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Cloudburst
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Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 2:34AM
What motivates the really prolific male performers to churn out hundreds of scenes every year? Is it the money or the sex? The reason I'm asking is because doing some research I discovered that guys usually earn $300 - $600 on average per scene (please correct me if I'm wrong on that). I also did research to see how long an average porn scene takes to shoot and it seems like they typically take around 4-5 hours on average (that includes EVERYTHING - from the time of arrival on set until the time they leave, not just the video and photo; again correct me if I'm incorrect). So if you do the simple math using $400 for a 4 hour scene, a guy earns around $100 an hour to bang a hot chick. Not too bad compared to the average working guy, if anything much better than a typical middle-class income.
So here's my question (especially to people who work in the industry): are there male performers who's main motivation (or sole motivation) to do lots of scenes is the money and not the sex?
Another thing I always found odd is that you'll have a certain "top level" of performer (this includes people like Ferrara, Deen, Everhard, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, Mark Davis, Mr Pete, Sean Michaels, etc.) who appear in about 300-350 scenes per year if you do the math (so basically one scene every day). Then there is a "second-tier" performer (the majority of guys who work in porn) who peforms in lots of scenes but not tons of scenes (on average in the range of 150-200 scenes per year). So what is the difference between these two "tiers" because as a long-time viewer of porn I notice no difference in performance when they are in a scene.
On a related topic: what exactly determines the pay rate that male performers earn? As I mentioned earlier the so-called "top performers" do just as good a job performing as the second-tier guys IMO (after all what straight male is paying that much attention to the guy anyway) so why do they earn more? What factors go into a producer/director saying "I'm going to pay you a few hundred dollars more per scene than this other guy"?

Edited by - Cloudburst on Apr 19 2014

Cloudburst
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Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 9:21PM
NOBODY here has any info or thoughts on this???
JB_X
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Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 9:35PM
You've already made a very similar thread. Several people responded.
Cloudburst
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Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 10:24PM
That thread while related to this question, if you read it in full, the actual question I'm asking is distinct from this one.
I put a lot of time into posting this and I think it's worthy of inquiry and response from other people on this forum especially since it is a common theme in the adult film industry.

Edited by - Cloudburst on 4/18/2014 10:28:14 PM

whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Apr 19 2014 : 4:09AM
I'm not going to respond to everything, but the main difference between the "A tier" and "B tier" performers are two things. How well the girls do (or don't) respond to them, and how well their scenes sell to a general audience. The "A tier" can get more money per scene (and more scenes) because girls love working with them to the point where they will request them, and their scenes sell well enough to make it worth the added money it may cost to shoot them. And that's even if, on a "technical" level, the performers are about the same.
 
Dragon Sign
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Posted - Apr 19 2014 : 5:19AM
Who talked about motivation? Are they up for a degree? An exam? They are not going to some war, they sure ain't. Did things stop being adictive these days?
Quorrl
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Posted - Apr 19 2014 : 3:59PM

This is what director Jacky St. James answered on her Tumblr when she was asked "Do the "bankable actors" like James Deen, Manuel Ferrara, Lex Steele, and Dane Cross get to command a higher rate of pay for scenes than lesser known performers?":
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"James Deen and Manuel Ferrara can and do demand a higher amount of money - as they should. They are two of the most acclaimed performers in the business. They always deliver top notch scenes. They are worth the cost. Typically, the payment tier for male performers is based on versatility, ability, and overall time worked in the business. Newer performers make less money. Stronger, more established male performers make more."
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Jacky St. James - Regarding male talent
CharityBangs
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Posted - Apr 19 2014 : 8:28PM
The top tier performers get almost twice that, in some cases $1200 per scene. The motivation is a combination of $$$ and libido. I know a couple "A" level performers that hit up girls for "content trades" quite regularly, not even really for the content but just to get laid. And almost every "B" level actor does it. Some even shoot normally paid scenes for free just to get laid... porno dan rarely pays his male talent but every night he's never short of volunteers. Not saying this is a bad thing... I've done many content trades that will prob never be released cause the person requesting it was a hottie or i was simply horny.
Cloudburst
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Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 3:28AM
I'm confused, Charity are these "content trades" filmed or just two people having sex off-screen? Also how often do guys perform in scenes for free? I've always thought about that as a way for a guy to work in many more scenes. I know if I worked in the industry I probably would "work" for free all the time, and then gain an income from a second part-time job.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 11:20AM
^
From what I know, a content trade is when two or more performers film a scene together and don't pay each other for it, with the agreement being that both people can use the footage how they want. So say, for example Siri did a b/g scene with James Deen. Neither would pay each other for the scene, but Siri would put it on her site, and James would put it on his.
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