out her movies after that, and at the time, they were actually hard to find! She was that new to porn. I was so happy when she finally became a Vivid girl and moved into porn's mainstream. As for your "squares" comment, don't think that my berating Monique's tattoos makes me a square. I've got nothing against tattoos in principle. In fact, IN PRINCIPLE, I love tattoos! I will even confess to having a tattoo fetish. A good tattoo can make a girl so much hotter! The problem is, bad tattoos have the opposite effect--and IMHO, most of the tattoos I see out there on most people (including porn stars) are in bad taste. I love the Hello Kitty tattoo Monique has on her belly, but as for the rest of her tattoos--all I can say is, Monique might possibly win an award for worst taste in tattoo selection. How sad that such a giant of porn messed her career up like this. (If she had had good taste in the tattoo department, I would have been here typing about how all her tatoos make her so much hotter--but alas! It was not to be so.)
Thanks for the photo, "Xformyzombie." I had almost forgotten how beautiful Monique used to be--before the tats. No wonder Vivid has Meggan Malone, Hannah Hilton, and Nikki Jayne "on deck" waiting to take Monique place. Given the fan reaction on this Board to her tats, I wouldn't be surprised if the sales of Monique's DVDs slipped significantly. And having lots of tats restricts the "type" of scenes she can perform in--having her play the innocent school girl is probably out of the question, now. Talk about Bad Career Moves.
Hehe...now I gotta step in for her... I never was into her "old" looks, when she was younger and didn't have the tats. I love her now. She looks gorgeous and I think it's great that she's getting more ink. ...an now:
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Jun 23 2008 : 9:52AM
You can't keep playing the innocent young girl all your life - we all grow older. Although I am not personally a fan of tats, I think that they make Monique look a bit more interesting than the average porn chick and may actually end up extending her career somewhat. In porn it is sometimes better to grow old disgracefully.