I just wanted to take a minute to say that I think that pornstars are some of the nicest people in the world. I don't think they get enough praise. It's sad how some guys call them sluts and whores and talk down to them. I think they should all be treated like queens. They do so much for the male community, I mean I am so much happier with porn than I would be without it. I am just an average looking guy and I could never get girls this beautiful to want to have sex with me b/c they are just so out of my league. I could tell that most of the beautiful girls I have tried to talk to over the years were just not interested. When you try to talk to someone and they blow you off, it's a real blow to your self esteem, especially when it happens over and over. It really sucks when you are attracted to someone and you want to be with them so bad, but they don't want you back. But because of pov porn I get to feel like beautiful girls like me. Kings of old would only dream to be able to have this kind of experience- to turn on a box and be able to feel like you are having sex with hundreds of beautiful women. Humans (as in homo habilis onward) have been evolving for over 2 million years, and only for the past 10 years or so could a guy have a POV experience with a beautiful girl. If you were born 2 million years ago and lived 40 years (which was the average lifespan for most of humanity) you would have to live 50,000 times before you got to todays era with computers where it would be possible to do this. We literally hit the lottery. Imagine all the billions of guys who weren't that attractive who never got to have sex with a beautiful girl. And for the guys that did, it was probably one or two women. But we are lucky enough to feel like we are having sex with hundreds and hundreds of beautiful women. So all that to say this, I think pornstars are some of the most kind, unselfish, and just plain fuckin' awesome people on the planet. And just remember, for every guy that talks down to you, there are a thousand guys out there who love you and appreciate you, and are fucking blown away by your sexuality and beauty.
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Very fine thoughts, and why I think investing money in such pays back big time. POV is not my key focus, but I can see the point of yours. Yeah, POV DVD must be a little underrated. So now I'll take them more seriously. I got a good bunch. But somehow that Adriano guy messed it all up a little bit. Bringing in the hottest chicks you could ever find and showing off way too much tongue in waaaay too many asses for waaaay too long. But I can live with that. In fact I've found the key to getting through all them great Adriano flicks from Digital Sin, that So Young & Sexy P.O.V. stuff. You just go to bonus material and choose pick your pleasure, skipping all licking easily by choosing something else. Then you'll have maybe five girls doing the tease first, and then there will eventually be the whole same bunch in maybe doggie. And then you can live with it easily.
Of the porn actresses/models I know personally, I agree with your sentiments. They are genuinely nice, friendly, down to earth and open minded people, much more than can be said for the religious zealots (and those who also claim the moral high ground) who put them down.
Well pornstars are people too. It's ideal to have a genuine respect for everyone. Being nice is quite fine, being a kiss ass is annoying. Nailing a beautiful girl isn't based on looks alone. You need confidence. Highlight your attributes whether it be physical or personality wise. Fact of the matter is the illusion that the porn workers are perfect. Some are good people some are bad. Of course you may disagree, but I just wanted to drop my two cents in.
First off, thank you dragon sign and jiggly boobs for your replies, I agree with you guys. Although I really love mike adriano for bringing us so many gorgeous girls, and I love the girl on girl and girl on guy pov rimjobs, These make me cum harder than just about anything. I wish more directors would do this. I wish I would see more pov cumshots and pov threesomes where the girl spreading open the other girl is making lots of eye contact with the camera (without their head cocked sideways), but overall I think he is a awesome director. It's true he does lick gapes for a long time, but I think that's just his favorite thing to do. But I can't really blame him. If I was the director I'm sure I would want to do the same thing lol. I see where you're coming from, blackonidragon7, I think I need to clarify myself a little better. I didn't necessarily mean that all pornstars are nice, pleasant people. What I was saying is that the service that they are providing to society (specifically male population) makes them kind, wonderful people. They help out all the guys that would not be able to ever have sex with extremely beautiful women be able to do so through pov porn. Thereby they make it possible for males to get closer to true happiness. I don't believe it would be possible to achieve true happiness if you never could have sex, or only have sex with people that you weren't really that attracted to. Kind of like how I don't think it would be possible to be really happy if you could only eat beans and rice and bread, or if you had to be out in the hot sun all day (even though you could still survive living like this). So since they help so many people be happier, I believe that that alone makes them kind, great people. As far as the confidence thing goes, I mean I've heard it a thousand times, but honestly I just don't buy it. I mean, you can't really fake confidence; people will see through it. If you get rejected by beautiful women over and over, how can you be truly confident? Confidence is bred by success. And look at it this way, let's say they're was a girl that you just weren't attracted to at all. She could come up to you and be the most confident person in the world, and you still wouldn't be interested. Actually, it would drive you further away because confidence implies boldness and persistence, which means she would be talking to you a lot and being bold, which would scare you away if you weren't attracted. This has the same effect when you try to be confident with girls who aren't attracted to you. And honestly, if showering these girls with compliments and praise for making my life so much better makes me a kiss ass, then so be it. Have any of you noticed a change you made at some time in your life that made it easier for you to attract beautiful women? Also, I'm wondering have any of you ever talked to a pornstar, and did they come across as nice?
Edited by - ilikesexytime on 8/28/2014 12:04:10 PM
Confidence is only part of it. The only way confidence helps is by stopping you from being afraid of trying despite rejection. Once confidence gets you to talk her you'll still need some sort of personality trait(s) to get her attention or get her interested. You'll need to be interesting or funny or a smooth talker. Women aren't wired like men and they aren't as attracted to looks as guys are. A lot of women will put a man with fame, money, or game(smooth talker) ahead of looks.I used to go to the AEE/AVN conventions on a regular basis. I was/am very surprised how nice/friendly the vast majority of the girls were. I know they have to be because that's part of why they're there but most of the girls didn't seem to fake it. I was also kind of surprised how sexual many of them seemed. I know that might sound strange considering I'm talking about pornstars but there's a certain kind of sexuality many of them gave off that makes you feel like perhaps under the circumstance you could hook up with them. I know that isn't the case but they give off that vibe. It's kinda like I image a stripper to be when they're trying to get more money out of you except the pornstars in this case aren't trying to shake up down. I wonder if it's something most of them can turn on and off...or if they're totally aware they're doing it...or if it's just they way they usually are.
Yeah I agree. Guys don't really take popularity, money, or game into account usually they just go for looks. What are some attributes that make someone a smooth talker as opposed to not? And that's cool that most of them seemed chill. And yeah I bet they are more sexual than most girls :) They prolly don't have any inhibitions since they know a lot of people have seen them fucking, so it's like 'what do I have to hide?' They're free to be open with their sexuality. It's really sad to me that so many people in our society view sex as such a taboo act I wish people were more open sexually
My opinion of pornstars is that they don't get anywhere near the respect they deserve. They get hate from the people who think porn is an awful thing. They don't get proper aknowledgement from the people who watch and enjoy their work because it's such a taboo subject to talk about (besides being pretty weird to talk about in general public). And amazingly they don't get the right type of resect from a lot their supposed fans who seem to not think of them as people but sexbots that are supposed to do whatever they want regardless of the girl's emotional or physical feelings. I image that many people think there's nothing much to being a pornstar than just showing up and having sex but there's so much more to it than that. To be a good/great pornstar a girl must have looks, charisma, sex appeal, and be able to sell the performance to make it look good to the audience. It's not something most people can do well. Then there's all the stuff pornstars have to put up with.... Alienating family members with there decision to do porn. Public stigma where the public looks down on girls who do porn. Some porn directors who don't care about the girls and push them to do things that hurt or they might not be comfortable with. The demanding fans who are only fans if the girl does what they want to see and pester the girls non-stop if they don't do what they want. The creepy fans who don't know where to draw the line. The insensitive and ignorant fans who just say stupid and upsetting things to the girls and get annoyed that the girl is upset by it. Being a pornstar should actually be a fun job for the most part. Being paid to have sex? How can that not be a great thing? Well, all of the things I list above really tends to put a damper on it. The sex part may be good but all the other stuff makes it a hard business to be in. Porn is a multi-billion dollar business that people are obviously into but is continuously putdon and vilified publicly. There are pornstars who probably have more male fans than most mainstream actresses but they can never get their due or props because of the nature of what they do. I think pornstars provide a great source of entertainment but don't get the respect, noteriety, (or money) they truly deserve.
Some guys are just charming. Some guys are just entertaining to talk to. Some guys are just fun to be around. Some guys just have charisma. The biggest attribute of a smooth talker is having something interesting to say and being able to charm the woman while he's talking about whatever. Some of the time the key is to not come across like you're actually hitting on the girl even though you really are.I have no idea what the porn conventions are like now but back when I used to go to AVN/AEE before the general public was allowed in I think the girls were allowed to do and show a bit more. Groping was encouraged. Back then most of the pics taken with the girls was with guys hands on their breasts and butts and the girls were into it. Not all the girls. Most of the contract girls from the bigger studios didn't do it but most of the Gonzo girls happily encouraged it. They enjoyed the contact with fans. Some girls were annoyed that they couldn't show more skin. Of course there were some girls who didn't seem to be into it that much but they were the exceptions. But putting aside all the breast grabbing and ass slapping that went on the most impressive thing was that the girls seem to be having a great time doing the convention and were just so nice and glad to see their fans and the people who were just there to see all of the stuff going on. A lot of the girls seemed like they'd jut be fun to hang out with.
Very well put. I can see how all that stuff would really get on the girls nerves. And as far as putting them down I think a lot of that either comes from the jealousy of the girlfriends of the guys who watch porn (that they don't have the body to do it, or that their man is getting their attention so they just lash out and call them sluts or whores), or from guys who get rejected by women a lot and start to get pissed off that women won't give them attention and take it out on pornstars. And a lot of the people that judge them are so hypocritical b/c they bad mouth them in public but watch porn in private. I agree and I don't think guys look down on pornstars at all. They think they are frickin awesome. But it's the jealous girls who talk all the shit and when guys are talking to them in public they don't want to be alienated socially, so they just agree with them in the conversations. Of course not all girls are so judgmental over stupid shit; I'm just talking about the ones that are. Guys adore pornstars it's every guys dream to be with one! Maybe a small percentage of religious stuck ups (not that all religious ppl are, but some are) or guys who hate women from so much rejection take it out on them, but almost all guys are fascinated by their beauty and sex appeal! So if by any small chance a pornstar is reading this, just know that most guys out there love you for what you do for us to make us happy and let us fantasize and look at drop dead gorgeous women :) And we appreciate you and respect you and don't just look at you as a sex object but as amazing women who are sexy and smart businesswomen and unselfish and just plain cool chicks :) Edited by - ilikesexytime on 8/30/2014 10:43:48 AM
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To follow the headline here I'd say pornstars is what popstars once was, maybe there's a line drawn around the rise and fall and comming along of Britney Spears or something, neither do I talk about the lifelong singer/songwriter-artists, but all those who got in for the spotlight and some quick affairs. You just have to divide Music Idol and its young female attenders by fifty or hundred or something, driven by some truly felt attention needs, and the mathematics remains semantics. And yeah they should not get less blessed either and there's always a good chance for a little break through. I guess in a time when pretty much every thing is sung and done and hits are cooked from old ingredients they have some advantages, too. I'm always openminded to newbies in this business. I can't say the same about average singers popping up out there all the time having nothing to tell from not already being told. Many can't even sing, but I'm pretty sure plenty of them can hit some high stage further down the line. And I'm willing to pay for some good show. I'm not sure about that if singing was the case. If so you had gotta bring in some damn good band.
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Posted - Aug 31 2014 : 6:44PM
I like the way you think Draxxx, man I am glad there is at least one guy who has the brain to realize what he is watching.
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