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Pete Zaface
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Posted - Dec 31 2008 : 11:23PM
Elsewhere, I've raised the question as to whether we watch the porn that we want or we watch what's produced because it's the only way we can see women we like doing things we'd like to watch them do. I'm decidedly on the side of the former position.
To take this one step further, I'd like to post my own suggestions about things I've seen that I found erotic or interesting, or things I'd like to see. Some I've mentioned in other threads; others may have been picked up from others.
For what they're worth:
1) Someone needs to do Amateur Allure one better. The girls usually range from pretty to beautiful, and they're dressed and made up in a way that enables you to believe they might actually be coeds, retail workers, waitresses, etc. The complaints have been catalogued in other threads. Someone who addresses those complaints while maintaining the aura that the girls present could do well, MHO. The FTVX.com site may be the answer. We'll see.
2) Bring back Starbangers. Find girls who don't typically do mutiple-male-partner scenes and get them to do a gangbang. Make it their fantasy, not just a bunch of mopes waiting to get off. Think what potential a one-time gangbang with Charmane Star or Stefanie Renee (yeah, I know she's retired) or Sunny Lane or Penny Flame would have. Instant classics. I know some girls I'd like to see wouldn't be interested, but I'm sure there are some who'd do it for the right price and under the right conditions.
3) Jenna Haze did a scene several years ago where she met her man as he came home from a long, hard day at work. She was dressed in a simple yet elegant dress, had candles burning, poured him a drink, then proceeded to alleviate his day's stress by giving him one of her world-class blowjobs. It's the only scene like that I've ever seen.
4) Many years ago, Mike South and some friend were in a Bennigan's when a girl in a nearby booth became interested in their conversation. Within an hour or so, unknown to her fiance, she was before Mike's camera, doing her first and, I believe, only porno shoot. I still get aroused thinking of something like that. If someone could pull off something like that consistently -- and believably, because there's so much fake-recruitment in porn these days -- I'd snap it up.
5) For girls that actually have day jobs or are students, it'd be really erotic to begin the scene as they're getting off from work or leaving school, reinforcing the idea that the girls were "real," at least for this scene.
6) I've remarked before on how I found a scene with Gina Ryder getting fucked in a bar in front of a crowd to be erotic. I've since scene the scene again, and I noticed it wasn't as hot as I remembered it. Based on the way it was edited, it appears as if the few crowd shots weren't done while the sex was occurring, and it's quite likely that the fucking happened in front of far fewer people than the director intended us to believe. But I still believe in the potential of scenes involving sex in front of an audience. The drunken-frat-party type of audience and camera work of the videos involving them doesn't do much for me. But it would be fun to see girls getting fucked in front of an audience, even if it was only some people watching through the window from the hallway outside the room where BangBros shoot some of their girls. The more the audience looks like real people and less like drunk college students or parolees, the better.
7) Believable spontaneity or something unexpected is hot when it happens, which is seldom. Here are a few examples: Rachel Roxxx did a Tugjobs scene where she was doing the "stripper slide" on a guy's dick and slid it up into her pussy. That was highly erotic, because it doesn't happen often in handjob videos and thus was unexpected, and because, as someone who's been to several massage studios and wanted so badly for something like that to happen, it was the next best thing to having the fantasy fulfilled.
Nadia Moore did a scene once where she fucked somebody, then brought the cameraman over and gave him a blowjob. I think Tara Patrick did the same thing once, too. And Natasha Dolling, while getting fucked, motioned the cameraman over and started sucking him off in a scene. Each of these scenes was erotic because what I saw was both unexpected and believable.
8) I'd really like to see fewer scenes where the girl looks like a hungry guppy while the guy jacks off into her mouth or onto her face and more like the Julia Ann cumshot here. Let the girl bring the guy off with her mouth!
9) The sex appeal of women getting fucked in hose is vastly underestimated by American producers.
10) Producers should spend some time watching Japanese videos, particularly those from IdeaPocket and S1. Yeah, the mosaic sucks, but ignore that for the moment and look for ideas for attire, surroundings, atmosphere, etc. I think there's a lot of potential there.
U.S. porn doesn't have to exist in the rut that some of us see it in. All it takes is a little imagination.
Just MHO, and worth what you paid for it.
Edited by - Pete Zaface on Dec 31 2008
Edited by - Pete Zaface on Dec 31 2008
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Dec 31 2008 : 11:29PM
11) Sometimes, a porn star will introduce a friend to the biz -- Avy Scott and Hunter Young, for example. Imagine a scene where Hunter was sitting on a sofa with Avy. Brief chitchat/interview, wherein we find out that Hunter is Avy's friend and, at Avy's behest, thinks she might give porn a try. Her first step is to watch as Avy does a scene. Afterwards, Hunter is asked if she wants to proceed; she answers affirmatively, and now it's Hunter's turn. Same dick or a new one -- doesn't matter to me. Take the idea and work with it.
12) I can sometimes get off just during the interview, thinking that I'm about to some the hottie being interviewed have sex. But I also think it'd be erotic sometimes to have the interview after the scene, while the cum's fresh on, and dripping from, her face. I fucked a girl once who let me cum on her face and then declined a towel while we talked afterwards. I was ready to go again in record time.
Edited by - Pete Zaface on 12/31/2008 11:42:17 PM
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Dec 31 2008 : 11:30PM
13. A girl getting fucked with cum on her face is pretty sexy, IMHO. Too many scenes finish with the simultaneous or sequential pop shots to the face. Not so good is the Japanese bukkake way of doing it, where one guy does all the fucking while 20 more jack off onto her face. Better to have guys finish a blowjob to her face while she's getting fucked by another guy, or have one guy fuck her, move up to fiish on the face while another moves in to take over the fucking duties.
14. There was a pretty hot scene a few years ago where a naked starlet answered the door for a pizza delivery and the dude wound up getting a blowjob from her. Haven't seen anything like that since, but it sure would be fun to see it again.
Edited by - Pete Zaface on 1/2/2009 9:50:27 AM
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Jan 4 2009 : 12:36PM
Four days later, and not even one you're-full-of-shit response?
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - Jan 4 2009 : 2:32PM
3) Jenna Haze did a scene several years ago where she met her man as he came home from a long, hard day at work. She was dressed in a simple yet elegant dress, had candles burning, poured him a drink, then proceeded to alleviate his day's stress by giving him one of her world-class blowjobs. It's the only scene like that I've ever seen.
I have seen a British movie with a similar scene to that,it stars Sarah Hott and she supposedly works for some kind of "big boob magazine company" or something like that and it follows her day..which consists of fucking young studs,threesomes etc and the final scene has her come home to her husband at the end of her working day and sipping a glass of wine and chatting to him on the sofa and he asks how her day was and a flashback of all her fucking takes place..then they get down to action.
 
love_that_porn
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Posted - Jan 4 2009 : 3:09PM
Excellent take on things porn, PZ.
#8... that scene with Julia Ann is hot! When my girlfriend saw that she said she prefers that type of climax because it is more real life to her, as she loves it when my cock is firmly in her mouth as I'm cumming. She thinks that cum not deposited in a mouth for swallowing is wasted but realizes that in porn cum needs to be seen, so that Julia Ann scene is perfect for porn because you see the first spurt while all the following spurts are pumped into Julia's hungry mouth.
#9... since my girlfriend and I sometimes watch porn together, she loves to see what the pornstars wear. Sexy lingerie turns her on (me too!), so that helps me out with the foreplay (don't tell her) and it adds to the sexiness of the film. Marc Dorcel flicks are way hot in this respect. The wearing of lingerie during a sex scene is just added eye candy.
#10... Japanese porn does have a certain bent that American producers haven't experimented with and the women are fucking gorgeous but my gripe is that even the most beautiful Japanese pornstars look ridiculous when they do that "pained-expression screaming" that Japanese porn is famous for. Now that is a cock blocker!
wcw43921
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Look Into My Eyes--
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Posted - Jan 4 2009 : 4:54PM
With regard to facial expressions, I'd like to see more smiling on the part of both male and female performers. Sex is the most enjoyable thing on the planet--shouldn't the people having sex on camera at least look like they're enjoying themselves?
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killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 4 2009 : 7:45PM
^ I like smiles too.
Many of my favourite performers are ones who have a pretty smile, and show it often in their scenes.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Feb 25 2009 : 3:35PM
Pete Zaface
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8/03
Posted - May 13 2009 : 10:47AM
A variation on number 5 above: Pick up a girl at her place of work -- a bank, a retail store, an office -- on her lunch hour, take her to a motel, do a scene, and return her to her day job. Call the series "Nooners," "Real Nooners," or something similar.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - May 13 2009 : 4:02PM
I just watched an Amateur Allure clip with Austyn Summers, where she brought along a friend. The friend sat and watched her give the guy a blowjob for awhile, and then, when asked, she took Austyn's place, eventually receiving the scene finale.
I don't know if the "friend" was real or not -- I didn't recognize her -- but the thought that this might actually be a case where a porn girl brought a civilian with her to a shoot and the friend wound up participating heightened the eroticism for me.
WardqueenJanine
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Posted - May 13 2009 : 9:40PM
Pete Zaface wrote:
13. A girl getting fucked with cum on her face is pretty sexy, IMHO. Too many scenes finish with the simultaneous or sequential pop shots to the face. Not so good is the Japanese bukkake way of doing it, where one guy does all the fucking while 20 more jack off onto her face. Better to have guys finish a blowjob to her face while she's getting fucked by another guy, or have one guy fuck her, move up to fiish on the face while another moves in to take over the fucking duties.
Sorry about the cut/paste on the double quote but...
Starbangers was great! A combo of very sexy girls and erotic action. It was one of the original gangbang series. I agree that some girls who don't usually do GB should be featured.
Action in front of a REAL crowd is very hot! I agree with Pete that cutting in the audience after the shot is filmed is a cheap and easily detected trick. I also agree that those group scenes that are done in bunch of a bunch of drunken clowns are a complete turn off. Feature a girl who makes a connection with the audience as she s getting fucked and who makes it apparent that getting fucked in front of that audience is a turn on for her.
Why is it that this, (scenes with the girl getting fucked with one or more loads on her face) is so rare? It's not that big a deal to film. I agree it's highly erotic.
Come on producers, pay attention!
xayhoundb
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Posted - May 14 2009 : 12:14AM
^ I haven't really seen too many DVD titles that have these type of scenes, but there's a lot of websites that have girls getting fucked with cum on their face (some real, and some not).
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - May 14 2009 : 1:03PM
How about Cum face fuck dolls from Evil Empire directed by Jake Malone if you like seeing girls with cum on there faces as they are getting fucked.
Pete Zaface
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3064 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 3 2009 : 10:29AM
Brainstorming here: How about a reverse Fuck-a-Fan, where civilian girls or first-timers pick a male porn-star to have sex with, preferably one they've fantasized about, instead of having them paired with whatever parolee happens to show up that day? This assumes that the women are knowledgeable enough about porn to be have a favorite male performer, and that they'd accept the opportunity to fuck him on video. That's probably a pretty small pool, but, hey, I can dream, can't I?
 
shank
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Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 7:01AM


Brainstorming here: How about a reverse Fuck-a-Fan, where civilian girls or first-timers pick a male porn-star to have sex with, preferably one they've fantasized about..

Thats difficult because whereas random guys from the street would want to have sex with a female pornstar; random females from the street would do no such thing. You have to stage it with paid females, and then you are back to square one.
Pete Zaface
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3064 Posts
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Posted - Jun 4 2009 : 10:08AM
Like I said, I can dream, can't I? One-shot-wonder amateurs are probably the best bets for this scenario.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Jun 22 2009 : 5:18PM
A series or site where the girls get to choose a fantasy that she would like to have fulfilled, picks the fulfillers, describes what she's going to do and why she wants to do it, then does it, then talks a little bit about it afterwards. The idea is to make the scene about her having her fantasy fulfilled -- exercising an element of control, if you will -- rather than merely having her do the bidding of a director.
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Jun 23 2009 : 5:44PM
A series or site called "Ride 'em Cowgirl," devoted to the queens of that position. For good measure, a companion site or series, "Ride 'em Cowgirl -- in Reverse."
gerva
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Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 1:31PM
Hi
Pete Zaface said several months ago
"I've remarked before on how I found a scene with Gina Ryder getting fucked in a bar in front of a crowd to be erotic. I've since scene the scene again, and I noticed it wasn't as hot as I remembered it. Based on the way it was edited, it appears as if the few crowd shots weren't done while the sex was occurring, and it's quite likely that the fucking happened in front of far fewer people than the director intended us to believe. But I still believe in the potential of scenes involving sex in front of an audience. The drunken-frat-party type of audience and camera work of the videos involving them doesn't do much for me. But it would be fun to see girls getting fucked in front of an audience, even if it was only some people watching through the window from the hallway outside the room where BangBros shoot some of their girls. The more the audience looks like real people and less like drunk college students or parolees, the better."
"Stiff Competition 1984" comes to mind which was nearly perfect. It's about a cock sucking competition and championship. Gina Carrera gives the first blowjob but the male has to jerk himself so she doesn't technically get him off. Kevin James kisses
what appears to be her cleaned face because he has taken bets on the time and has won. But no interview with cum on her. Later she wins the championship in a boxing ring on Peter North and again NO CENTER RING INTERVIEW with Gina the winner. What a lost opportunity even with edits, there was a crowd but probably not at the crucial moments.
Compare that with "American Cock Sucking Championship 1" with Inari Vachs and a crowd of 4 males sitting on a bench in an empty boxing venue and you'll see what I mean.
Another is "Lusty Life 11" (Zane 2003) with Debbie Foley. I think it's from "50 Ways To Lick Your Lover 1989". Debbie is blowing North in a suck fest for about a minute with no edits and gets Peter off on her face with her hands. She then sits up and raises her hands so as not to touch anything and has a proud smile on her cum covered face but the camera stays far and does not come in and interview the winner in all her splendid beauty. At Excalibur the money shot is on the front cover (with some yellow paint)
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 5:43PM
Another idea, and worth what you paid for it: Call it reverse Dancing Bear, where the girls are the strippers and the guys are the audience and provide selected candidates to participate with the girls.
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