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skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 4:13AM
SHOVE THAT ASS IN MY FACE BABY!!!!!

No reason to be shy.

Cryocide
Member

19 Posts
8/05
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 5:30AM
Being into women's butts as far back as the 3rd grade, I can say that your ass is okay, but could definitely stand some firming and shaping to improve on its present state of mediocrity. You need to appeal to the masses, not simply the fetish whores.
loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 9:55AM
her sophie just saw the pictures od you and you're totally gorgeous , your ass is perfect as well as the other parts , and your eyes.. omg - you're beautiful. now i'll have to check some of your work - i really hope to see you more in gonzo hard g/g scenes which are my favorites.
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 10:47AM
I will stop using you as an example of butt shrinking Katja, you're right about the moving on part, that was my mistake and I apologize for that and I still enjoy your movies a lot, I think you're a fantastic intense performer and you're very beautiful BUT there seems to be a confusion about paying bills. It's us fans who pay your bills because if we fans would not buy movies then companies would not have the money to pay you so you could pay your bills. It's us fans who keep this business alive!

But enough off-topic stuff, I would rather talk about Sophie Dee. Loved your scene with Mandingo for Blacks and Blondes. Saw the scene yesterday. I already sent them an e-mail asking for more scenes with you Sophie.

 
Ryan Knox
Performer

170 Posts
5/05
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 3:34PM
Sophie Dee has a beautiful ass and a cute smile.
Her boobs are real and so much fun to squeeze.
She is always cheerful and fun to be around.
So there.
sophie dee
Member

160 Posts
9/05
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 4:25PM
ryan ur so funny
u goi psk 2nite???


ow and prob stupid qwestion but is there many people in uk on this??

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 4:47PM
Sophie, ignore Knox and his comments. More importantly: have you done any new movies recently?
sophie dee
Member

160 Posts
9/05
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 5:28PM
hi ive done a g/g with sophia cute little blonde i am looking to do more swn xxxx
sophie dee
Member

160 Posts
9/05
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 5:31PM
lol ryans funny , i just did one with lex steele and ow boy did ha hurt....i did a few 4 bizzare productions but unless u want to c guys take it dont think ud wana see that one.. ive only bee bk in la 2 weeks so am gona do some more scanes nxt week xxx
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 6:01PM
Yeah, that's a little too bizarre for my taste ;-)
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 10:39PM
Ramsey, maybe you would have liked me better before but hoe does it matter if nobody wanted to shoot me. Yes you, the fans, buy the movies but directors and porn companies write the check to me.
I have no problem with your opinion at all, I just wish you wouldn't use therms like "ruined" and stuff...
Patrick Riverside
Member

33 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 1:40AM
Katja-

Not to be a slobbering fanboi (but I will make an exception for you), you are stunning as always, and I see no difference in what your current body type is as compared to the way it was, you are hot either way. That butt is still a wonder of the world.

However, while checking back through some of your posts on this issue, I was sad that you took the comments of some on the internet that you were "fat" to heart. Now mind you, I'm betting those idiots couldn't get laid in a monkey whorehouse with a bag of bananas strapped to their ass. They are so insecure about themselves, they can see no other way to build up their ego but to bash perfectly amazing women who they'd never have a shot with by calling them fat and ugly or saying they have no boobs, need a nose job, lip injections, etc. American culture is so obsessed with the idea that "the camera adds ten pounds" that is why we see many Hollywood starlets starving themselves.

I'm not implying your fitness drive was spurred on totally by those comments, but the fact that you mentioned it bugs me because it was at least in the back of your mind. Good rule of thumb as told to me by the biggest queen I know.....if a man feels the need to call a woman fat, he's probably gay.

Love ya....PR


BSD
Senior Member

San Diego, CA
2508 Posts
11/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 6:00AM
PATRICK -

In the two or so years that Katja has been in here talking to us, her body has been the subject of so much conversation that I'm sure she's sick of it by now. And she probably was long before that. She has told us how much different the fan reaction was for her in America as opposed to her native Germany, and I'm sure hers is probably the most talked about butt on the planet.

But one thing she has been very clear about, is that as a professional and a unique person, she knows that her natural look may not appeal to all tastes, and she certainly can't try and please everyone. I really don't think she gets too worked up by negative fan comments towards her for this very reason. She is who she is, and many, like us, are gonna love her, and others won't.

But she also explained to us that where it really mattered to her, was when producers, directors, casting agents and others who have a direct effect on her career and ability to earn a living, started giving her a negative vibe. That's when she decided to do what any professional would, and take action to make herself more marketable and appealing to those who would employ her.

If I understood her correctly, I think that that was the impetus for her to make the changes she felt she needed to make, and not people spouting hate on the internet.

BSD

picman
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Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 7:07AM
I don't understand why Katja can't win here. First she gets shit for being too fat, then has to defend herself for doing the sane and healthy change of lifestyle and diet. She's not anorexic and looks great. I haven't checked out her butt with calipers but it still looks like the eighth wonder of the world. I would venture to guess that Katja feels better as well.
 
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 11:33AM
I don't think we should single out Katja anymore, I think this thread should be about girls losing weight in general and what we don't like about it.

It's pretty obvious BSD and I don't just like big butts, we are actually big butt connoisseurs . I have no idea why the adult-industry is against girls with big butts eventhough I can't believe it's all companies, I mean Evasive Angles, West Coast Productions and Justin Slayer Productions have plenty of big butt series so that's not the problem, I think the problem would be feature/couples appeal companies, companies like Vivid, Wicked and Digital Playground for example. I mean look at their contract girls, they only sign girls who can Hula Hoop through a Cheerio. And of course there's Max Hardcore who also only wants to shoot ultra-skinny girls but for other reasons.

I have to admit also that I would be less interested in my favorite big butt girls if they wouldn't have a big butt because it's the butt that makes them special, take that away and you have just a regular pornstar. I mean the reason why I buy almost all Flower Tucci movies for example is simply because she has an awesome butt combined with a beautiful face but at this point I can say without a doubt I wouldn't buy anymore movies with her if she will lose that big butt because I'm already suffering from the Debi Diamond tragedy.

Patrick Riverside
Member

33 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 12:15PM
I only brought it up because she mentioned it in a previous post back about six months ago I came across when I was trying to figure out where this debate stemmed from. I think she actually used the term that she was "sad".
Then let me be the first to say shame on them. Do they not pay attention? Are they so out of touch that they don't realize Katja is one of the most talked about and watched performers in this industry regardless of her body type? For god's sake, it would be like the Mariners telling Ichiro before they signed him "Yeah, you aren't a bad player but that swing of yours has got to go."
Different pile, same smell. If some of the so-called "movers and shakers" of the industry have that much power, then they should go on a diet to remove the extra pounds from their ass, mainly the head they have wedged up there. Girls who have the capital need to start getting up from the chair when these idiotic "suggestions" are made, politely saying "Thank you" and heading for the door. Those turds will be screaming "Wait.....NO!!! COME BACK!!!" before they hit the parking lot.

Again, I'm not knocking Katja in any way here for her decisions. She's happy, healthy and god bless her. But if producers, directors and casting agents have no better eye for talent than some guy hiding in his mother's basement, then why do they have their jobs?

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 12:22PM
At this point I'm actually wondering if agents don't have anything to do with forced weight lost. I mean how do we know people like Spiegler, Senter and South don't tell their models they should lose weight otherwise they won't get enough work.
BSD
Senior Member

San Diego, CA
2508 Posts
11/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 1:07PM
Friends -

Look guys, negative female self-image, re-inforced by cultural stereotypes didn't start with porn, and I don't know that porn is any more cupable than other social institutions that comment on what is attractive in society.

The whole reason we're even having this discussion, AGAIN, is because of Sophie's opening post where she talks about how big her butt is, how much she hates it, and how she wants to get rid of it. A million of us could stand on our heads and tell her she's lovely until the cows come home, and it ain't gonna matter. We're never gonna get inside the head of a girl and convince her that what she perceives is an appearance negative or flaw, really isn't, if that's what she feels.

Most of us have had a wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter, or mother, who obsessed over some aspect of their body or appearance, no matter what we told them, and billions of dollars are made feeding into that insecurity and obsession. And for most women in Western society, the butt is the number one figure "flaw" that they obsess over. Almost from the time they are little. And even those of us that love them and their big butts, often feed into their discomfort when we start making a big deal about it. When we first notice it as girls start to mature, or when we objectify it in women. I know that I may be part of the problem, but I like what I like, and can't really change that. All of this serves to bring a particular attention on a specific aspect of their being that makes them self-conscious and uncomfortable. Even though it maybe genetic, or natural, or beautiful, (to me anyway, smile), it still makes most girls uneasy to be always identified by their butt. Or big tits, or whatever significant feature they possess. I'm no psychologist, but I think I've been around enough women to understand this.

Just judging from what we can see, I don't think that anyone would argue that Sophie is "unhealthy", or is anything other than a beautiful young woman. But, she still wants to change this particular physical aspect, in part because I don't think she wants to be defined by it.

As I said before, Katja has always seemed to get it, and seems to have always been comfortable with her body. (At least during the time that we've been exposed to her.) The fact that she's become a huge, world class porn star does speak to the notion that there are other standards of beauty being recognized, but even when a big star like her can lose potential work, enough times to where she decides to make personal changes to rectify the situation, still shows that she is still the exception to the rule.

Porn is still a zero sum game. What all of us on this thread like is still, in the overall scheme of things, a fetish or niche for porn, more than a signal of a cultural shift in beauty. I would suppose that by and large, agents, casting directors and movie producers want to make stuff that sells to the widest demographic, more than they want to make things that appeal to a certain segment of porn lovers.

No matter how much we yell and scream.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 10/26/2005 1:22:44 PM

Assanova
Member

balls deep
296 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 1:32PM
That cultural shift has already happened though. Companies are still reluctant to recognize it and are still pushing the look popularized in the fitness crazed eighties.

Twiggy set the trend in the late sixties of the beanpole chic that had no womanly curves. Her body type replaced that of the Marylyn Monroes and Sophia Lorens. It fit in well with the coke crazed seventies that followed. The work-out 80's begat the heroin chic of the nineties and the return to popularity of the supermodel- Kate Moss, Cindy Crawford, Linda Evengelista etc. But in the 2000's after 30 years of this look we're finely seeing curvier women take the spotlight. I see the catalyst for this being J-Lo. Who can disagree that her butt replaced Pamela Andersons fake boobs as the most famous body part. Look at how popular Monica Bellucci is. How many threads do you see started about big butts as opposed to fake boobs? The ratio must be 5 to 1.

I've been seeing less silicone in the movies I watch. It's not a big deal anymore to have big fake boobs. 10 years ago it was hard to find a natural pair in porn. Now there's an abundance. For almost 20 years Nina Hartly was the only true bubble butt girl in porn. Now they're popping out of the woodwork. How does anyone woman who thinks they need to lose weight to get work in porn ignore the popularity of Olivia O Lovely? Personally I don't find her face that appealling but I will watch her scenes just for that butt. Why was Tiffany Mynx able to make such a huge comeback at her age? (old for porn-another misconception) Sure it has alot to do with her ability as a performer but I don't think her new curves should be overlooked.

This is getting long. Have I made my case yet? To wrap it up take this into consideration-The fashion industry sets the standards in beauty. They are the ones who employ the emmaciated models. And THEY are all homosexuals!

Edited by - Assanova on 10/26/2005 2:22:45 PM

BSD
Senior Member

San Diego, CA
2508 Posts
11/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 2:05PM
ASSANOVA -

Good points.

Especially when one acknowledges the impact that the Jennifer Lopez', Beyonce's, Salma Hayak's, and women like that have had on popular standards of beauty in the past decade.

I would go even further and say that the melding of Black American and Latin\Hispanic culture into popular culture over the past generation, has gone even further in making biggger butts more palatable in overall Western cultural standards. Black and Latin culture has NEVER had a problem with big butts on women, and have in fact CELEBRATED it throughout their history. So when Black and Latin culture started showing up in more and more mainstream areas, videos, movies and t.v., etc., that aspect came along with it. Ain't no skinny sisters shakin' it in rap and hip-hop videos.

So while all this is good, and portends a more accepting view of all kinds of women, and different body types for women, that still doesn't always get into the heads of individual girls and women, who still are not happy with their body or look.

J-Lo and Beyonce aside, the pressure or desire to be thin, or look thinner, remains strong in most women. The diet and exercise industry ain't goin' away, and I'd argue that more people are into it for vanity than for health. I'd also argue that if you asked most women if they'd prefer to have a big shapely booty, (the kind that we all salivate over), or not, most would still say no.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 10/26/2005 2:06:12 PM

KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 2:10PM
You are right Ramsey, there are a lot of big butt movies out there but after a little bit I've done them all and everybody knows that companies don't like to put the same girl in a line twice. So if a perfomer wants a long career in porn they have to fit in different types of movies, gonzo and feature, big butt and other movies.
Sometimes it's more about reinventing yourself and after all people pay money to watch me on camera so I have the duty to look the best I can. People want eye candy in their porn.
Assanova
Member

balls deep
296 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 2:21PM
As much as it pains me to say it I think Katja is right. she's had the same look for a couple years now. She given the fans of that look (like me) tonnes of movies. More than we could ask for. As much as I love that big bootied read head of the past two years I know I'll never see all of those scenes. If slimming down, dying her hair, growing armpit hair...whatever, if that helps her get new fans or a different demographic then it's probably a smart career move.
Assanova
Member

balls deep
296 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 2:29PM
Another good point. I overlooked the impact of hip hop/hispanic culture. Ever see some of the BET after dark videos? Damn!

I think another aspect of it is that the ass is finally widely accepted as a sexual body part on par with breasts in the mainstream.

I blame political correctness. I'm very upset I missed on the days when you could goose a woman or slap'em on the butt and get away with it.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 4:56PM
That's because most company owners have no idea what we fans like. When you have one of the hottest girl in the industry (like yourself) it doesn't matter how many movies she does for the same line besides, big butt girls are very hard to find so I don't see a problem using the same girls. I know it doesn't work that way and companies think they should bring in new girls all the time but for me that's bullshit. I mean can one desire too much of a good thing?
 
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 9:29PM
I just wanted to throw this in here. It's a great song by "My Ruin" and it fits so well:


Artist: My Ruin
Album: The Horror Of Beauty
Title: Made To Measure

I was born like this with hips like this
Lips like this and wrists like this
legs like this and arms like this
a fist like this to hit you with, now
you're like school on Sunday
You aint got no class
You keep running your mouth but...
You can kiss my ass!

Not made to measure baby
One size does not fit all
I will not be the one
You make to take the fall

I got the curves to fear, got the words to feel
and when I scream I've heard them say
i've got the voice to heal
You dont need to be sorry
you dont have to be saved
You just need to be proud of the body that God gave

Not made to measure baby
One size does not fit all
I will not be the one
You make to take the fall

I'm so fat I'm fucked up
I'm so skinny I'm sick
I'm tired of the magazines
Talkin that bullshit!
I'm not fat, they're fucked up
I'm not skinny, they're sick
I'm just tired of the critics who keep talking that bullshit

I was born like this with eyes like this
Teeth like this and thighs like this
A face like this, a waist like this
and when I die...I'll die like this...now
You're like school on Sunday
You ain't got no class
You keep running your mouth but
I just might kick your ass!

Not made to measure baby
One size does not fit all
I will not be the one
You make to take the fall

Assanova
Member

balls deep
296 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 2:58AM
Cool lyrics! I'm trying to find that song on Ares but not having any luck.
BSD
Senior Member

San Diego, CA
2508 Posts
11/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 5:31AM
Friends -

Looks like Katja has a song that she finds very inspirational.

Here is the booty song I want played at my funeral.

Big Bottom

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin
That's what I said.
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read.
My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo.
I love to sink her with my pink torpedo.

Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about bum cakes,
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom,
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?

I saw her on Monday, twas my lucky bun day
You know what I mean.
I love her each weekday, each velvety cheekday
You know what I mean.
My love gun's loaded and she's in my sights
Big game's a waiting there inside her tights
Yeah!

Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about mud flaps
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?"

Spinal Tap from "This Is Spinal Tap" , 1984

BSD

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 5:54AM
Now I especially like this part Katja, it's like music to my ears ;-)
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 5:58AM
Btw, when will we have a thread about girls who actually gained weight, like a girl who went from a small butt to a big butt. At this point only Shanna McCullough comes to mind, after she came back from her retirement her ass was fantasticly huge, it's a shame her comeback was too short :-(
loop
Senior Member

1409 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 7:30AM
u forgot tiffany mynx
francios
Senior Member

1802 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 8:18AM
Be happy with who you are, you have one hot ass!!!
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 10:42AM
Oh yeah, I forgot. She was already hot but when she became a little older and gained some extra weight it was just the perfect touch.
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