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Dan
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 11:44AM
I've had an awfully hard time finding just one picture of a guy playing hardball with the lady's tit while banging her pussy or ass. And it's none other than Rocco Siffredi who did it: "The Dark Side of Rocco"
I'm a bit mystified and puzzled why only certain kinds of stretching the lady is allowed in porn? It's ok to stretch the lady's ass with fingers and DAP, it's ok to stretch the lady's pussy with fingers and DPP, and it's ok to stretch the lady's mouth with fingers and cock. But guys in porn seem to be strictly forbidden from reaching over and squeezing and stretching the lady's tit and nipple during a hard no-holes-barred fuck on her.
The guy would have to use moderate force on the lady's tit of course to avoid discomfort for her. But this is true of any kind of sex, including the double-anal. Within limits, there is no reason why any part of the lady's body shouldn't be squeezed or stretched. And that includes her nipples and tits.
I've heard someone say before that guys banging the lady are not allowed to play with her tits because their hands cover her up too much. And the viewer can't see.
But such an explanation makes no sense to me at all. A guy who has anal sex with the lady also covers up a part of her asshole with his cock. But that cover-up only makes the sex action more hot. The same is true for tit-play.
Sure, if the guy just puts his hand over the lady's tit and doesn't do much with it. Then indeed he would be covering her up unnecessarily. But if he squeezes her tit to make it deform and bulge out of his hand. Or if he pinches her nipple and pulls on it enough to visibly stretch her areolus. Then such tit-play would be hot in itself. And covering up the lady's tit would not be an issue at all in such active tit-play. Just like partially covering up the lady's asshole is not an issue at all in anal sex on her.
Perhaps this lack of tit-play on the lady while she is getting fucked is just one of those blind spots in porn that everyone religiously follows as gospel truth. But instead of it being gospel truth, it is rather a simple lack of imagination.

Edited by - Dan on Jan 6 2008

loveporn
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 2:21PM
agree
threesomebody
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 2:24PM
Tit play is so intimate. It's like kissing.
Dan
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 2:51PM
Tit-play can be as gentle an intimate as kissing is. But it doesn't have to be that way.
The guy can be rough on the lady's tits, just like Rocco is in that front-cover picture of "The Dark Side of Rocco". And actually it's this kind of rough tit-squeezing and nipple-stretching that is most appropriate during the rough and tumble of no-holes-barred sex on the lady. Instead of pulling the lady's hair and choking her. Perhaps the guys should squeeze her tits, pull her on nipples within reason, stretch her areolae a bit.
When the sex is anal, and when the sex is hard-and-fast. Then tit-play must be in line with these other sex-actions and be a little rough too.
Offender
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 3:19PM
I remember in one of the first hardcore movies I saw, Starting Over, when Bobby Vitale is pumping Jenna Jameson at one point he runs his hands over one of her tits really fast. It made me wonder if Jenna didn't like working with him or something and told him not to touch her there and he forgot for a moment, then pulled his hand away quick. From what I know about Jenna now though I don't think that's it because it seems like her and Bobby are actually good friends.
 
Dan
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 4:43PM
Probably the film director told him to stop doing that. And it's a pity. The tit-action you've described sounds pretty hot to me.
Many women actually enjoy reasonable tit-play and some nipple-pulling during sexual intercourse. And sometimes they do it to themselves, when the guy neglects to do it for them. This has been my experience with women that I've known.
Playing rough with the lady's nipples and tits actually doesn't interest me that much on its own. But when the guy does it during a good anal or DP (or even vaginal) fuck on the lady. Then the addition of rough tit-play makes it really hot for me because it substantially raises the intensity of the sex-action on the lady. Not only does she need to worry about the guy stretching and pounding her asshole. But she also needs to pay some attention to the guy stretching out her nipples and playing rough with her tits. A good fuck combined with rough tit-play makes the sex extreme and overwhelming for the lady. The sexy lady gets totally and completely fucked like a slut by the guys. Which is exactly what I like to see happen.
Edited by - Dan on 1/6/2008 5:40:30 PM
Kensington Chapp
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 5:03PM
Ah, here. What's next? Not allowed touch the ass?
At this rate, soon we'll only porn with the guy banging the chick through a hole in a sheet.

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flying_postman
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 5:51PM
I totally agree, just to add to this topic I have also noticed that male stars rarely suck the girls tits (with the exception of Manuel and LT). I recently saw a scene with Rico Strong and a hot latina with a beautiful pair of natural tits with large nipples bouncing inches from his face and her tits were untouched throughout the scene. I kept thinking that the director or Rico has to be CRAZY not to have tit play of any kind in that scene.
I remembered in the mid 90s this act was almost standard although the focus of that era was the "Blond & Big tit" age and would have been more prevalent.
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sam46
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 5:59PM
I don't want to see guy face, or hairy man-hands.
I'm not alone, probably why you rarely see M/F kissing/eating of any kind.
Dan
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 6:15PM
I think that picture of Rocco Siffredi holding tightly onto the lady's tit while he is banging her hard and fast looks pretty hot to most porn fans (click on the link in my first post above to see the picture).
There is a good reason why Rocco was so popular among many porn fans for such a long time. And this reason is that he often thought and sex-acted outside the box. He didn't respect those self-limitations that other male actors and film directors artificially imposed on themselves. And that's why he has been more successful than most in the porn business.
But just because Rocco Siffredi is now semi-retired doesn't mean that all is lost. And we are now condemned to a hell of neverending dullness of unimaginative porn-action. Someone else should step in and use his or her imagination a little.
It's the intensity of sex that entertains and keeps the fans interested. And all I suggest is just another way to make the sex more intense for the lady. And I'm not suggesting anything new. Rocco has already done it. And he has done it pretty good too, although not often enough in my opinion.
If Rocco Siffredi is not a good example for current film directors to learn from. Then who is?
P.S.
That link in my first post doesn't seem to be working well sometimes. But here is another link to the same box-cover:
"Rocco squeezes the lady's tit while banging her hard-and-fast"
Edited by - Dan on 1/6/2008 8:38:54 PM
Fred G. Sanford
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 12:23AM
I agree wholeheartedly and raise you one. There's far too little tit sucking before and during sex in Western porn, period. I just don't get it. So much of the marketing of porn is focused on tits. Add to that, the commonality of girls enhancing their tits to increase their popularity. Then directors shoot hours of footage but only give us a few seconds of obligatory tit recognition. What gives?
It burns me when I see nice tits bouncing in a guys face and the dude doesn't even acknowledge it. A mean, what would the average guy do if he had access to Amy Reid's tits? We be grabbing and sucking on those puppies all the time --I do it with my girlfriends. Even porn that is supposed to be "tit-centric" has very little actual tit sucking.
Do Western directors think this is such a waste of time? Do girls object to having their tits sucked? Do they find it too intimate --like kissing? What's the deal?
Recently, I've become a much bigger fan of Japanese porn solely because they are so much better are shooting tit play specifically --and sex in general. It's so fuckin' hot!
Yeah, the censoring in JAV is annoying as fuck, the lack of ethnic diversity can become monotonous, and it be nice to have more then 1 girl per movie, but boy do they get the most out of their talent! They don't rush the foreplay, the don't dub over the sex sounds, the male talent is not in a hurry, the girls actually cream, and the viewer really feels like he's been invited to a private party. Hell JAV even makes gangbangs, piss, and bukkake look intimate. They really understand Voyeurism!
My wish for 2008 is for the advent of a studio/director who can take the diversity of talent and the graphicness of Western porn and merge it with the Japanese intimate "girl-centric" style. Imagine Amy Reid getting kissed, her pussy and ass eatin', and DPed, by a gang of guys going from gaping her ass to sucking her tits the entire scene. Then finishing with 10 pops...and she swallows it all. How does that sound?
Just like the auto industry, we need some Japanese competition and innovation in the Porn industry.
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noahped
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 12:38AM
Photographic Mammaries had this a lot, that series is missed.
There have been many a scene lately that I've watched where I thought, "Omg look at her boobs, how in the world is nobody sucking on them??"
warrenwest67
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 3:04PM
I know from my experiance, my girl LOVES tit play only BEFORE orgasm. But after, I get my hand slapped. Before she cums, I can do whatever I want to them, light or rough. I love playing and slaping them around while pumping hard. or just holding on to them like handles.
I can only guess that most scenes are scripted and no one tells the guy to get busy on the tits.Check out [ invalid url ]
Edited by - WARRENWEST67 on 1/7/2008 3:08:42 PM
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 3:49PM
In the real world, tit and nipple worship/play is a big part of foreplay and sexual arousal for many women. It's actually known to release oxytocin in women (and men also), which is released in abundance during orgasm. So it can play a big role in helping a woman to achieve orgasm.
But that's just it...that's in REAL LIFE.
This is porn we are talking about. They show men routinely jacking off furiously to orgasm in porn, pulling out of a nice, tight, wet orifice belonging to a beautiful young woman cuz the fucking HAND feels sooooo much better than she does, right?
Porn isn't real. Why would they show something real like nipple play to help the female talent orgasm when her real orgasm isn't in the script in the first place?
Yeah....I'm jaded.
Dan
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Posted - Jan 7 2008 : 8:34PM
I don't think Rocco was squeezing that lady's tit for her pleasure (see the link in the first post of this thread).
Rough tit-play is visually exciting in itself. And when it is done in combination with a good fuck on the lady. Then it can make the sex action look scorchingly hot for the viewer.
Everything in the sex scene is supposed to be done for show and for the viewer's entertainment. And that should be the main purpose of nipple and tit-play on the lady too.
But you can't really separate the actors from the action. When the guy starts stretching out the lady's nipples while banging her pussy or ass. Then the lady quite likely will express some feelings on her face due to the intense sensations she gets from having her nipples manipulated like that. And this too would be hot for many porn fans to see.
Many porn fans crave to see some feelings and emotions on the lady's face, while she is having sex. And quite often they are disappointed when they don't see much. I think that a skillful man can manipulate the lady's nipples in such a way as to give her intense physical sensations which she will naturally express on her face. And those real feelings and emotions on her face would make the sex action very hot for the viewers to watch.
Many viewers crave to see real emotions on the lady's face so much that they even enjoy watching her expressions of pain and discomfort during hard anal sex and DAP. And it's not because these viewers are sadists. They enjoy it because these may be the only real emotions they get to see in the entire film. They hate indifference. And any emotion is better than indifference.
I think that a skillful nipple-play during anal or vaginal intercourse intense enough to make the lady express real feelings and emotions on her face is a much better way to satisfy these emotion-craving viewers than having the lady do a DAP for them.

 
Breetai
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Posted - Jan 8 2008 : 4:41PM
If they want to sell more DVD's, they should include what guys like to see. While porn isn't real, consumers like it to have some real things in it, or else the videos would save money by using blow-up dolls and fake cumshots. Plenty of guys are sticklers for natural breasts -- porn companies would be wise to put breasts on display in various ways, including showing them getting stimulated or squeezed.
Some are better than others. I've noticed PrimeCups does a great job of getting the most out of the tits on screen -- tit-play, tit-fucking, tit-cumshots, oiled-tits, bouncing-tits, etc.
TitStick
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Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 6:55PM
Here's another topic that shows how the industry has changed since I've been away. In the early days, the guys actually liked to have sex with women - they liked playing and sucking on tits. Nowadays it seems like the guys spend so much time in the gym bulking up and admiring themselves, they forget that we watch the movies because we like to have sex with women - and the male performers are our surrogates....
poobah9
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 1:35AM
At this rate, soon we'll only porn with the guy banging the chick through a hole in a sheet.
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What a great idea. Maybe that would get the Amish into porn.
And we could have some Mormon porn where they fuck while wearing temple garments.
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Breetai
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 2:18AM
My thoughts EXACTLY. Women are wonderful playthings, but most guys on camera these days treat them with some degree of indifference at best and abusiveness at worst. They just pound away at various holes from various positions until they're told to jerk off on her face. What a waste.
As a breast-man myself, I love to see the girl's tits given special attention -- fondling, sucking, and ultimately titty-fucking and titty cumshots.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 3:50PM
Interesting observation.
. . .
I love to watch tit-play. I also wish there were a lot more of it in porn.
Maybe some porn directors will chime in on this topic and shed some light.
sam46
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 4:26PM
Easy - raincoaters aren't interested.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 5:47PM
Yes. I'm aware that porn has gotten to the point to where you wouldn't easily mistake it for anything resembling real sex between two people who mean anything at all to each other.
I saw a clip from some web site not long ago. It was amazing the contrast between that and much of what you see on the majority of adult DVDs. The guy was actually a person. He was actually allowed to kiss the girl and touch her and caress her and in turn, treat her like a real person. You would almost be forgiven for mistaking them for a real life couple.
There was energy and heat and chemistry in that scene. Unfortunately, I think, maybe, the industry pays too much attention to customer criticism. When the guy becomes nothing but a disembodied cock, she might as well be fucking herself with a dildo.
Yes. Porn is fantasy but I kind of prefer to see the talent as still being human beings.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 5:51PM
I think part of that may be that they need guys who the women actually like. It's almost palpable, sometimes, that the girls just aren't into many of these guys. They don't have to be in love with them but you can tell when a woman is getting into a dude. And it doesn't happen much.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 8:22PM
How do you know? Did you take a poll or something?
What's the definition of "raincoater": Someone who isn't interested in tit-play in their porn?



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