That's Julia Ann? The Julia Ann? Of "Blondage" fame? Sha-yowee. Jules Jordan Video should have booked for the next six months, six scenes per director. Damn.
Yeah I'm with you guys on Julia Ann really doing some impressive stuff these days. About a month ago I wrote the following in a thread about an awesome blowjob she recently gave: [url=396744]I gotta say, <bJulia Ann</b's recent stuff is really impressing me too. I was cynical that she would put in good performances, given her long-time contract girl status, and getting older, etc. I thought maybe she was just back to ride her popularity through a few more well-paying scenes and then call it a day. Which, to some extent I'm sure she <iis</i doing, but obviously she has no plans to short-change her fans on the quality of the action. Since writing that, I've seen at least two more of her recent scenes, and she's definitely looking great and performing even better. After many years of mostly ignoring her work, I now consider myself a fan.
IMO the short answer is that Lisa Ann & Julia Ann are doing what it takes to get work in today's slow porn marketplace. Plus, taking into account that porn is still about new girls there are fewer opportunities for "the Anns" to work--without giving something special. As for doing their IR work for Naughty America (and not some traditional dvd porn company), the pickins are slim at Vivid, Wicked, & DP for veteran female performers. So NA (and similar websites) is a good place for a veteran "name" performer to get work. Krystal Steal, Devon, Gina Lynn are among the veteran performers who have done recent work for websites--and are not working as steady (or at all) for dvd-based companies. I've been a Julia Ann fan since "Hidden Obssessions" and have always believed that she (like Janine) had an edgy side that was not presented in the sexvids she did in her early years. So she's just doing, now, what she's probably done in private--and is comfortable doing. And it shows. Good for everybody.
Those are all good points (with evidence) that honestly, I hadn't even considered, Derek. So thanks for that. But with the way Julia Ann is showing her ass right now, do you really believe that she can't get steady work and considers herself to be more or less scraping the bottom of the barrel just to land a gig or two? She might not have started in this business yesterday but to some fans, especially with how she's performing, Julia Ann is damn sure "new." [Link]
I've been familiar with Julia Ann from the start of her career with Blondage. I've always thought her looks were top shelf and I always made it a point to see her when she danced at the local strip club. I've also noticed she's come back with alot more fire. I saw a scene recently with her and Sean Michaels on the net. I'm not sure if it was originally from a DVD or not. I saw it at either julesjordan.com or premiumpass.net. If she wants to break boundaries and push the envelope of her porn career, I'm all for it.
I certainly agree with you: Julia Ann (like Janine) still has the goods. But, unfortunately, the fiscally-stronger porn studios like Vivid, DP and Wicked are putting their money into Newbie product--Hanna Hilton, Nikki Jayne, Gabriella Fox, Riley Steele. Even Vivid Fav, Savanna Samson, doesn't work much (maybe her choice, maybe not) and Brianna Banks' recent comeback was just for a couple of videos. Same with Janine's three TaxMan Comeback videos. Bottom line: DVD-producing porn studios are a young girl's biz, while the Internet provides better opportunities for established performers. On the own, personal website, or sites like NA, Bang Bros, Brazzers. It's the current economics of the biz.
I agree with this. It seems most of the vet/older pornstars don't have a lot of options in porn these days other than the MILF stuff or to go to companies/fetishes that aren't as concerned with age like the Big Butt, IR, or Big Tits type porn. For example I noticed Nina Hartley has been doing a lot of IR lately and has stepped things up with more anal and DP scenes. Nothing wrong with that but it shows that for some older pornstars the options are a bit more limited for them and they've got to step up their game. They may be beloved and respected but many of the big studios aren't going to hire them unless they're doing the occasional MILF movie. To keep up in the Gonzo/Wall to Wall porn side of the business they've got to compete with performers who push things a bit further and can't simply fall back on simply being goodlooking like many contract girls can and have gotten away with. They're playing in a different ballgame.
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 10:41AM
Which is as it should be for any contract star of any age let loose in the wild again. Some of these women have shown their true freak flags when freed of studio restraints. Did anybody suspect what lurked inside of Kylie Ireland all those years of features and tepid vignettes? There must have been something simmering inside of Julia Ann all those years ago, when she started out her career, and now she can let loose. It's a joy to behold, no matter what venue (net or DVD) used for a delivery system.
For me personally I've always seen the kind of porn a company like VIVID, WICKED or whoever does as an almost seperate type of porn. Whenever I buy or watch a VIVID movie it's because I'm into the contract girls looks. Those type of companies usually don't want or allow their girls to do anything too "hard" or remotely extreme. I was a big Chasey Lain fan but I never really expected her to do anything freaky at VIVID because she couldn't even if she wanted to. But when she started doing "Gonzo" type movies I expected more from her. However, she didn't step up her game and I grew bored with her and I suspect most of the "gonzo" audience was far from impressed with her and no one paid much attention to her (until recently for the wrong reasons). You simply can't bring that contract girl style of performance to the "Gonzo" playing field and expect that audience to be impressed. On the flip side, I was a big Lanny Barbie until she became a VIVID girl. I have no desire to see a "restrained" Lanny B. when there's plenty of older Lanny "unleashed" scenes out there that deliver more of what I want to see. Edited by - draxxx on 9/28/2008 11:10:43 AM
I noticed this thread has suddenly leaned towards being almost all about Julia Ann (not that I have a problem with that) and not so much about Lisa Ann. I guess Julia Ann's recent on-camera behavior has been more of a surprise and with that much I agree. Actually, there have been a lot of things said in this thread about Julia Ann that I obviously agree with: "Since [Julia Ann] put Wicked Pictures in her rearview shes' turned herself into...a walking and talking one-woman human cardiac arrest..." - Crucifixio Jones, newly-made full-fledged fan "That's Julia Ann? Sha-yowee." - Skronker "Impressive...she has no plans to short-change her fans on quality...I now consider myself a fan." - killbillvol69 "...she's come back with alot more fire." - mrbluelouboyle "Julia Ann still has the goods." - Derek117 "There must hae been something simmering inside of Julia Ann...it's a joy to behold..." - picman I apologize for feeling the need to snatch quotes from a thread that has less than ten replies and three hundred views at this point but it's awesome to see this sort of validation for one's opinions and to know that I'm not just seeing things. People actually agree and that's a beautiful thing. Were I Julia Ann, reading those quotes would make me extremely happy. [Link]
I think I've only seen one Julie Ann scene before her scene in MILF MAGNET. So I have to judge her on the merits of her current work. The same goes with Lisa Ann. I was totally unaware of her until she started doing the MILF stuff. Basically, the only reason I pay attention to either of them these days is because they're great looking and have big breasts (the IR stuff is just icing on the cake). But I have no real desire to see any of their old scenes so I can't compare how they perform today vs what they did back then. The comparisons to contract girl vs "Gonzo" girl was generalizations. Both of them seem to be good solid performers and they're goodlooking enough to get the boxcovers and be the main attraction of any movie they end up in these days so I think we'll be seeing them around for a long while if they choose to keep doing porn. Edited by - draxxx on 9/28/2008 11:29:52 AM
I'm not sure how I forgot this but I totally neglected to mention Lisa Ann and Julia Ann doing a scene together for Brazzers recently. Look for it at their Milfs Like It Big website. Entitled "Milfland Security 2: The Drop-off" it also features another not-so-guilty pleasure of mine, olive-skinned busty brunette Sophia Lomeli at the start (bj only) but the sex itself is all Lisa and Julia. [Link]
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 4:57PM
Really, I know this has been addressed a million times on ADT...but for every girl it's different. Being a contract star has it's perks but the companies have rules on what they release. For instance I happen to know that Chloe, before and during her time as a contrat star at VCA, was no less naughty on camera than she was with any other company...I also know that A LOT of footage of her doing some crazy stuff was cut out of her scenes and that somewhere there was a (perhaps mythical) vault where Russ Hampshire stashed the banned Chloe footage. My point is that (as an example) Julia Ann could have done a double anal for Wicked and you all would never know about it (I am not saying she did) because Wicked would have never released it due to their company and distribution "rules". The companies have the final say on what goes into the scenes. Therefore in some instances a girl might come out from under contract and seem like she has "changed", "become nastier" or been forced to "step up her game" when really she hasn't you are just seeing a more unedited side of her performances. Also when you are dealing with girls around 30 you might start to see the natuaral changes every woman goes through...the dirty 30's as some say. I know I started to want to experiment more and try new things and nastier sex somewhere around 29 and 30. And it continued to progress. Women's hormones are keyed that way, that's just life. So again, it might not be "stepping up the game" it might be a natural progression in personal experimentation. These women are possibly blossoming sexually right before your very eyes and you are misdiagnosing it! These girls like Julia Ann and Lisa Ann, their options are not limited. They could work contstantly if they wanted. They are legends. They have names. Names and legends sell movies. However I assume, like myself, they don't want to work doing scenes every day like we used to back when we were new to the business. We have been there, done that. Also consider that these girls have other endeavors that keep them busy...Lisa has a talent angency among other ventures and Julia is a top makeup artist. They don't need to make movies to make ends meet, they like myself, might be (gasp!) doing it for fun! Now, all that being said in defense, there are also some girls who aren't like that and don't fall into these categories above. But I feel that I can speak for these two (as well as myself); they are strong, tough, successful women in other areas of their lives beyond performing. They have just chosen to share their blossoming sexuality with you instead of keeping it for their private lives. Appreciate it. If you don't like it, don't watch it, there are plenty of other things to watch in porn. That's the beauty of this business.
I only have one thing to say about this. Hypothetically, if someone worked for a company that they knew would never release or allow harder edged sex in their movies, why would they even bother to perform it? What would be the point? Why would the director waste the time to shoot it knowing full-well that the company would never let it see the light of day? I don't claim to know everything but it just seems highly unlikely. I will agree, of course, with the fact that a girl could have had a wilder, sluttier side all along but we just never got to see it because she wasn't allowed, for whatever reason, to really show it. Hell, we prefer to believe that about our favorite, more vanilla contract girls. No one fantasizes that a pornstar isn't nasty.I agree with this as well. What we are seeing is a natural human progression. In women, I'd like to think there is usually some sort of a catalyst, though: ending a failing relationship, meeting a more adventurous partner, making and hanging out increasingly with more sexually uninhibited friends...maybe just plain boredom. Who knows? Or like Kylie says, years of having "restrictions" placed on you is bound to make someone feel the need to bust loose. I think we're lucky to have this metamorphosis documented on video.Precisely what I was getting at when I asked earlier, "do you really believe that she [Julia Ann and Lisa Ann]can't get steady work...?" That's why I started this thread about them specifically. I couldn't care less about IR or anal "firsts" or any of that where it concerns newbies or flash-in-the-pan talent. My interest stemmed from the fact that Lisa Ann and Julia Ann are, to me at least, like Kylie stated legends in the business. So their similar career paths and current courses of action intrigued me. [Link]
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 6:03PM
If I was the director or cameraman, I wouldn't stop shooting or kill the action, usable or not. There must be a nice collection of "private stock" footage in the personal vaults of many of these guys. Besides, if you have a flow going, why interfere? You can edit later, which they would do in any case. It's only tape.
Of course if I were the director or the cameraman I'd keep shooting. I'm talking about the female talent. If I'm Julia Ann and I know there's no point in me being DP'd for Wicked, chances are I wouldn't do it if the only place it was gonna end up is either Wicked's storage closet or at the home of the director who shot me that day. I'm not suggesting that a girl can't just get the urge on-set but chances are I'd find somewhere private to get down, not do it in front of the camera when I'm supposed to be "working" and it's all hitting the cutting room floor anyway. [Link]
Well Ironically Julia Ann and Lisa Ann have each starred in Lex Milf Magnet 1 and 2 respectively. But thus besides the point. I always saw Julia Ann as another Star wrapped up in cotton wool for too long and never cared for her work. So when I first checked her out in MILF magnet I was not impressed by her performance.She appeard to struggle with the scene and I felt Gonzo porn was not her thing.I reluctantly checked out a few more of her scenes after that Lex letdown and began to notice some gradual improvements.Her recent scenes have much more fire and she talks dirty more than ever. Personally I don't think she always had it in her and I may use the explanation given by Kylie Ireland. Kylie mentioned how women begin to experience changes from a certain age and begin to experiment more.So perhaps that explains why she has become more daring in her work and is now easily handling well hung young studs.Three years ago she would have struggled. So Yes I have become a fan of hers(Julia Ann) and admire how she has made a very sucessful transition from a mediocre performer to being a fully fledged Gonzo performer. As for the other Ann, I believe she always had it in her and I don't remember seeing any bad scenes from her. But then again Its just my take on this topic. Edited by - messhuga on 9/28/2008 7:30:05 PM
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 8:00PM
Oh, I agree with both picman and CJ. And perhaps my example was a bit overblown for the point I was trying to make. Yes, back in my VCA days I certainly wouldn't bother doing something that would get cut out, there was no point, that is why they discuss the "rules" ahead of time; for instance a company might not allow choking, pissing or fisting...and performers and directors cover that before the scene. But I can say I vividly remember shooting for Vivid in the outdoor 4 way/DP in "Layout" and I hopped off Jerry's cock and turned around for an ATM and as I went to shove his cock down my throat the cameraman stopped shooting and said "no ATM's". It threw off my whole rhythum and surprised me. Why not just shoot it and cut it in post instead of hindering and derailing a hot scene? Another time, years ago, I was working with Chloe and Tony Tedeschi in a VCA movie (can't remember the name right now) and as I was fingering Chloe she kept asking for more fingers and then she asked me to fist her. Who was I to say no? Next thing you know I was closed-fist fucking her pussy. It was hot. She had an orgasm. I think they shot it anyways but I wasn't paying attention really to anything except fucking Chloe. I guarantee that never made it in the movie. But the fact that they let us do it - rolling or not - made us hot and we were even more into the scene than before. If they were rolling it was probably 3-4 minutes of tape. In fact a couple months ago I was performing in a scene for Anabolic, Tony T. was directing and I was working with John Strong and Steven French. I was supposed to be doing anal with both guys but I was all hot and bothered and during a break (battery change or after still photos or something) I asked the boys to DP me. They were happy to oblige and when Tony T realized what we were doing he of course wanted to shoot it and I told him to chill out, this is for ME, a minute or so later after I came we went back to what we were shooting before. That was a great scene, and allowing a moment to do that certainly didn't do anyone any harm. Often when shooting for companies that shoot softcore, girls will put the cock in their pussy and pretend it's anal (oh, yes! Fuck my ass!) or not have it in at all (which I find uncomfortable and annoying, all that rubbing). My own little joke is that when a director calls for "softcore" I say "softcore means anal!" But that's me and I am kinda a dirty girl. (Don't believe me? Some guys I have done that with recently are Derrick Pierce, Christian and TJ Cummings.) As a director I believe that letting the talent have some hot fun, even if it is something like say, fisting, that the company won't release, is harmless. It makes for a hot scene and that's the whole point right? As long as it isn't something that is an enormous waste of time (locations are by the hour ya know!) and everyone involved is cool with it then why not? Anyways, the point is that you can't always sell the perfomer short by what you have seen in movies, she might have been a very dirty girl the whole time but what you see in the scene is the edited version. Likewise it can go the other way too: I remember seeing a very nasty Tera Patrick before she went under contract. Stephanie Swift (who I adore) is another example of an extreme performer who appeared to get more mellow under contract. I think Bree Olsen is another. Were these cases of a nasty girl who stayed nasty but was made to appear more tame by the company releases? Or was it a dirty girl who was doing what she thought she should do in movies but then when she got a contract was relieved to not have to feel pressured to perform more extreme acts? My point is that every girl has a different reason and her own story as to why she does what and that it's not fair to lump them into a genre because of their recent performances. Sheesh, I wrote another novel. I must be long-winded today. I digress. Back to the topic previously in progress.
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 8:25PM
Okay, one more quick thing. I am not saying that this is Julia's case but what you, Messhuga, said above is the case with me. When I came into the adult biz I was pretty vanilla. Oh, I liked sex, don't get me wrong but I didn't care for anal... and really alot of the other things that are common now weren't as common in the late 90's, like rough sex, slapping, choking, spitting etc., so they weren't really an issue, performing wise. I didn't realize it while it was happening, but looking back now I see it clearly. As I approached 30 my tastes started changing sexually, what I masturbated to was different, my scenes took on a different flavor and my husband and I grew apart sexually. I began to realize that I was going from "not minding anal" (while under contract for VCA) to REALLY liking it. When free of my contract, (and around the same time, my marriage) I went nuts...much of it off camera. I discovered rough sex in my personal life, and fisting. In my search for more extreme things I talked with Chloe (who was my best friend and my sponsor...I was newly sober) and she hooked me up with a friend of hers as a booty call - that was Eli Cross. He showed me BDSM and continued to let me embrace my inner whore. Jewel DeNyle - she knew what I liked since we had fucked off camera a couple times - gave me the free reign to explore that inner whore on camera and behind the camera...the rest is history I guess. I have since seen many of my friends approach and pass 30 and have similar experiences and changes and cravings. Like I said, I can't speak for either Lisa or Julia, but that is my progression and my theory.
Messhuga??? That's EXACTLY what I described in one of my previous posts above: "In women, I'd like to think there is usually some sort of a catalyst, though: ending a failing relationship (a contract and/or a marriage in your case), meeting a more adventurous partner (Eli Cross), making and hanging out increasingly with more sexually uninhibited friends (Chloe, Jewel DeNyle)..." I mean, did I nail it or did I fuckin' nail it? I want CREDIT, Kylie. And anal. Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 9/28/2008 8:34:16 PM
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 9:04PM
I would give you credit but that's not correct in my case (and you cut off the beginning of my paragraph in your quote which changed the context some): For me those events all happened after I started changing. These events in my life didn't cause the changes in my sexual quest. In fact, they happened because of my changes. The contract ending, marriage ending, Chloe, sobriety, meeting Eli and Jewel...all after I started becoming aware of what I wanted sexually. I believe my hormones changing were the catalyst for my life changing. The anal we can discuss but I won't give you credit since I disagree. Edited by - kylie ireland on 9/28/2008 9:08:05 PM Edited by - kylie ireland on 9/28/2008 9:09:06 PM
I s'pose you're right (but I was damn close and in someone's case, even if it's not you specifically, I know I'm right). It's a shame that it's easier to get anal from you than credit but hey, I'm not gonna complain. But I'm with picman: let's get that Kink.com story. [Link]
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Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 2:14AM
Sweet, Nasty, AWESOME Kylie...I LOVE YOU!!! PLEASE keep writing novels, as you give me inspiration to post on my own- without being self-conscious! (I WAS SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU & ELI DIRECTING ME IN MY 2ND SCENE EVER!!! (& 8th, 150th,& 200th...) lol! YOU ROCK!!!
Actually CJ the fact that it wasn't "world news" may be a good thing. If IR was looked at more as a typical scene rather than an event more girls would probably do so. [Mod edit: Hey Rico - try not to quote the whole post, especially when it's a really long one like CJ's was. Instead just grab some parts that are necessary for your response, and crop the rest, like I've done for you here. Thanks.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 9/29/2008 5:31:25 PM
Love is a strong word for someone I've never met, but Kylie and Eli have a special place in my heart. Like Kylie, I have changed as I've gotten older. I used to like "pretty girl" porn. But my ex- hated porn, so for many years, I didn't watch it. As we were getting divorced, I got a couple of pretty vanilla titles (like I Dream of Jenna), but I didn't turn into a real porn-dog (again) until I checked out out Corruption. It, and Kylie, rocked my world. This marked a real shift in my porn taste. I still like porn from companies like DP and Wicked. I still love pretty girls. But I have become a fan of hard-core porn, and I have come to appreciate women like Kylie, who bring genuine sexual energy to their performances. In that one movie, Kylie made me cum three times. She and Eli have done more than anyone else to shift my taste in porn.
Julia Ann, even if she wasn't a contract girl, i doubt she would have did much interracial in her prime. Lisa Ann, shes listed as being italian, you know how they hate on brothas. You always gotta be little bit surprised seeing an italian girl do interracial and her family not caring.
Actually, I'd say Julia Ann is in her sexual prime right now.Well, you can't really speculate on how Lisa Ann's family may or may not feel about her doing interracial or anything else. Not to mention to assume that most Italians are racist is racist. I know quite a few Italians, I'm black and they've been some of my best and most thoughtful friends. [Link]
Don't get me wrong: I wish that doing IR wasn't considered "sexually adventurous." I personally don't consider fucking a girl outside of my race any different than fucking one who is the same race. I just don't see things that way. Skin color, religion...all that stuff are noticeable differences, yes, but they make no more difference to me than the differences myself and someone else may share in music or movies, etc. People are people, people. But Rico, man, I don't make the rules, I just play by'em. So yeah, sadly, The Anns doing IR is world news to some. [Link]
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Posted - Sep 30 2008 : 9:15PM
Great thread CJ. I love Lisa Ann and Julia is very sexy too. Good for them for going out there and pleasing black cocks and likely enjoying the changeup too. It's always nice to hear about beautiful women like this indulging and exploring areas that they may not have before. Has Carmel Moore ever done IR? Holly West? A little offtopic but I really can't recall anything with these girls with black cock. Thanks for the pictures and links.
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Posted - Oct 2 2008 : 4:29AM
I don't know, I haven't talked to Teri and don't actually know her personally, but according to her myspace page, yes, she does. I believe you are the one who keeps emailing me trying to get me to shoot a gangbang with Teri...and I will put this out there again; if she does indeed want to do that or something similar, she is welcome to contact me about it I will talk to her. I am a pretty easy person to find.
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Posted - Oct 2 2008 : 5:10AM
Hi Kylie (and everyone else on this thread.) I am very impressed with your "novels" as you say. However, they are entertaining and provocative so I keep reading to the last drop. They don't feel long winded, because they maintain my interest, and ... I could read more. You and I never actually worked together, but our paths and partners have crossed over time. I see ... you are doing well! And I am happy for you. You know, we share the same interests? I like your sex-positive attitude towards both girls recent revved up performances. I think we, i.e. the viewers, tend to lump or categorize a tad too much. For example, "Girls who don't to IR are racist" Or "Girls who don't do anal hate it". These are such random generalizations with no real acceptance for different folks and their different strokes. I think, in addition to all your great observations of the female sexual progression, in Julia Ann's case I would like to suggest one more reason for "the change". Back in the day of the dinosaurs when I was taking my last bow at curtain call, Julia Ann was finding her feet. She had not been chosen by Vivid as part of the Blondage team. Big mistake by the way. She was instead independently climbing the ladder of prestigious porn. She worked with top notch companies, always got the box and continued to model for big name magazines like Penthouse. Back then, you know, it was different. A girl that did a menu of seemingly dirty things, would have had more trouble attaining the contract crown and all the glory that came with. Perhaps now, with the contracts, Blondage aspirations, and other hopes for a time of more glorious and porn career behind her; she is simply letting her hair down. In other words; what does she have to lose at this stage of the game? She's already faced the reality of the normal world, the reality of the Xrated world. She's still a huge name, an icon in the industry. She's also dealt with the comments, and put downs, the failed relationships and the difficulties in both worlds. So ... why not fuck like a dirty whore with the end of the world in sight? Maybe she is enjoying, drinking, bathing, wallowing in the only industry that has ever really cradled her. YES I agree with all the things you have said, in oodles; but in addition, perhaps the girl simply has nothing to lose and is for once, really enjoying it for what it is; not atop a gold gilded thrown, but wrestling naked down in the mud like everyone else? Until ....... Thanks for your posts and droplets of wisdom (The former) Sarah Jane Hamilton x
Well Carmel Moore does IR in England where the landscape is rather different to the US. I don't know much about Holly West though.
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Posted - Oct 2 2008 : 8:54AM
Is Teri Weigel looked at as being on the same level as Lisa Ann and Julia Ann. I think that was what the real question was. I know Teri is a full time prostitute and Lisa Ann and Julia Ann don't play that game. But is Teri Weigel looked at as being on the same level as the 2 Ann's in the industry?
I don't think Teri Weigel is on the same level as Lisa Ann and Julia Ann. Lisa and Julia are in the elite of Pornstars; Teri without the original status of Playboy Playmate would just be another one of 1,000's of girls in porn.
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Posted - Oct 4 2008 : 10:08AM
Agreed. Teri Weigel isn't anything special.
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Posted - Oct 4 2008 : 2:24PM
+1 Lisa Ann and Julia Ann are some of the most classy and elite, actually Super Pornstar's. They keep on trying new things to keep them at the top of their game. Where as Teri Weigel is more of a just a prostitute then Super Pornstar; she does the same scene over and over again [mainly as an name recognition for her service].
I agree to, +1. Teri Weigel is more of a C-List Porn Star, only in the adult business because of Playboy label. A-List[Always have a huge fan base even if they take time off, always generate a buzz in the adult world, classic beautiful pornstars always doing new types of scenes] = Julia Ann, Lisa Ann, Janine, Tera Patrick, Nina Hartley, Carmella Bing, etc. B-List[Either on the fast track up to A or down to C, have the potential to move up and have staying power at the A level] = Devon, Belladonna, Gina Lynn, Lanny Barbie, Rachel Roxxx, Velocity Von, etc. C-List[Had the potential to be big time, but seem to be miss managed, aren't really into the adult biz, work only when they need money, poor performances on film usually, or have big ego's about themselves] = Teri Weigel, Harley Raine, Amy Reid, Angel Cassidy, Mason Storm, etc.
I'll be the first to admit that I don't care for Amy Ried but I wouldn't call her C-List. I don't agree that Carmella Bing is A-List. Belladonna is an A-List pornstar in my book. By your definition I'd sure put VELICITY VON where your other C-level stars reside and Devon is pretty much on her way. She had her time on the A-List but those days, I think, are over. [Link]
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Posted - Oct 6 2008 : 5:35PM
Interesting... My wife grew up in Southern Italy (Brindisi) and found the general populace a bit more color blind than certain counterparts here in the States... Edited by - DM/PR on 10/6/2008 5:36:14 PM
Interesting... My wife grew up in Southern Italy (Brindisi) and found the general populace a bit more color blind than certain counterparts here in the States... Edited by - DM/PR on 10/6/2008 5:36:14 PM [/quote] Well as a person who does follow Euro Soccer I found out that Southern Italians tended to be way more Racist that Northern Italians. There is plenty of Docos on Youtube about Black African Soccer playes being racially abused by Italian Crowds and the worst abuse they endured was always in Southern Italy. According to my own experiances dealing with Italians,I feel they either come out as very tolerant or very racist.There is no in between. Again this is just from my own personal experiences with Italians.
i've been a very, very wicked girl. 110 Posts 8/07
Posted - Oct 10 2008 : 1:43AM
uh oh. no DPs at wicked?? i'm in trouble. AGAIN. any of you guys see Julia Ann Hardcore? it's from Wicked, and may explain things a bit for you. her narrative is great.
Jessica Drake, Since you decided to just this discusion I was wondering if you and/or any other Wicked contract girls who haven't done it yet are going to do an ir scene, preferably an ir anal scene? alexl467
Posted - Sep 27 2008 : 12:03PM
Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on Sep 27 2008
