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danl
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3/05
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 5:09AM
First, for the MILF theme to really "click," there should be at the very least, a 12 (one school career) difference between the ages of the MILF/Cougar and her younger prey---Far too many times, the porn filmed couple are very close to the same age, and that totally defeats the image of the MILF mystique, imho.
Second, the older woman MUST always be the stalker, much like the Cougar in the wild, who stalks and mates with younger males, uses them until she is tired of them, and then, like a burned-out cigarette, tosses them aside to "light out" for another younger mate---someone knew this sexual fact of animal behavior, thus, the moniker.
Third (and this is my BIGGEST peeve re porn-styled milfs) she MUST be a SMOKER--a screen character persona every MILF themed Hollywood main stream director uses to accentuate the older woman's sexy sophistication, as she seduces the more naive male.
Starting with "The Graduate," extremely sexy female cigarette light-up and smoking scenarios have always been an integral part of Hollywood's MILF seduction theme--"Do you have a light"--but "The Valley" has yet to learn how to implement this extremely erotic screen tool, in either its gonzo "tease" vignettes or feature film productions, and probably never will!!
JohnW
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6/08
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 5:28AM
I disagree completely on the smoking, I don't want to see that regardless of theme or circumstances.
My biggest problem with a lot of the MILF porn is that the women have way too much makeup. I mean, we are watching "older" girls (though I think it is a bit offensive to call 35+ "older"), anyhow, we already know they don't look like 18 year olds nor should they and too much makeup doesn't help that anyway.
danl
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3/05
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 5:56AM
Weaned since "diaperhood" that smoking is akin to terrorism, but for each one of YOU, there's one of US--google, not just "smoking fetish," but "smoking glamour."
You see, a great many of we men, enamored with the sight of beautiful, well-built ladies smoking cigarettes, consider smoking classy and glamorous and indeed, almost an art form, especially when a gorgeous woman smokes with sexy finesse, taking deep, cheek hollowing, inhales and slow exhales on a looong all-white cigarette, bringing visions of "real" blow jobs in our heads---so much more satisfying than sugar plums!!!
But, put that same cigarette between the lips of ANY man, or some unattractive woman, and UGH!, I completely agree with you.
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 12:32AM
oh god....not the smoking agenda again....geez.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 2:08AM
Both the point you make about smoking and the point you make about the woman being on the prowl make me think you're actually thinking of the 'cougar' genre not the 'MILF' genre. These are not the same thing.
You even used the word 'cougar' in your description.
I think you've got the right kind of idea when it comes to the cougar. This is a woman who is older, but still looking pretty fine for her age, oversexed and on the prowl for a younger man (or men). She goes to bars and pounces on the unsuspecting younger guy and makes him her sex toy.
A MILF is your friend's mom, the usual soccer mom, suburban housewife, blah blah blah that you just have to have, cuz she's just got that certain something that turns you on. She's the commonplace suburban housewife, so she should do all the things that the average suburban housewife/mother does - and smoking is not high on that list.
I'm not saying no soccer moms smoke, and so you certainly can have MILF scenes where the mom smokes. But not ALL suburban moms smoke, and in fact there are likely more non-smokers than smokers in this day and age; so it wouldn't make sense to have a flick where all the moms are smokers. It wouldn't ring true with the scenario. It's not about the other fetishes one might have in this case; it would be equally jarring if the performer has ridiculously huge fake boobs (boob fetish), or if she's wearing stripper heels (stripper fetish/shoe fetish/'slut' fetish), or whatever. She should look like, and be like, your average suburban mom. And she needn't be the aggressor in the MILF scenario. Many good MILF scenarios can involve the young man sheepishly admitting to his friend's mom that all the guys think she's pretty, and she gets unexpectedly turned on by it, and the fireworks ensue. Or the mom is home alone, distraught, and her son's friend comes over looking for her son - the mom is forced to lean on his chest for emotional support, and suddenly realizes what strong muscles he has. In the emotional strain of the moment, their eyes meet... you get the idea.
So anyway, my point is that I think you've got the cougar scenario confused with the MILF scenario. There can be crossover of course (Mrs. Robinson), but they're usually separate fetishes.
[edit; typos]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/27/2009 2:09:13 AM
 
Ordell
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1042 Posts
6/05
Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 3:41AM
I agree that it's pointless to put 30-40something women with 30-40something men. JAV gets this right. You see 40 year old women with boys who barely look 18 and seem so nervous they are either brilliant actors or virgins. :)
My peeve with the MILFs is they ALL have implants. Sillycone looks bad on a 20 year old, worse on a 30 year old and fucking awful on 40 and up. Yes, gravity is your worst enemy. Get over it. It shows no mercy on men, either.
danl
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Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 7:33AM
I guess we're dealing with a difference in nomenclature, here more than anything for in my thinking, the MILF and Cougar are exactly the same---sexy, older women that much younger males---- going through what I now call the years of "STUPERTY"--lust after incessantly, from their high school through college years.
You're saying that MILFS don't go on the "prowl" for younger men, and that just AIN'T SO!
I don't want to get too deep into my own sexual experiences, but I lost my virginity at 16, not with a girl my age but with a former neighbor, who was 26 at the time, and had come back home to live in an apartment while her husband was overseas.
Believe me, I didn't know "squat" about how to pickup women, or even how to discreetly show my interest toward this attractive lady, a very sexy smoker, btw, and who, very much like a younger version of Mrs. Robinson, SEDUCED me.
I honestly think that experience, the summer before my senior year in high school, had a "profound" influence on the rest of my life, and I have often contemplated if it was positive or negative, and have concluded that it was BOTH.
Thus, in the framework of MY mind, there is NO difference at all between the MILF and the Cougar, and if you notice, porn films make little distinction between the two--just wish they would incorporate smoking in BOTH their personas, to fit in more with the REAL WORLD, where the woman "on the prowl" is always looking for a "light."
As for an emphasis on an acronym, which I feel makes more sense, WILF, EVERY major Hollywood older woman/younger man themed movie, starting with Mrs. Robinson, has used cigarette smoking as a way to accentuate the experience and sophistication gap between the COUGAR/MILF and her younger prey.
And, in fact, it was from seeing so many gorgeous Hollywood stars performing in countless sexy "femme fatale" character roles over the years, that a GREAT many of we men were first indoctrinated into the sexuality of cigarette smoking, for in these "film noir" movies, the lady was extremely attractive and almost always filmed dangling a smouldering cigarette between her luscious, red lips.
And that is something I have been DESPERATELY trying to convince today's "steam stream" film directors to realize and implement in their productions--especially with MILFS/COUGARS, Femme Fatales in stress-filled dramatic feature film scenarios, and even for gonzo set-up "Tease" seduction vignettes--and, of course, bts interview segments, in which a porn star's casual "natural" smoking of a cigarette is extremely erotic to a GREAT many men.

After all , I would guesstimate 85% of the ladies who perform in porn are smokers in their personal life, so why in the HELL! won't you guys show them smoking cigarettes in my fantasy world, ESPECIALLY IN the MILF/Cougar theme which started this thread???
kaiser1one
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Posted - Sep 27 2009 : 10:35AM
My problem with MILFs is that I expect them to be older women. But these days you'll see someone who is like 19-21 in a milf title. That's just stupid and wrong.
I've noticed this is how it goes:
Teens = 18-26
MILFs = 19+
That makes no sense.
Captain Tight Pants
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Posted - Nov 3 2009 : 9:12PM
A teen age girl can give birth to a child and be a mother. If she's cute then technically she's a MILF.
Cougars have to older but they don't have to be mothers.
I think in Porn, most of the time when they say MILF they mean cougar.
My pet peeve with the vast majority of MILF scenes is that is seems like all the "MILFs" have big fake boobs.
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