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Matt47
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417 Posts
1/04
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 10:23AM
I have seen two new books out which cover the porn industry and was curious to know if anyone here has browsed them yet (or even read cover to cover)? The first I thought about getting was "Naked Ambition", a anthology of essays collected by Carly Milne. There are contributions from Tristan Taormino and Violet Blue, two of my favorite women involved in porn, as I find them insightful and funny. I also noticed another release, "The Big Book of Porn" by Seth Grahame-Smith, which is colorful, glossy overview of the industry's history. I flipped through it this weekend at the bookstore when I was there with my wife, but for some reason decided against taking up to counter! Darn all those families around me on a busy Saturday afternoon... anywho, there looked to be some fun chapters included. Any thoughts on these? :)
davecummings
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368 Posts
12/02
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 1:08PM
I'm presently keeping notes to jog my memory for writing a book down-the-road which will be an autobiography and an insider's view and experiences of my (still-ongoing) time as a porn performer/director/producer. Tentatively, my "barn" title is "From Altar Boy to Porn Star".

Dave Cummings

Matt47
Member

417 Posts
1/04
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 1:46PM
I'd read that, sounds like a winner!
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 11:09AM
I just picked up "Cinema Hard" by Vittoria Perzan. It is a photography book of shots taken on various porn sets in Italy - Lucy Love and Steve Holmes are on the cover. The pictures are done in a glossy "Private" magazine style (except without all those mid-air cumshot captures), although it is even more artsy fartsy and also includes some behind the scenes shots. An example of the style is one photo with an out of focus erect penis in the foreground, and a naked porn girl taking a break and having a swig out of a water bottle in the background.

There are some really great shots of Angel Dark, Lucy Love, Ellen Saint, Claudia Rossi, Monica Sweetheart, et al.

There is also some interesting titbits in an interview with the photographer, Vittoria Perzan. She talks about gaining access to porn sets and having to dress down and look scruffy when she takes photographs on set or the actresses tend to get stroppy with her. There is also this interesting comment:

"But I also think that it's true to say that if you are not taking part in the sex yourself, you will be aware of this quite off-putting, almost 'hormonal' smell that sometimes occurs when the actors are having sex. It's not sweat, it's almost chemical, this thing that happens when two bodies are locked together in the sexual act. If you're there from the beginning you probably wouldn't notice it, but if you come into the room from the outside, you certainly do! Maybe it's similar to that smell of fear that adrenalin produces."

The book is generally positive of the porn industry and poses the question of pornography as high class art.

nipfan
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caught!
271 Posts
10/01
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 3:15PM
Legs Mcneil's "The Other Hollywood" seems to be a good read. It's at my library, but I've only read the first couple chapters.

Here's a review from Publisher's Weekly,

This compulsively readable book perfectly captures the pop culture zeitgeist. It doesn't hurt that the history of American pornography is inextricably intertwined with all the subjects that captivate us: sex, drugs, beauty, fame, money, the Mafia, law enforcement and violence. McNeil (Please Kill Me) focuses on the industry's dark underbelly: suicide (Savannah), fratricide (the Mitchell brothers), Mafia hits (John Gotti whacked Robert DiBernardo, the mob's point man in the porn business) and gangland slayings (John Holmes). But beyond the scintillating subject, it's McNeil's skillful technique that elevates this oral history, coauthored by journalists Osborne and Pavia, above the tedium of a courtroom transcript.
Most chapters contain multiple story lines, which McNeil cleverly weaves together by the end. And the book's two most fascinating stories—about the making of Deep Throat and the Traci Lords child pornography case—involve unreliable narrators, which gives them a Rashomon-like quality. In the case of Deep Throat, the movie that catapulted hardcore pornography into the mainstream, its star, Linda Lovelace, claims she was forced to perform in the movie, though everyone else connected to the film contradicts her. As for Lords, her detractors make a compelling argument that far from being the victim she portrays herself to be in her book, she deceived the industry about her age so she could make a fortune and leverage her sob story into a mainstream Hollywood career. Whether recounting high-profile scandals or answering trivia about the origins of porn films and lap dancing, this is a relentlessly gripping read. B&w photos.

 
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 5:51PM
Where did you buy it from and how much was it? I'm in Australia too...

Edited by - joey starr on 1/25/2006 5:52:31 PM

Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 5:56PM
the other hollywood
Very good if you're into the history of porn as i am. I've heard there are issue about how true some of the quotes are though.
avn guide to 500 greatest adult films of all time
A compilation of 500 of their reviews. Depends if you trust AVN in the first place. I like it for the read not so much as a guide
the big book of porn
Very nice book. Reminded me of when mainstream mags cover porn though- focused on the big stars/features. Seems like a casual guide not so much for the hardcore porn fan.


Edited by - Tinaka on 1/25/2006 6:01:10 PM

phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 8:50PM
A great thread topic that always needs refreshing. A lot of these books are hard to find at Borders however.

Edited by - phatbasey on 1/25/2006 8:51:17 PM

de25ge
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yes I'm virilis
954 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 8:54PM
Is there a list of the 500 top AVN movies out there on the net?
Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 25 2006 : 9:06PM
it's not actually a chart just a list a alphabetical order. The hall of fame and past avn award winner is also inluded.
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jan 26 2006 : 4:41AM
I ordered it direct from the publisher The Erotic Print Society in London. They have three different editions of the book ranging in price from about 20 UK pounds for the basic book to 80 UK pounds for deluxe binding (including an autographed print from the book).

I note that both Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk have the book available on pre-order (with a February 6 2006 release date) at a slightly cheaper price - about US $25 and 14 UK pounds, respectively.

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jan 26 2006 : 5:31AM
Thanks!
kierkegaard
Loose Cannon

185 Posts
8/05
Posted - Jan 26 2006 : 9:29AM
Has anyone read this or this ?
Worth picking up?
Faunus
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208 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jan 26 2006 : 6:38PM
Can anyone tell me if the AVN Top 500 is worth reading?
todhunternet
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Burbank
38 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jan 26 2006 : 11:31PM
The reviews I wrote are, although the originals were better before the ham-handed editing.

I have a copy of The Other Hollywood , but there are too many quotes by the former publisher of AVN for the book to have any credibility.

--t

tod-hunter.net. Porn. Politics. Mainstream.

Edited by - todhunternet on 1/26/2006 11:32:03 PM

 
Steve Holmes
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1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jan 28 2006 : 6:09AM
First of all, "she" is a Trany. I remember "her" taking pictures when I worked for Andraea Nobili in May 2005. All this talking about "her" having to dress down and the "smell of sex" is really bullshit.

Steve Holmes

de25ge
Member

yes I'm virilis
954 Posts
11/05
Posted - Jan 28 2006 : 11:08AM
Cuddly Wombat
Senior Member

Just another bare bum in the shiower
1739 Posts
12/04
Posted - Jan 28 2006 : 11:33AM
I had my suspicions, but thought it polite not to comment without firsthand confirmation. Thanks for the confirmation, Steve!
JEWEL (imposter)
Jewel De'Nyle

736 Posts
1/06
Posted - Jan 28 2006 : 12:26PM
Naked Ambition is really well done.
Matt47
Member

417 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 30 2006 : 1:32PM
That is certainly on my Wish list, but I also was curious about the books by Tristan Taormino and if I should check out any of those?
tricia_devereaux
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Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
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Posted - Jan 30 2006 : 4:26PM
I have Naked Ambition, the AVN Guide to the 500 Greatest Adult Films of All Time, The Other Hollywood, The Big Book of Porn, and Pornucopia.

For interesting insights on porn, I recommend Naked Ambition or Pornucopia.

For a partial fact/partial fiction book which is more a compilation of interviews from past journalists, you could read The Other Hollywood.

The AVN one is good if you are a big porn watcher and want to see some great movies which you may have missed. The top 10 lists make it interesting, but there aren't any anecdotes about the porn business.

The Big Porn of Porn is very pretty to look at and a very entertaining read. I'm a little biased in my one complaint though: the '5 modern classics' are listed as Loaded, Les Vampyres, Misty Beethoven: The Musical, Sex Angels and Repo Girl. Does anyone really thing that more than 2 of those movies will be talked about more than 5 years from now? Somehow Fashionistas, listed in pretty much every other top 10 list I've seen, is not mentioned once in the entire book. C'est la vie.

skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 30 2006 : 10:03PM
I enjoyed reading the Legs book (I was recovering from surgery, and appropriately was flying high on Vicodin the whole week I was reading it).

However, I was disappointed that it was such a clip-job, esp. after all the years the book had been talked about. I also thought it was surprisingly weak in the final chapters when it dealt with people I've actually interviewed. The extensive footnotes from Luke Ford were a tad scary (though I read Luke for entertainment purposes).

There's a million stories in the Naked Valley. I'm glad he stopped where he did.

Loraine
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1559 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jan 31 2006 : 7:11AM
darkangel
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87 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 31 2006 : 9:34AM
Jackpot! Thanks Loraine.
fatalbert
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Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
576 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jan 31 2006 : 4:51PM
+1

To which I add: Bingo.




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