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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 2:46AM
OK, so I went to Nudes a Poppin AGAIN...
There's always cute naked guys there posing for pictures, so I took a bunch of video of them.

They're not allowed to masturbate for the cameras, so I took pics of them in their natural states, which is pretty darned impressive anyway.
Most of them are professional strippers, so I also videotaped their stage shows.

Are there any of you out there who are interested in watching this type of video? I myself like watching male stripper videos, but the best for me is when they are able to touch themselves also. Would it be too boring for you if they can't?

If there's certain things about these videos that you REALLY like to see (or not see), please let me know. I'm going to Nudes a Poppin again in August, and I would like to videotape the guys again.
If I can get enough good video, I am planning on editing a 60 minute VHS and 90 minute DVD to release later this year (combining the July and August shows.)

Also, does it seem like most of the videos of this type are kind of ambiguous as to whether they are trying to target gay men or horny women in order to broaden their market?

GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 3:13AM
Maybe I'm jaded, but I like my strip shows live, up close & personal. I can't stuff dollar bills into the TV screen. I like the softcore DVDs Arousal, Moments with Johan and the Boy: Collection (a set of discs, Boy 1 through Boy 4) but they don't keep my attention for long. I'll play them when my BF is over for dinner. Then after dinner, we switch to the hard stuff (or put on a show of our own)!

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 9:10AM
Not being able to jerk off is a major bummer, but can they bend over and spread their ass cheeks for the camera??
Janitor
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 9:19AM
Tricia - can you add in some extra masturbation scenes? Maybe bring a few of the guys back to your hotel? Maybe even leave the guy alone with the camera on a tripod in a room?
netguy
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 11:03AM
Did I miss something? Whats Nudes a Poppin?

I don't mind the softcore if it's done well, sometimes its a big tease though....not big on stripper videos....rather see them in person.....

 
dumblonde
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 12:56PM
quote Steph: "Tricia - can you add in some extra masturbation scenes? Maybe bring a few of the guys back to your hotel?"

Netguy, Nudes A Poppin is a non-hardcore series of female (so far) strippers put out by Tricia's co.
Evil Angel.

GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 6:57PM
I really hate to put a negative cast on the project, but if the guys are going to do nothing more than put on a softcore strip stage show, they are going to have to be at least a "12" to "15" on a scale of 1 to 10 in both the looks and sex appeal categories.

I own some 200+ gay porn videotapes and another 75+ porn DVDs. Of those, only 3 are j/o videos (1 from Dirk Yates & 2 from Kristen Bjorn) and only 2 (or 5, depending on how you count) are softcore (I have Arousal & I have the Boy Collection, 1~4 - both purchased at a deep discount, $25 and $40 (for the set of 4 discs), respectively).

This is just my view from my own perspective and based on what I see on the shelves of brick & mortar operations and in the catalogs of online venders. I suspect that my buying habits are not atypical. I have no idea what the female audience for a softcore male stripper video would be.

~ GaySatyr

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 21 2001 : 11:10PM
I wish I could add some stuff that was taped in private, but our contract with the nudist colony where it's hosted says that we're not allowed to associate it with any hardcore images (on the specific disc, or even through trailers.) They did, however, let us put pics of the girls in John's hardcore magazaine, Buttman magazine.

Anyway, it wouldn't be priced anywhere NEAR what a gay feature DVD is priced at. Evil Angel has yet to venture into the gay market, and this is my first step into hoping that it will happen. As a guess, the DVD would probably sell online for $25-$35.

To elaborate on Nudes a Poppin, it's mostly a stripper competition and show where guys go to watch the girls be naked all day long. The girls bend over and pose, but there is no simulation of sexual activities, not even female masturbation.
There are usually 10-20 males who also compete in events like Male Feature Entertainer, Best Male Body, Male Go-go Dancing, etc.
But like John with the girls, my favorite part of the day is going around to the guys and talking to them, asking them where they're from, and getting some candid posing for the video and still camera. In August, I'm going to have to be much more agressive and less shy with the guys because I get tongue-tied.

My hope is that males (and maybe females too) would rent this DVD and use it to set the mood of an intimate night with their BF. (That's what John and I do with his version of Nudes a Poppin.) Then, when the atmosphere is going strong, it's time to put in harder stuff.

Oh yeah-- yes, they can bend over if they want. Not all of them will (just like not all of the girls there will), but some will. I was too shy to ask in July, but I'll have a beer or two in August to loosen me up a little!

quote Steph: "Tricia - can you add in some extra masturbation scenes? Maybe bring a few of the guys back to your hotel?" Man, the feeling I'm getting right now is exactly why I kept missing some good shots. I kept getting shy. These guys are too cute.

Planet Sex
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Posted - Jul 22 2001 : 12:02AM
Tricia,

I can give you a little hint about the brazilian market for this kind of movie. In 1991, a company I worked for released a tape of male strips only. No masturbation scenes, only dance and full montys. The sales were very good.

Of course, that was a DECADE ago. Things changed a lot since then.

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Hobbesi
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Posted - Jul 22 2001 : 12:19AM
I really love stripper videos.. but I seem to be in a small minority since its diffacult to find movies with stripper scenes let alone a whole film of them. (save films by PlayGirl , Groonwood/Cooper etc) its easier to find hardcore fetishes like Fisting and WS then stripper movies

I have NEVER seen a hardcore stripper video (guys strip+jerk off on stage) and i've only seen one or two scenes like that in the hundreds of agy porn videos i've watched .. I would be first in line for a video like that..

joeblow69
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Posted - Jul 22 2001 : 9:36AM
Tricia,

Would it be all dancing strippers? The whole "dancing" thing doesn't do much for me, but here's what I would love:

One of the things that is always missing from regular porn is guys stripping. If they start the scene wearing any clothes at all, somehow, it usually just disappers at some point.

I LOVE to see guys slowly get undressed for the camera. Get a hunky guy in a three piece suit to slowly strip down, and make sure he isn't wearing any goofy underwear, like a gstring or something. It's much hotter when they wear normal underwear (like tighty whities or boxer briefs)... it makes the guys seem more real. This would be a great thing to shoot back at the hotel room, without all the dancing lights and music!

Then once he's naked, send him into the shower where you can get lots of shots of him lathering up. And don't forget to shoot his penis flopping around while he towels off! hmmm.... I don't suppose you need an assistant director or anything???

GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 22 2001 : 11:27AM
Now JB's version of a strip show, I'd like too! Half-a-dozen or so guys who are really hot and come of as real, each with a different theme. That would be unique & I'd probably buy it, too.

~ GaySatyr

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 23 2001 : 2:55AM
JB- that's something that I would love to shoot. But that's for a whole different video, which I'd have to hire each guy for individually. That type of video could include lots of tease and really focus on both the guy's personality and body. And if I hired the guys specifically for that video, then I could hire the ones who would also jerk-off for the camera after the striptease.

But for the one I'm thinking of, to get an idea of what I'm talking about, maybe look at the reviews of Nudes a Poppin 9, 10, and 11- the ones out on the females.

Yes, it's all to music. None of the stuff on stage would be a "scene" where I could control what's going on. It's all Chippendales shows type things. I can control a little bit with some of the candid shots of the guys as they're just standing around. I can ask them to flex for me and tease for the camera.
Unfortunately, for some reason, professional male strippers all seem to have the notion that they have to wear g-strings.

nude_and_proud
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Posted - Jan 1 2005 : 10:42AM
Tricia,

I have been searching for years for a DVD of male go-go dancing. I work as a go-go dancer in nightclubs in the UK but I'm not very good - I don't have the "moves" I see other dancers doing and I've been trying for ages to find someone or something from which I can learn them.

For years now I've been looking for a DVD with moves I can copy (the DVD format is easier to use than VHS for rewinding and slow motion because the VHS tape will stretch and become unplayable after a while).

So I, for one, would love the DVD you're offering. I also think that this would make a good mood-dvd for parties etc that can play in the background.

I used to have a tape I really liked called Allfish (there was also boyfish and girlfish) which had nude girls and boys swimming underwater in a huge water tank set up with a sort of drowned greek city diorama all set to to a relaxing soundtrack. The company that made it, Dangerous to Know, doesn't seem to exist anymore which is a shame as I'd love a copy on DVD.

Please let me know if you do decide to release a male go-go dancing disk - I want a copy!

Kind Regards
Ash Young

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