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| ttgirl New Member 5 Posts 3/11 |  Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 9:21PMFirst post. Just wanted to mention some of my peeves when it comes to male performers. I'm a straight female and though I like the way a lot of the guys look and perform I can't stand a few things: The fake tans and the tendency for males to shave bald. I know for porn it's practical when the girls fuck so much they need as little irritation as possible and shaved hair helps them out, and tan lines don't work well with lighting makeup: but my biggest peeve is that normal guys imitate this look and I find it so feminine and so ugly. I dislike shoulder and back hair (especially lower back hair right above the ass) but I like leg hair, i don't mind some chest hair, the pubes don't have to be a jungle but they don't have to be bald like a baby's crotch, and i grew up in socal around surfers and tan lines to me are hot. I like tan bods and white booties lol. So many guys I'm with do the "porn look" and i hate it. it looks feminine. Gay. Whatever you want to call it. What's especially weird is when a guy is very hair EXCEPT his pubes. It reminds me of a crop circle. That looks even more ridiculous. Women are supposed to be smooth. Soft. Perfectly tanned. Because we're women. It's sexy. But men shouldn't judge what makes a man sexy but by what makes a woman sexy. I want a guy who is a guy. Not a manicured pretty boy. If a guy has a tan he should be tan from being out in the sun playing sports or surfing or laying out. Not because he went to a tanning booth. Anyways that's my rant lol. I wold love to see more porn with the same guys only with a more natural look. And as for the Playgirl series...which is made for women. The HD couples crap is OK. I wish they made harder videos for females. Same dirty sex but maybe some slower stripping. It doesn't have to be costumes and music and fancy camera shots like in the Playgirl series. But maybe some foreplay. Doesn't have to be boring. But maybe if the performers took their clothes off slower. Get to see the guy in his undies and the girl in her lingerie. And then it can get dirtier. Also as far as porn for women goes...keep the cumshots which i find hot but the close ups don't have to be that close or that many. And the sex doesn't have to be so technical looking. Maybe a little rough housing. More shots of the dudes bootie. More chest to chest missionary. Less choreography on the sex scenes and more spontaneous fucking. LOL I am opinionated today. Anyways. yay. These forums look interesting. If anyone in the higher ups is reading they should know that girls watch porn and we do watch the guys and nobody has really "nailed" porn for females yet. It's far too "romantic." Girls who watch porn are horny not fantasizing about mr right to come sweep them off there feet. I'd much rather watch straight porn made for straight guys but my only peeve is again...not enough shots of the guy, the guy looks too mentrosexual..the sex looks too choreographed and not spontaneous. Also one more thing. Porn for women can be rough. And even a little degrading. it's ok. I don't mind and a lotof girls who watch porn don't mind. He doesn't have to whisper sweet nothigns. He can choke, spit, call her names slap her around. A lot of women are masochistic like that, particularly those who i know who watch porn. As longas the girl agrees to it and knows what shes getting into then its not bad. Even plot porn with a forced scenario ... which I know isn't politically correct, I would find very hot. As long as the female was the main character. Instead of all these porns where women always make the first move it'd be nice to see a genuinely horny man try to fool around with a girl and have her resist a little. All shy and innocent lol. Even a gangbang porn where the girl looks a little shocked or intimidated. I think a lot of girls don't want to be the one's who make the first move. We're taught to be good and proper so these types of videos where a girl is good, but gets to experience great sex without initiating it kind of takes the guilt out of wanting it. Does that make any sense? I always fantasized about being taken advantage of because in a way it allowed me to stay "good" and "virginial" and it became the guys "fault." I know thats not very politically correct either but its how I think and a lot of my friends have thought. No girl wants to be the slut that seduces the guy. Most want the guy to be so overcome by desire that he seduces us. I guess some of that might be in violation of the law. But yeah....lol I am just giving my two cents. Porn is awesome. I grew up with family in the business so it has never shocked me and although they didnt flaunt it in my face i was curious enough and smart enough to find the porn stash. POrn allows me to have safe sex with myself and not risk getting diseases or pregnant or emotionally hurt. I can't have porn sex with my boyfriends. Because then they'll lose respect for me. I have to keep them wanting it. I got to use my pussy to my advantage to get guys to do what i want :-D (being a girl is so hard lol) but at the same time i am a horny little bleep and i need an outlet also. If my boyfriend ever came on my face he wouldn't be able to look at me the same. Even though he wants to i wont let him. But in my fantasies...thats another story. Bring on the cum shower lol [Link] |
| freakdude28 Member 145 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 9:59PM [Link] |
| Algaliarept Senior Member 3557 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 10:04PM Edited by - algaliarept on 3/26/2011 10:05:30 PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 10:40PM I've been saying this same thing all along. But when I say it, people get upset and imply that I'm being chauvinistic. It's good to hear a woman also say that it's weird and unmasculine for men to shave their body/pubic hair. When I say it, it's just one man's crazy sexist opinion. But hearing a woman say it gives it more authenticity. I'm glad somebody- an actual woman- agrees with me on this.It makes perfect sense. Trust me, it's not just women who feel this way. As a heterosexual man, I completely agree with you on these points. Again, it's just good to hear them being expressed by a woman.This reminds me of an episode of Sex & the City (am I losing my credibility as a straight man by admitting that I used to watch this show?) in which one of the characters refused to have anal sex with her boyfriend. It wasn't necessarily that she didn't want to do it. She was more afraid that he would lose respect for her if she did it. To paraphrase her reasoning, she says "I don't want to be the 'up the butt' girl. Men don't marry the 'up the butt' girl." Funny, but true. Edited by - realtip on 3/26/2011 10:44:37 PM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 11:27PM [Link] |
| ttgirl New Member 5 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 11:38PM As for DAF's comment...have you ever heard of Peaches? She thinks like you do and she rocks. I'm just saying that women are kind of expected to be smooth and look a certain way because men like it and then men think "well since i like smooth girls, maybe girls like smooth men" and so they try to make themselves girlier to be sexier. But yeah you're right girls shouldn't HAVE to be smooth either if they don't want adn I guess men don't have to be hairy and muscley if they don't want. There's something for everyone out there and so yeah I hope my comment didnt offend you. But porn is made to sell a product and so the producers probably want to make porn that will appeal to their core audience more than nicheaudiences. But women are not a niche audience. We are 50 percent of the freaking population and porn could be doing more to make us want to watch also. But yeah i don't speak for all women and you're right some people do like that. Just me personally i like my girls in porn to be girly and soft and my guys in porn to look manly. Sorry if i offended. HUGS As for not having porn sex with my boyfriends. As a girl i do get emotinoally attached sometimes to the guys im with. and if i really like them it's funny I will hold back because like you said "I dn't want to be the up the butt girl" lol or "ms facial." But I also have the added pressure that my dad is a porn star. And hwne people find that out they automatiaclly think oh well she must be a total raging slut it runs in the family. So I have this thing where I try to overcompensate about having a dad in the porn business by being as "normal" as possible. Sometimes it's hard to tell if guys want to be with me for me or if they want to be with me cause im the porn stars daughter. lol And they think i must be crazy in bed doing all sorts of gymanstics and contortions and shit lol anyways thanks to all. And sorry for the spelling mistakes I type really really fast. [Link] |
| ttgirl New Member 5 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 11:40PM [Link] |
| Algaliarept Senior Member 3557 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Mar 26 2011 : 11:41PM [Link] |
| kranky Member 36 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Mar 27 2011 : 12:54AM [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Mar 27 2011 : 6:53AM [Link] |
| ttgirl New Member 5 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Mar 28 2011 : 3:35AM James Deen...is too skinny for me. I know he doesn't shave but he is just too skinny. I don't like his look. As for Corbin Fischer.......i dont have anything against gay guys. i read yaoi....which is romantic. and i lloved brokeback mountain lol but when it comes to porn i like the men dirty and masculine...and i guess it sounds politically incorrect but if a guy is gay4pay....it kinda ruines it for me. i met a porn star who was gay4pay and i didnt know he had done gay porn and as soon as i found out...my attraction went away. i dont midn gangbangs or dp..in fact i love that but i like alpha males and if i know a guy had a dick in his mouth or had a dick in his ass....it would kinda ruin it for me. seth dickens is a good example. he is phyiscally what i am into but when i found out he did gay porn....it just made him less hot. no offense to anyone out there. the guys i like based on looks: (though i wish they woudlnt fake fan, shave etc) levi cash jordan ash dick delaware dillion day johnny sinns steve drake tyce bune van damage mark ashley favorites based on looks and performance jordan ash mark ashley brandon iron guys that i hate: any guy who was a porn star in the 90s...lol unless they also worked in the 80s. the 90s was teh era of the uglies ugliest porn star men i have ever seen. except maybe vince voyeur and the british guy who owns kink....who used to be so handsome back then (what happened??LOL) as for who my dad is he has "retired" as a performer...and he browses these forums a lot. he has no idea how into porn i am and also he wouldn't appreciate me telling people who he is because he doesan't want anyone to know he has two daughters...and hates porn people even though he is one. lol but yeah he is kind of a charlie sheen type guy. loveable but very very fucked up lol. [Link] |
| Cuddly Wombat Senior Member Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Mar 28 2011 : 6:26AM But yes, I agree it is time that the whole metrosexual/herbivore man nonsense died a natural death and we all got back to rough, hairy, primal man on woman sex. [Link] |
| Mutley72 Member 57 Posts 9/10 | Posted - Mar 28 2011 : 12:54PM I think men shave for different reasons. For example, my wife wanted to lick/suck my balls, and I wanted her to do it. She does not want to lick hair, so I shaved them. She loves it and so do I, so it's a win. Here's my 2 cents on your 2 cents: My wife used to be pretty reserved sexually...now she does anal, takes cum anywhere, you get the idea. I definitely didn't lose respect...I just wanted to do it again and again. Did I think of her differently? I suppose I did, but all those thoughts are good ones! [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Mar 28 2011 : 4:43PM Anyway, Peaches ROCKS. Best live show ever, and yeah, she addresses feminist/queer issues such as this. [Link] |
| kranky Member 36 Posts 1/11 | Posted - Mar 29 2011 : 10:59PM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 7:06PM So does anyone have any good recommendations for films with a guy who's really hairy, especially his pubic area, but the woman is shaved bald? I'm particularly interested in scenes with Asian women and barbarian white males. (I still definitely prefer hairy pussy, though! And I personally shave down there!) [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 7:39PM Who cares, you ask. Well, a young woman is more likely to survive childbirth than an older woman. Bearing children takes quite a toll on a woman's body, so if a male partners with an older female the odds of begetting many children by her are not good. On the other hand, we men need to demonstrate to potential mates that we are mature and experienced. The last thing a female wants is some callow youth who'll get eaten by the first lion he comes across, never mind the low status a young male would have in the social group. [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 7:53PM ttgirl welcome to the forums,you make a lot of great points and you are correct some guys going for the fake bake tan Guido look end up looking like something that Chernobyl has spat out,some guys can carry off certain looks i think Manuel can get away with bald/shaved trimmed look as he is in good shape too and "eyes" might be on his body too instead of just his cock..if that makes sense lol. Although trying to picture Dirty Harry with a bald as a coot tickling stick might be a step too far for some..i guess that we all like a look that does it for "us" from girls being attracted to bodybulider type guys to guys being into super skinny girls,personally i have always found that girls with an hourglass figure do it for me.Others prefer blondes/gingers etc. , [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jul 12 2011 : 3:08PM Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 7/12/2011 3:09:25 PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jul 12 2011 : 5:13PM [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jul 13 2011 : 7:06AM It comes down to the individual girl, I reckon. Some tans suit more than others. [Link] |
| dirtyharry Member 96 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 8 2011 : 2:54AM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 10:50AM [Link] |
| StarGrek Deactivated User Under the moonlight. 1763 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 8:07PM well that's an interesting topic... mostly because a new woman is presenting her thoughts very.. decisively. God I love women... Still, I guess miss ttgirl here, is “steering” too many subjects with one topic. The chapter "male" in porn nowadays has a big margin for lots of discussion honey... Even if I am a man myself maybe I can somehow “feel” what you are trying to say… I don¢t really think it is about looks, but mostly about genuine masculine behavior. About the spark in the eye which the male “hunter” has when he wants to conquer the feminine fortress. The way he stares at you, he focus on you, he desires you, the silent but so meaningful glance, the seducing smile, the kiss, the touches … the energy, the passion. Miss ttgirl, It is very difficult to find that in porn for a simple reason. In porn, women are served in the plate, male performers know they will eventually mate with the woman that the director or themselves paid to be with. Real men in real life have to work hard, sometimes for a long time to achieve what adult actors can do in a few hours. And that¢s because… Thank God.. real women are like you.. They are not so easy to fall. So this struggle, this alluring anticipation, this fascinating and contingent erotic game is what makes us men. Real men. PS1. That British guy you were talking about is called Mark Davis, and yes the bastard, he has a bit of the charm of Pierce Brosnan. PS2. For all of you mindteasers I have to tell you that I am not gay… I would like to see a male performer as an extension of my self… even my better self ;) [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 11:08AM [Image not found DB] That beautiful woman is Evelyn Lin. Now, I would prefer that she keep her bush, but she has a bald pussy. The look still works, though, because her lack of pubic hair heightens her feminine fragility and submissiveness. As a petite Asian woman with lovely feminine curves, she looks like she should be ravished by a thoroughly masculine partner. Instead, what she gets here, and in just about all here scenes, is a some hairless guy with no pubes. Imagine how much hotter this scene would look if this hulking, bulky man had a hairy chest and a virile bush of pubic hair surrounding his cock. It would be Beauty and the Beast, with Evelyn about to be ravished by a hairy Western barbarian. Instead, he just looks ridiculous. As ttgirl suggested above, there is something stimulating about traditional gender roles. I'm all for individual expression and bending the rules, but that's not what's going on here. It's no coincidence that you basically have to go back to the Golden Age to find really hot, man-on-woman sex in American porn. Rocco Siffredi and Steve Holmes are two performers who consistently have body hair and full pubes (although it looks like Rocco may have started trimming of late). It's not a coincidence that they're just about the only male performers I can stand in porn today. (I just wish there were more scenes of them with Asian women.) Edited by - DAF1740 on 1/29/2012 11:13:02 AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 1:44PM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 2:23PM  "'I Can't understand what you are saying,' cries the Nagasaki prostitute to the Dutchman in an 18th-century woodblock print: 'Just push! Do it harder!' To judge by the barbarian's claws at her thighs, and the incense to cover his rancid breath, the woman wants to get this East-West encounter over with fast." From The Economist. More Shunga with barbarians here. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 2:40PM [Link] |
| DAF1740 Member 305 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 3:52PM To be honest, I wasn't even thinking about Evelyn's race when I posted that pic. I was more focused on how ridiculous the guy looked. The woman could've been of any race and my point would've been the same. (Although perhaps physiological factors tied to race--white people tend to have more body hair, East Asian people have less--played a role in the anticipated contrast of a hairy white man and a relatively hairless Asian woman.) And, as you pointed out, race definitely came out in my analysis, in a strong way. For the record, I personally find the white/East-Asian erotic encounter particularly appealing, in both directions--I think it's extremely hot to see Asian men with white women (provided, of course, that he has pubic hair, with a strong preference for her having hair, too). [Link] |
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