So sayeth Tritone in the piracy-loving forum: "Not a fan of depositfiles at all. Rapidshare is reliable. Get a premium account and you'll experience fast, hassle-free downloading." What was that you said about "supporting"...how exactly is downloading studios product via Rapidshare supporting anyone? "You know what would have been great. If this girl had big, natural tits. Then all the white guys who are constantly telling us to "get over" dodgers will get a taste of their own medicine: A fine white girl THEY WANT, but never see in the configuration they want." Yeah, stick it to the white man! "Well, certain blacks may tease them about not being "black enough", but when the going gets tough, we will never turn a mixed person completely away. Whereas whites and others would have no problem kicking them to the curb if they even had a drop of blackness." Who's the racist one again? "I'm sure others will appreciate your uploads, but I am miffed at this woman because she won't perform with black men. It sours me when watching her other scenes." Is this how any 'self-respecting' black man acts? Encourage copyright infringement? You're a real role model. "Honestly, if you want no hassles and reliable performance, get a RapidShare premium account." Tritone says, Support studios...by being a cheapskate and downloading it for free! "Here are the rapidshare links to hi-res picture sets from that ever so famous site." Why here's Tritone sharing Rapidshare links to a company's content. Is that how a self-respecting black person acts? So exactly who are you to tell any studio what to do? When you become a PAYING customer, studios will give 2 shits what you think about ANYTHING. Until then...go download yer porn and be a cheap freeloader and STFU.
lol..Nate doesnt stop, i saw richard mann even call yall racist and sayiing yall are shady. Now he doesnt have a reason to lie does he? Now hear yall go with "Whitezilla Is Bigger Than A Nigga" even when you stop using brothas, you still use brothas to save your company. Marcus, i agree back in the day you had some hot girls, but now most girl doing interracial are below average and it seems there are more dodgers then ever. Good job on jolie, but nothing to feel special. I hope she does scenes with the more hardcore brothas like richard mann, ice cold, madingo, west pipes. I dont think she want it with a hardocre black man. The girls who dodge for years always go for the usual set of black guys. How do you always get chose by these girls who barley will do scenes with black men? You know like lela star. I heard you beg a lot behind the scenes, i hope not but thats the only reason it could be. Edited by - sauce on 7/28/2009 1:41:59 AM
Yeah, nevermind that he also get a ton of girls new to the biz. Charlotte Vale, Stevie Hart. Or that he's the person to call to shoot a girl first IR scene, like Jenna Haze, Riley Mason and Janine.
Yeah, they called him on his blatant hypocrisy and outright racism over on XPT some time ago. There's even a whole thread devoted to him called 'Fuck You Tritone'. He's a popular guy...
I believe Monique Alexander personally requested Mr. Marcus for her first IR in Cry Wolf. Whether or not that's true, I've always got the impression he's popular with the first timers.
Please explain what "hardcore black man" means and why Mr. Marcus doesn't qualify (given that he's black and performs in hard core).
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Thats why i said "MOST" girls are below average, not all. You clearly dont pay attention to all these new girls coming in and wont do IR. Andi anderson isnt good looking to ME. Most girls you guys name have been around for some years. I want more new chicks, not the same chicks all the time. Maybe i should say TO ME most girls doing interracial now are below average. I like amilia riley, Kacey Jordan, kitty bella, i want me some nicole grey, Lindy Lane Allyssa Hall jessica lynn kagney linn carter or those chicks at "metrotalentmanagement" wow ...i dont pick these chicks on purpose, i just click on the default of the girls i find most attractive. We have different taste i guess. New girls that i like are mia lina and hands down the hottest new girl the last 2 years to do interracial was..Juelz Ventura. I was amazed because hotter girls like her dont do interracial. She went so fast. But Esperanza Gomez is the hottest right now! Oh Bob, as for marcus i just think hes a weak performer just like luvinIt912 thought. You get banned for expressing your opinion though like he did. Also it has nothing to do with mr.marcus looks. I betcha justin long/brian pumper would beat marcus out to most girls in this world in the looks department but they dont seem 2 get these extra girls. Looks dont matter to these women. They do porn. Where did ice cold go? He cant get work cuz jules jordan, van styles, Exquisite/midas, prefer using all the weak black performers. Ice richard and pipes should be getting all the work..not marcus sean and rico. Thats just me though.
You still haven't answered by questions, Sauce: What does "hardcore black man" mean? Or, to put it another way, what makes a black man not "hardcore"? And why might a girl want to fuck a "regular" black man -- but not a "hardcore" black man? What does the term "strong performer" mean to you? What makes Mr. Marcus a "weak performer"? ---------------- I'd appreciate it if you would answer these questions simply and directly rather than veering off in other directions.
Im one that believes that Ice Cold definitely deserves more work. Him and Richard Mann. Those two, and Prince Y. are the best right now. Not a fan of Wesley tho. I think Sean Michaels is still a solid performer. What I think sauce means by "hardcore black man" is that they aren't performers who just seem to "make love" all the time. Men that will actually drill, and fuck a girl hard. I also think he's saying that they might not wanna work with a "hardcore black man" because they'll be pushed beyond their limits. Edited by - xayhoundb on 7/31/2009 2:26:54 PM
Actually, I do pay attention, and have come to a different conclusion. For Mr. Marcus, I say keep living the dream. Edited by - The DMan on 7/31/2009 4:35:15 PM
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Also from tritone, on the same "piracy" board:
I have supported porn (not just IR stuff) with my dollars for many, many years. Way before the popularity of the 'net and plenty of years since then. I don't feel guilty one bit about getting a few "freebies" now and then. I always buy the best stuff on DVD, because I will not accept any lower quality.
Mr. Marcus, you do good work -- could you answer this question: I've seen a number of awesome scenes (many including you) where the guy shoots an impressive load early, and rather than letting him get back to fucking her with the load still on her, they obviously clean it up completely, redo her makeup, and essentially start over. To me it really adds to the authenticity of the scene when the girl is too good for him to hold it, and then we see her getting fucked with the cum still wet on her face, tits, or ass.
I'm a fan of Mr. Marcus. I like the way he relates to the girls and the girls clearly like working with him. For anyone to say that he's on the short list for IR scenes because he's not "hardcore" -- whatever the fuck that means -- is assinine. If a "hardcore" black guy is not getting as many opportunities to fuck desirable women as a "regular" black guy is, the "hardcore" guy better rethink his game. It's no different from white male performers -- a guy like Michael Stefano is on the short list because he relates well to women and makes them feel comfortable and sexy. Tony T -- a hardcore white guy, I suppose -- is not on the short list. Go figure. Keep on doing what you're doing, Marcus! -------------------- [typos] Edited by - bob on 8/2/2009 3:58:24 AM
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 7:59AM
I got no problem with MrM. He should seperate hisself from file pirating sites.
yeah respect to Mr Marcus. dude has done work. many scenes with many girls. given me much enjoyment but i agree that the Mr Marcus forum was pirate city. non stop thiefing, all the time. and i mean ALL the time it surprised me that a known and respected industry guy would allow such things on his forum piracy like that? killing the industry for sure
Is the MMF the only forum online that has/had piracy? Are there examples of other forums that have successfully weeded it out? Currently there is a small group of postings on the site, I have a few spammers, but were working to keep them off the site.
You think I allow that shit? You think wrong. I'm not a babysitter, but I guess you need someone to blame. There's got to be a solution against the problem of piracy, do you have one? I'm down to hear it.
You DID allow that shit. I told you about the piracy months and months ago. Dude don't tell me you didn't notice that there were 100 new threads on YOUR forum everyday and 99 of them were pirating. Your "mod" apparently didn't do shit about it and then you come on here and PRAISE him like he really did something. Was Londo-cat really a cat, because I guarantee you any one of my cats would have made a better mod than him. There were threads on YOUR piracy forum that were 100 pages long of file sharing, all posted by the same exact users...how about your MOD actually bans that user? That's what you're supposed to do in a forum when you're the moderator. You want to praise your MOD and tell us how great he was and then when anyone points out how much of a total piracy haven your site was, you want to pass the buck. If you didn't allow the piracy then who did Marcus? If you're going to state that you don't allow piracy, you have to actually do something...it takes actions not just words.
Ummm...what forum do you think you're posting on right now? Do you see any piracy on AdultDVDTalk? Nope. That's because they have moderators who squash that mess before it ever gets started. There are really 2 types of forums for XXX. Forums like this one that are for fans to interact....and piracy forums. Your previous forum was in the latter. I know you posted on there from time to time, was it hard for you to find the threads that were NOT about pirating material, I know it was for me. The legit threads were buried under the 100s of filesharing threads every day. Marcus, your "new" forum that you're promoting on here has an entire section DEDICATED TO PIRACY. WTF man? Do you even know what piracy is? Let me explain for you...when your users rip/copy DVDs/scenes and upload them to filehosting sites and then share those links so that others don't have to pay for the movie, yet the guy who uploaded it gets paid by the filehosting site...that's called piracy my friend. Your new site is no different than the old one. Once again you're providing a haven for pirates to spread their links and cash in at the copyright owners expense. You are supporting stealing content from hard working copyright owners. Please tell me you just don't understand what piracy is, because if you know what it is and yet you still allow it to happen...I just don't see how you aren't black-balled from this industry. You're supporting the stealing of other people's hard work. You're like the guy who owns the warehouse where the stolen goods are sold out of. You know full well what's going on, but you simply don't care. I've just about given up on you ever showing any shred of ethics or integrity. Do the right thing man...or forever be known as a person that approves of stealing and theft. Maybe you should lobby for a new award for next years Urban X Awards - "Best Supporting Thief"...right now you're the frontrunner. Edited by - nateglass on 8/3/2009 1:26:30 PM
^ The man has a point. I used to be a member of the old MMF, and I rarely posted. Every thread would start being legit, based on a question.. then bam, someone links a scene that was uploaded on a file sharing website. I didn't even think the site was modded.
Ya know nice job with the rant, but the truth is I am not on the forum 24/7. I did not have the ability to moderate the forum, because I was and still am a busy dude. My conversations with Londo were limited, to how can we improve the site, how can the site become profitable, because he spent a lot of his time and money keeping it up. How do I know your not the cat posting all the links to all the piracy sites??? Your quick to jump on my dick and start shit. Call me then, meet with me, I've been in the same place for the past 9 years. I'm easy to find and approach. I started the board to talk about SEX and PORN, that's it!!! All this other shit, is new to me, you think of me as some thief??? Fuck you, I'm far from it. Punk ass, I give a fuck about this business and have been way before you found your ass in it. So if you aint part of the solution, you are part of the PROBLEM. Come see me.
just add more moderators and tell the admin of the board to ban all the piracy links. If anything do it like freeones that just allow posts to free clips/pics online (not talking about the tube sites, just sites with pics and short minute clips)
Marcus: There's an entire section of your new forum called "The Video Vault" with a subheading of "Please post all your interracial movies here!" What the fuck do you call that if not an invitation to pirates? What are you expecting Lexington Steele to give away his new movie on there for free? I'm willing to bet there isn't a single movie on there that the poster owns the copyrights on. Just a quick glance at one thread and I can download the latest IR joints from Jules Jordan, Exquisite, Lex Steele, Brazzers, Evasive Angles, Naughty America, Elegant Angel, West Coast Proudctions, Smash, Vivid and Justin Slayer for free, without so much as a penny going to the studios that worked hard and produced those movies. That's called piracy my friend, and that's happening on your forum that you promote. You can pass the buck all you want, but everyone knows that you could tell your Mods to ban users who upload shit that they don't own the copyrights for. You guys went through the trouble to put up the "rules" for uploading, but you conveniently left off anything about not uploading movies you don't own the copyrights for. I wonder why that is? You wanna promote your forum and yourself and then when anyone calls you out on your bullshit you get mad and try and pass the buck with this lame ass "well I'm not on there 24/7"....well how much are you on there because it would take me less than 5 minutes to tell a mod "kill the video vault section, put no uploading of copyrighted material in the rules, and ban any poster that posts shit they don't own the copyrights for". I'm sure you got 5 minutes in your hectic week. Maybe you can squeeze that in? I bust your chops because I told you like a year ago that your other forum was nothing but a piracy forum. You passed the buck then, and you're still doing it today. Nothing has changed at all. You can huff and puff and tell us all how you're not supporting piracy, but the proof speaks for itself and you're the one that came on here promoting your forum in the first place. Your forum is a great place for people to go to get the latest IR porn without any compensation whatsoever for the people that worked hard to produce it. Are you proud of that? How can you put your name on that? Feel free to email me at nate@hushinc.com, I'll give ya my cell phone number and I'll tell ya where I'm at right now. I'm currently in Charlotte, NC, so maybe that's a little out of your way, but I'm sure we'll both be in Vegas in January. I'd love the opportunity to sit down with you and explain how you're providing a safe haven for piracy thieves. I don't think you fully realize what's going on in your forum. Those "users" who upload movies aren't doing it out of some act of kindness, those guys are getting PAID to rip off studios. And here you are promoting it.
What site are you talking about??? I am promoting www.mrmarcus.com/forum go and check it asshole. There is no 'video vault'. Your talking about the ir.tube.net site and that site I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH. Do you hear me??? So yeah I will email cause I would love nothing better than to set you straight.
damn shit is getting real. Mr Marcus like i said, respect to you as a performer. your work & longevity in the industry speaks for itself. i am not going to attack your integrity like nate but you should realize...you CAN have an adult industry forum WITHOUT piracy. look at this site, Adult DVD Talk. look at sites like the Naughty America forums, Jenna Haze's official forum, Belladonna's forum. even the pic forums like FreeOnes and Peachy Forum. they have no piracy because their mods don't allow it it is not some impossible thing. you just need RESPONSIBLE mods who enforce the rules "file sharing" is piracy, that is all there is to it. i understand you do not have the time or knowledge to take care of that yourself but you should get people in place who DO know Jenna Haze probably doesn't know a lot about piracy, but her webmaster knows nate is pissed, but he has a right to be. because probably Hush Hush shit is getting pirated on your site as we speak. that's money out his pocket like i said, the internet piracy is killing the industry
okay i just looked at the new Mr Marcus forum and Mr Marcus is right, there is no "video vault" that IR-Tube.net site advertises itself as "Formerly known as the Mr. Marcus Forum" probably all the pirates from the old site went there that is probably where this confusion is coming from. nate has a right to be pissed about the old site, but it seems Mr Marcus has done the right thing with the new one
I fucked up. I read Marcus' first post referencing the irtube.net site and didn't read all the way down to where he had corrected the address. There is no piracy on the new MrMarcus.com/forum, in fact it's a great forum with an emphasis on black on black and IR porn. I look forward to contributing to it. I gave Marcus my number and true to his word he called me and after my 1000 apologies, we laughed about some stuff and had a great conversation. Now I have MrMarcus' cell phone number and I will promptly brag to all my female friends and show them his name in my iPhone address book. :) I'm a dumbass for not reading the entire thread before ripping into Marcus. My frustration lies not with Marcus himself but with the piracy sites. You guys can feel free to rip me for jumping on Marcus without reading the entire thread. I publicly apologize to Marcus and you guys for making this thread way more dramatic than it should have been. I gotta lay off the caffeine.
Goddamn, shit got real for a second, lol. As someone that was on MMF before the file sharing blew up, I just want to say i miss that place. It was really the only place where you could talk about IR porn and not have shit get started.XPT,Freeones and even this place aren't really friendly to IR talk. At one point today there was 3 IR themed thread and all of them had a negative vibe to them. One person will say the wrong thing and the same old tired argument from both sides will start up. But back in the day MMF was full of good talk. I liked the fact that the industry didn't really goto the forum. It meant you could talk about stuff with kid gloves. Of course there were some dip shits but people just dealt with them. Once the file sharing blew up, people started leaving the forum and the conversation died. The dip shits took over and the site died. I still stuck around because it the only it was only IR porn related forum that didn't have the cuckold angle.So, I'm just saying it wasn't always what it became.
Got to get it back to the discussions. It's gonna take some work and support. I'll work on it...got suggestions send me an email: request@mrmarcus.com Appreciated.
^^^ Precisely my thoughts too. I signed up at the old MMF merely for the IR porn conversation I couldn't find elsewhere on the net. Majority of genuine members signed up for the same reason. Then filesharing came along. I have and continue to buy my porn DVDs brand new from the producers and legit vendors and never once downloaded any of that pirated stuff. The difference in quality between the two is 1000-fold. Londo-Cat wanted to increase traffic at his site and allowed some old IR movies to be posted but he sure as hell clamped down on new movies whenever he could or when flagged by IR producers like HushHushNate, Billy Watson and Midas. For some reason, NateGlass wouldn't acknowlwdge this and give Londo-Cat some credit.I wonder how much success NateGlass has had removing HushHush material from the 1000s of other filesharing sites on the net. Mr Marcus on the other hand had absolutely no control or input into the way things were run over there despite the forum bearing his name. The ultimate demise of MMF can be put down to Londo-Cat's absence on the forum 99% of the time and the sheer incompetence of his senile moderator Thomas who got a kick out of the flamewars and cheered it on from the mods chair!! To Mr Marcus, you are a legend so keep doin your thing. I'll sign up on your new forum soon. Cheers!! Edited by - Pentasa on 8/5/2009 10:01:56 PM
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Posted - Aug 8 2009 : 7:56PM
If that's the case, you ought to get whoever owns it to take your name off the homepage. It's not like you sold them your name, like stupid Luke Ford did.