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coveryisadick
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Posted - Dec 19 2015 : 5:33PM
getting into vintage porn. what are some of the best hardcore (nastiest) movies of the 70's and 80's? i m talking group sex, dp, deepthroating, etc. the nastier the better.
Edited by - coveryisadick on Dec 19 2015
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Posted - Dec 20 2015 : 3:24AM
Nastiest in the 70s and 80s usually means more dark themes around rape, etc as opposed to DPs and gang bangs.
For instance, the only DP in the classic era that comes to mind is the famous scene with Georgina Spelvin in The Devil in Miss Jones.
The nastiest films of the classic era are best found via directors like Zeb Colt, early Shaun Costello and Armand Weston, Joe Davian and Alex De Renzy and some of Roberta Findlay, their best include:
Not with My Husband
Babyface
Pretty Peaches
Femmes De Sade
Farmers' Daughters
Appointment with Agony
Defiance of Good
Taming of Rebecca
T0MBOne
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Posted - Dec 20 2015 : 2:23PM
What Black Six said.
I have a review of BABYFACE posted.
My other reviews of darker themed classics include:
AMERICAN DESIRE (one scene in particular)
BELLA
EXPENSIVE TASTES
LITTLE ANGEL PUSS (her descent into drugs and prostitution)
TAKING OF CHRISTINA
VISTA VALLEY PTA
Then these two flicks embrace dark themes but are inept films that end up being unintentionally funny:
SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIAL
TEEN ANGEL
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Edited by - T0MBOne on 12/20/2015 5:37:17 PM
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Posted - Dec 20 2015 : 5:43PM
I was just watching this one. If there was a classic in need of a decent release, this one is it. Three companies have released this film and every one of them is subpar.
I wouldn't suggest that my worst enemy watch this one.
Going along with the suggestions, off the top of my head I would add The Story of Prunella and Through the Looking Glass. None of these are nasty as in DPs and gang bangs but as for content.
T0MBOne
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We can only hope Vinegar Syndrome gets a hold of Babyface and all the other Babyfaces out there----tmb
 
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I have heard, but have seen no proof one way or another, that the original elements for Babyface are missing. It would be great if they do get to that film. They released some of his films already.
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Posted - Dec 23 2015 : 8:18AM
For the 80s, look for director Gregory Dark, such as New Wave Hookers. This stuff was a big deal in the early VHS era.
For the 70s, Alpha Blue Archives had a few boxed sets, such as the Joe Davian collection, that featured the "roughies" of that era. Quality may be an issue, as the Alpha Blue stuff that I saw was clearly transferred from old vhs and not the original film. I can't even find a website for AB . . . .
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Posted - Dec 24 2015 : 3:49AM
^ Shaun Costello had some pretty rough stuff in his box set from Alpha Blue Archives as well. Yeah I don't have anything appearing on my screen either when I googled Alpha Blue Archives I got Database Error.
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Posted - Dec 24 2015 : 8:08AM
Their website comes up for me?
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Posted - Dec 24 2015 : 10:30AM
I wouldn't risk purchasing directly from AB, they've become unreliable. Their stuff is available from secondary sellers.
Afterhours Cinema has put out a set of early Costello material and actually have the rights so I would suggest ordering their sets instead.
Edited by - BlackSix on 12/24/2015 10:32:29 AM
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After Hours Cinema has released several DVDs of Costello's work however I am unsure of exactly what their relationship is. Costello wrote linear notes and supposedly approved the transfer for Forced Entry yet on Rock! Shock! Pop! review of Avon 7 Triple Feature Collection: Slave Of Pleasure 2-dvd Set, Costello commented that After Hours Cinema was distributing those titles without permission. Generally After Hours Cinema's releases of Costello's work is in better shape, however many have been edited (I assume for print damage).
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Posted - Dec 24 2015 : 11:18AM
Thanks for the info Flash, I assumed that since he worked with them om the Forced Entry release he was involved in the others.
Two other classic from the 70s come to mind not already mentioned
DOMINATRIX WITHOUT MERCY
AFTERNOON DELIGHTS
The first is one of the most oppressive S&M films I've seen although with some black humour. AFTERNOON DELIGHTS isn't particularly dark but is has a very memorable gang bang scene with Vanessa Del Rio. I wonder if this scene was the inspiration for a similar scene with Asa Akira in Insatiable 2.
Edited by - BlackSix on 12/24/2015 11:19:40 AM
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 5:01PM
Regarding Alpha Blue Archives: The AdultEmpire.com Unlimited site that advertises here a bunch for 50% off has hundreds (300+) of their releases as part of the program, many of which are of the double- and triple-feature variety, as well...so the number can be legitimately multiplied accordingly.
I've actually been quite impressed thus far.

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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 5:10PM
Desiree Cousteau enema in the bathroom...
She was something special.
Definitely a "roughie", though I had trouble buying into this one.
"A Dirty Western" is similar...for those into the nonconsensual motif.
This one is both graphic and believable. Borderline disturbing in places.
Anyone but My Husband? ... or am I mixing two titles up?
(Haven't had a chance to watch this one, yet...)


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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 5:21PM
If we're talking about nasty themes, then the Taboo series by Kirdy Stevens certainly ranks up there...with its onscreen incest and what not.
#1 and #4 are my faves.
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 5:24PM
Yeah, I second all the roughies. FORCED ENTRY is super disturbing, and I will also add WATER POWER (1977). See if y'all can handle that.
I have also heard that L.A. PLAYS ITSELF is really hard to stomach. Never did see it, but I think exploitation.tv put it up, so....
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 5:26PM
This film is nuts. Nicely restored on exploitation.tv.
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 6:16PM
I thought it was too slow and bloated.
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 6:45PM
Too slow and bloated to be disturbing? Or to be good? (Or both?)
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 7:31PM
Honestly both. I wrote a review of the film here. I thought Laura Cannon was amazing in her role but that Costello lacked the skills necessary to pull of the film at the time. If he had tightened the film to 55 - 60 minutes and had a better finale (both ending scene and ending) I might feel different. But as it stands I couldn't get into the film.
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Posted - Jan 2 2016 : 7:36PM
^ Thanks! Wow, one star! You really didn't like it. Wholeheartedly agree about Laura Cannon. Unbelievable performance. I am rather partial to the ending, though.
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^ I really, really didn't like it either. In fact, I couldn't finish, bailing out part way through. Yeccchhh.
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Posted - Jan 3 2016 : 2:33AM
fu_q is right I meant ANYONE BUT MY HUSBAND, less for it being particularly dark, more for the memorable threesome with CJ Laing deepthroating the huge dick of Tony Perez while being roughly fisted by Deanna Darby.
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Posted - Jan 3 2016 : 2:37AM
FORCED ENTRY is as rough as it gets, the Laura Cannon scene is nightmarish, worse than anything I've seen in a horror film I think. I watched a rough VHS boot long before the legit release which may have added to the feel of authenticity in that scene. I've never felt the wish to revisit it, the first viewing was enough.
I didn't find LA PLAYS ITSELF very disturbing, although I could just be getting jaded. The first section is quite purposefully light and gentle, the second section certainly gets dark but it feels very much like a S&M fantasy, originally when I saw it the anal fisting was missing, the restored version available on exploitation.tv is more effective with it included.
Overall it is the artfulness of the film, the clearly intended contrast between the two sections and the Anger-ish collage techniques makes it less disturbing to me than something like Davian's APPOINTMENT WITH AGONY which due to its blunt primitivism is something like what Stephen Thrower once referred to rape loops as: the 'degree zero' of misogyny.
In terms of darker gay xxx I'd say the best I've seen include De Rome's THE DESTROYING ANGEL and Toby Ross' nihilistic DO ME EVIL.

Edited by - BlackSix on 1/3/2016 2:56:43 AM

 
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Posted - Jan 3 2016 : 12:53PM
^^Just watched that one -- "Anyone but my Husband" -- very good!
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^ and ^^^ Anyone But My Husband is a big favorite of mine. Not dark at all, in my opinion, as darkish elements are handled with a light and often humorous touch. C.J. Laing's repressed housewife character comes out of her experiences at the end a much stronger and more independent person. Oh, and also she is seriously hot with a raw sexiness that really gets under my skin. Pardon me as I fan myself a bit while remembering parts of the movie -- and many of her other movies, while I'm at it; for example, I am suddenly mentally zooming in on the dungeon scene from Maraschino Cherry, with Ms. Laing along with Annette Haven and Gloria Leonard. Whew.
Edited by - alphadachs on 1/3/2016 1:21:40 PM
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^ CJ is really something else. Might have to revisit HUSBAND. For me, Affairs of Janice could classify as another rough one that is nevertheless rendered super watchable thanks to her beauty and magnetic performance.
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Posted - Jan 3 2016 : 3:01PM
Anyone But My Husband is a very enjoyable film, I had just watched it a few days back and am in the process of reviewing the disc. I wouldn't consider it one of the most hardcore films from the 70s though.
I hope that the films that are available on ExploitationTV get released on physical media.
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Posted - Jan 4 2016 : 1:26AM
Agreed with all about C.J. Loved her in Barbara Broadcast, as well.
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AFFAIRS OF JANICE is the best film Zeb Colt made I think. The climatic scene was pretty horrifying.
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Water Power from the mid seventies by Shaun Costello is pretty bleak but good hard fun. Stars my all time favourite Marlene Willoughby and the fantastic Crystal Sync. It's not like many ofvthe others mentioned so far but worth checking out
Pretty much all of Lasse Braun's stuff is very pervy and hard. Worth checking all his stuff out
Edited by - zyathon on 2/13/2016 10:53:35 AM
Ben Mockridge
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Posted - Feb 16 2016 : 8:23AM
Blacksix recently refered to Zeb Colt's Unwilling Lovers in the "Is today's porn what we really want?" topic citing its "combo of murder, necrophilia and sex with the mentally disabled". I was intrigued enough to watch it. Overlooking the obvious forgiveable deficiencies in image quality and acting, for me it didnt deliver as i had hoped in terms of being sickeningly horrifying. Basically a mentally retarded guy goes round killing men and women in a variety of sexual contexts. He has no conception that what he is doing is wrong and the girl that falls over when he is chasing her and he then has sex with her and it transpires she is dead that is only inadvertent necrophilia rather than abject necropjilia. Similarly i found the the mental disablement aspect ungratifying - youve got a mentally disbled guy behaving quite unwittingly so there is no great psychological conviction to the murders or the sex. I guess i was expecting it to be more like a mentally ill guy going sex psycho on a bunch of chicks rather than a mentally disabled guy just acting without cognition of his behaviour.
Or i thought it might be that the lead male performer might be mentally normal and the victims were mentally disabled.
The one scene i liked was when the gardner cajoled the mentally disabled guy to join him with his girlfreind - that felt far more authentic than all the simpleton killing people while sucking on a sweetbar stuff.
Just my 2 cents and thanks to blacksix and everyone who suggests titles.
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Yeah I don't think anyone is going to mistake Unwilling Lovers for a masterpiece anytime soon. Colt made better and nastier films but the content of UL is probably the most extreme, even if the execution is severely lacking. My copy has a sudden jumpcut that suggests a scene of sex with supposedly dead bodies was cut.
In a way the general incompetence of the film is a blessing because if it was competently shot it would be close to unwatchable. As it stands it is almost charming.
In terms of nastiness I would rate Forced Entry, Sex Wish, Waterpower and Femmes De Sade as tops. They all deal with the sex maniac on the loose storyline.
For films that deal with the highly charged question of sexuality for the mentally disabled or 'simple,' Nothing to Hide has a classic, impressively touching scene between Pacheco and Tigr performing as simple people. It could have been a disaster but is one of my favourite sex scenes in feature porn.
In contrast One Page of Love with the supercute Gena Lee and Nancy Hoffman deals overtly with the darker issue of the sexual exploitation of a simple woman. It is a certainly interesting film and ends on quite a creepy note. The director Peter Balakoff shot several underrated and surpringly thoughtful xxx melodramas.
Edited by - BlackSix on 2/16/2016 4:31:27 PM
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I watched Femmes de Sade and while it was not what i wanted in terms of mentally ill sadism it was very high quality and maybe kinky enough for some people.
The stand out moment for me was when the 7ft "maniac" was getting a blow job off a hooker and restlessly telling her how to do it and becoming so disatisfied with her efforts he pushed her out the way and started sucking his own cock - genuine laugh out loud moment and the hooker was laughing as well, continued to be funny as well with them both sucking his cock together right up until he jizzed - could have done without the spermy kissing but genuinely quite amazingly bizzare scene.
 
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It's one for the ages. De Renzy's films from the 70s continue to blow minds even after decades of 'extreme hardcore.'



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