Seems very selfish and stupid hes lucky he didnt get sentenced for more than that....god forbid if he had HIV. what a scumbag.
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| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 |  Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 9:32PMLOS ANGELES — The veteran porn actor known as Mr. Marcus was sentenced Tuesday to 30 days in jail after pleading no contest to knowingly exposing his co-stars to syphilis. The 42-year-old actor, whose real name is Jesse Spencer, was also ordered to perform 15 days of community service and serve three years on probation. His infection was discovered in July 2012 during a routine industry screening before he was to begin making a film. He immediately received a penicillin shot, but when he was rescreened 11 days later he still showed signs of syphilis. Authorities say he altered the results of that second test and returned to work the following day. Spencer is jailed on $200,000 bail in an unrelated drunken driving case. An email was sent to his management company seeking comment. Spencer has said previously he thought he was no longer infectious when he returned to work. Prosecutors said he took part in two adult movie shoots within a week of failing the second test. Two actresses who worked with him contacted police after a producer discovered the altered test result. Neither woman contracted syphilis, the city attorney's office said. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, syphilis is caused by a bacterium and is transmitted through direct contact with syphilis sores, which mainly occur on the external genitals, vagina, anus or in the rectum. A single shot of penicillin can cure a person who has had syphilis for less than a year, according to the CDC. Additional doses are necessary for people who have had the STD for a longer period. Spencer was one of nearly a dozen porn actors who tested positive during a syphilis outbreak last summer that led industry officials to briefly call for a moratorium on filming. In November, Los Angeles County voters approved a ballot initiative requiring porn actors use condoms for most film shoots. The industry has sued to overturn the law, arguing that its own testing guidelines for sexually transmitted diseases are sufficient. Topic Moved by - killbillvol69 on Jun 5 2013 [Link] |
| V Venom 80 Deactivated User 49 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 4:43AM Seems very selfish and stupid hes lucky he didnt get sentenced for more than that....god forbid if he had HIV. what a scumbag. [Link] |
| ken montgomery Deactivated User 4 Posts 5/13 | Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 7:35PM [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 3:08PM the forging alone is enough to blame him for me, it is not up to him to take medical decisions risking the health of someone else. Edited by - LCF on 6/7/2013 3:09:32 PM [Link] |
| BigTrotter Member 138 Posts 1/13 | Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 7:07PM [Link] |
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| pat362 Senior Member 10081 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 9:10PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 11:59PM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10081 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 8 2013 : 10:13AM 1-It wasn't just one photo but a slew of them. 2-I've never had sores(that's more than one) on my dick but if I had multiple ones then I might seek the advice of a doctor to make sure than nothing is wrong. This is even more necessary for someone who uses his dick in his line of work. 3-He admitted to seeing a doctor to treat a syphilis infection he knew he had and he says that the doctor told him that he could work ten days after the first treatment. Did we ever hear from the doctor to know if that is true? 4-The CDC is pretty clear on the subject and there is no actual time line in which a person is healed from the infection. Subsequent testing is necessary to confirm that the infection is gone. 5-He faked a test he knew he had not passed to keep working and there's nothing you or anyone else can say that will justify that. 6-Maybe the reason why he didn't fight the charges is because the prosecutor had an open and shot case against him and he took a plea deal instead of going to trial. 7-I agree with you that this guy probably has little if any money but that is not a reason for doing what he did and what exactly has he done with all the money he has made over the last 20 or so years? IAFD list him at having done nearly 1700 movies. That's a lot of porn. I suspect that you and I will not agree on this and if that's the only thing we don't agree on then that's not bad. I think we can at least agree on that he doctored his test that could have put the health of others at risk all the time knowing that this was illegal. [Link] |
| Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01 | Posted - Jun 8 2013 : 11:55AM Edited by - Asmodeus on 6/8/2013 12:00:31 PM [Link] |
| scottc1992 Member 15 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jun 9 2013 : 6:31AM [Link] |
| ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User 837 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jun 9 2013 : 4:24PM [Link] |
| Seijuro Senior Member 1389 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jun 9 2013 : 11:24PM And I can never forgive him for that. Mr. Marcus worked all the time and waiting for a clean test would not have hurt him financially, but all he considered was $$$ and not the health of his fellow performers. Until the test comes clean, you are not clear no matter what you think. A porn legend has now become a pariah and rightfully so. His actions helped push the condom law and he gave girls one more excuse to not do IR. [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jun 10 2013 : 12:52AM [Link] |
| Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Jun 13 2013 : 8:18PM Just gotta throw in, that I love when male performers boast about their minimal infections. I want to hear the females speak. Only a few do and their stories involve multiple infections - And I"m not talk Shelly Lubben zombies, but females like Belladonna and Kimberly Kane. It's just gross really. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10081 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 9:51PM You know what might reduce the risk for many performers? A little invention called the condom. [Link] |
| Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Jun 15 2013 : 8:42AM [Link] |
| Dubious_Leftovers Senior Member And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me... 1423 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Jun 15 2013 : 7:43PM [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10081 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Jun 15 2013 : 9:13PM then we wouldn't be talking about these girls. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 4:29AM Also a problem is the ignorance of most performers, they cannot recognize a risky dick even if it bites. Agents hiring performers even when it was known risky and fining those who refused to work is another part of the problem stopping tests and giving penicillin shots to everyone instead, reduced the number of known positives not the infection. Mr Marcus was stopped supposedly at the second stage of the infection (his dick showed signs of that in the infamous flick with Ms Lavey) the most infective , yet he didn't infected anybody after he was diagnosed, maybe he was already at the end of it and developing its third stage which is NOT infective but would take years to recover for what is known there was one performer only who noticed something was wrong and refused to take him at the end of May , before he was tested , it was Chastity Lynn (she already worked with him twice before though) Edited by - LCF on 6/16/2013 4:34:38 AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 1:43PM Why would any pornstar have sex with a performer with a visible lesion on their penis? Why would any director or studio permit a performer with a visible lesion on their penis to perform? Seriously, I don't care what a performer's test -- faked or not -- says. As far as anyone could possibly know, the lesion on the penis could easily have manifested after whatever test was performed and presented -- faked test or not. Aside from the obvious health concerns, doesn't the "eewww" factor of having a lesion on a performer's penis count for anything? Anybody and everybody that was involved in this fiasco -- directors, studios, fellow performers and Mr. Marcus, himself -- need their collective heads examined. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 1:52PM especially considering they have seen plenty of dicks and multiple times one particular dick they should have seen something was wrong , is it really possible that Chastity Lynn alone was able to notice? [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 2:21AM But even the civil case against him seemed pretty pretty thin. Nothing I've read suggests that he intended to expose performers to syphilis. So I would agree that his no contest plea was based either on lack of money or just indifference on his part. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 11:37AM To forge a positive test to an highly infective STD so that it looked like a negative and thus have unprotected intercourses with one or more professional sexual workers who also will have unprotected intercourses with multiple partners is a little bit more than just indifference [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 1:45PM [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 2:21PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 3:26PM He had a positive test for syphilis one of the nastiest and infective STDs around , he FORGED that test to get work and have sex with some performers he was perfectly aware will have will have sex with other performers who will have sex with other performers and so on. He forged his test willingly , used it twice willingly, he knew he was still positive. I may concede he thought he was clear , but then again he should have tested with a Treponemal test since Syphilis will result positive FOR LIFE a Treponemal test is a test who shows if there is a syphilis infection running or it has been in the past but not currently Apparently he didn't this test so he cannot be sure he was clear , and he did this test then he was positive for sure [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 3:39PM [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 5:39PM He should have got 3 years for wearing that baseball hat.[Link] |
| ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User 837 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 5:53PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 6:18PM [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 7:08PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 8:34PM He knew he had been treated... He knew he failed a subsequent test... He deliberately forged a false test to show he was clean... All the evidence shows that, whether or not he thought he was, or should have been, "clear" -- and the test said he wasn't -- he then went ahead and exposed others. He did not know he was "clear." He should have waited until it was determined to a certainty that he was clean and no longer a risk to others. Doesn't seem like a "tough sell" to me, at all. I don't believe Marcus was being malicious. But, he made some stupid and selfish decisions, and is paying an appropriate penalty. (Plus, it's doubtful he'll be performing again anytime soon, if ever.) Just consider if he had infected others and it spread through the American talent pool! [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 9:25PM You can say that you're satisfied that the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt that, at the time he worked with his forged test, he knew he still had syphilis. That's fine, but I disagree. [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 9:37PM [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 9:51PM [Link] |
| InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 10:49PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 18 2013 : 9:23AM Edited by - LCF on 6/18/2013 9:25:01 AM [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 19 2013 : 4:06AM The only point I was trying to make is that the evidence suggests that, in spite of his failed test, he didn't know that he had syphilis at the time he worked with the forged tests. Had he gone to trial, the prosecution would have had a high burden of proof to make its case that he actually knew he had syphilis at the time. Not whether he was negligent or reckless about it (yes and probably yes). I think there's too much reasonable doubt to convict, personally. That's all. That said, I wouldn't watch another scene involving Mr. Marcus, even if he was accepted back into the porn world. I think forging a test is an unpardonable sin in all circumstances, especially in light of the looming condom regulations. Carry on. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 19 2013 : 7:26AM ^ Let me get it straight, he had a test saying he was positive to an infection , meaning he was infected so he forged it because he didn't know he was infected? He's not a physician how can he decide to ignore a medical test and yet say he didn't know he was infected? the very action to forge a test positive to a highly infective disease to bypass a medical control is per se irresponsible enough to be condemned in my opinion. you just don't do it, it's too risky [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 19 2013 : 10:51PM The point that I was making above, and which JB_X was following up on, is simply that it appeared that there may have been some doubt that the state could prove at least two elements of the offense -- whether he actually had a communicable disease, given that the women he worked with apparently did not become infected, and whether he had the required state of mind -- "knowingly" -- given that on the one hand he had a positive test, but on the other hand he had been told by his doctor that he only had to sit out for ten days. He would not have needed to affirmatively prove his innocence if the case had gone to trial; he would only need to raise enough doubt to convince at least one juror that the state had not proved its case. But it's academic now, since he chose to enter a plea of "nolo contendre." [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jun 20 2013 : 5:03AM Didn't I meet him at Frank's place in Palm Springs? [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 20 2013 : 4:00PM Here it works the same way as in the USA , but ... let me put it in another way , if I have a gun whose owner says it's unloaded , and yet I see a bullet in it and then I cover the gun with a hand so that nobody can see the bullet , and then I shoot to someone , would you say there's isn't proof enough that I willingly put people in danger? Ok I aimed badly and nobody has been wounded but still... Would you say that since nobody has been wounded I can claim my complete ignorance of the consequences of a shoot because the owner of the gun said me it was unloaded. Is that so? This is the way I see this. Even if a doctor said him he'll be clean in ten days and yet after this time a test said he was not ,was he allowed to ignore the test? was he allowed to forge a medical test to bypass any control? Has him enough medical experience to know he could do this with no risk of harm? He knew beyond doubt he was positive, we don't even know whether he was still infective or not because he didn't the right test (I think so because if it was the right one and it said he was still infected then he was ), those working with him have been lucky and he has been stopped I don't think his will to continue to work even being positive forging his test on this purpose can be measured by the number of his victims. But you're right he chose not to dispute, it's academy now Edited by - LCF on 6/20/2013 4:12:31 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 20 2013 : 9:41PM By contrast, if there is video evidence in excruciatingly close-up detail of you doing everything which should result in the transmission of a disease to not just one, but two different women, and neither of them actually becomes infected, then there is substantial doubt about whether you actually exposed them to a communicable disease. Substantial doubt about whether the "gun" was actually loaded, in other words. Edited by - Harri Patel on 6/20/2013 9:42:11 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 21 2013 : 3:32PM He had a medical test with the word "positive" on it , the gun was loaded , he saw it thus he decided to hide the bullet forging his test, if he didn't see it and didn't know he was infected, why he forged his test? he might say I thought it wasn't an actual bullet, yet it was there and he had no notions to decide it was a fake positive. also symptoms of syphilis have a variety of changes during its evolution , might have no symptoms at one point , yet the disease is still running [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jun 21 2013 : 9:24PM I'm not saying this is true, I'm saying this is what he was saying in the interviews last summer. [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jun 21 2013 : 10:43PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jun 21 2013 : 10:57PM My post was just to address LCF's claim that Mr. Marcus wasn't sure he had a communicable disease. In Mr. Marcus's mind, it would seem, he knew for sure that he did not still have a communicable disease. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 22 2013 : 1:57AM with that I meant , he knew he resulted positive and cannot be certain he wasn't infective anymoreI actually said his tests will result positive for life , from now on the only test able to show his actual status would be a treponemal tests , more expensive but can show if your positivity depends on an active infection or an episode occurred earlier. His doctor might have said that , hell even I would have said that even without being a doctor, but I would have added he needed another kind of test. And I am pretty sure the doctor said that , or would surely have had he know he was a porn performer, if I recall well Mr Marcus said he retained this crucial information from his doctor. I cannot see how a doctor would have given clearance to a man in his profession without a treponemal test Anyway I think he was not completely aware of what he was really doing rather than a supreme asshole like Marc Wallice. Edited by - LCF on 6/22/2013 2:07:22 AM [Link] |
| JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12 | Posted - Jun 22 2013 : 2:03AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jun 22 2013 : 2:08AM I meant retaining he was a top porn performer with high sexual promiscuity from his doctor [Link] |
| MonAcleJ Member 28 Posts 10/08 | Posted - Jun 22 2013 : 5:02AM [Link] |
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