What the Hell Has Happened?

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Rarely does Comedy Central treat the starlets like anything other than sillyconed bimbos -- The Man Show's 'Household Hints from Pornstars' was not about household hints, it was about sniggering over Nikki Tyler's wet T-Shirt.

E! does marginally better but they don't really acknowledge what these girls do. If Serentiy was to say "And by the way, while I was here at Hedonism, I had three guys ejaculate onto my face!" you'd never see her on there again.

They want the marginal face value without dirtying themselves. When they cover the AVN Awards, they never really cover the awards -- they just show the cleavage and leave it at that because Jane Mid-America can't really comprehend what a double-anal is and why someone is getting award for doing it the best.

Jenna level fame is the exception not the norm. For as many people (outside this forum) who may know who Jenna Jameson is, how many do you think know who Jenna Haze is? Next to none.

Excellent article, Tina.

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Regards,
Rumplestilt Skin.
PS. The reason why porn has become "acceptable" is that the porn stars no longer look like porn stars. I have to confess there were few girls around in the mid 1980s who I'd class as sexy or beautiful. Today, they're all beautiful! I only wish one per cent of them lived in my neighborhood! LOL.

Edited by - Rumplestilt Skin on Jul 25 2002

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I agree, but it has come a long long way from the early days of porn. The point I was trying to make is that the mainstream popularity porn enjoys now is nothing compared to what is yet to come. You will see the day when some starlet is clever or lucky enough to find a vehical to ride into the mainstream. It may not be on NBC, but there are exposes on MTV all the time, with topics like "porn goes mainstream", having the very same disscusion we are. Think about how much more accepting the next generation of kids will, be after they have grown up watching Kid Rock. I am not suggesting that it is a slippery slope, but rather an inevitable cultural shift, because this country is shedding its sexual represion.

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Edited by - Pud on Jul 25 2002

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Whooow... now my brain hurts!

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Ten years ago, most girls (like Tina) were dancers and/or models for years before they even considered going into porn. And when they finally made the jump, they did so carefully after much thought and some research. Now it seems that the industry is being invaded by 18 year olds (not that I'm complaining) looking to be the next Jenna or Serenity. For most of them, it just won't happen. I hope they're prepared for that reality. If nothing more, I think it's safe to assume that the mainstreaming of porn has had a massive impact on the influx of younger impressionable talent...just thinking out loud.

Thanks for the brain food Tina!

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Gold Member- It's very true that the amount of notoriety has only just begun. You mention two excellent directors here, but I honestly think it's the Thomas Zupko's, Max Hardcore's and the like who keep us in the media more often. Let's face it, bad publicity is publicity just the same and the more in your face and extreme (the word not the company) a movie is, the more press it will garner.

Adult Movie FAQ- Very well put indeed. The point I was trying to make is that the need these girls have for attention is so great that they don't care what kind of attention it is as long as their name is spelled correctly.

Rumplestilt Skin- Better looking women is also a contributing factor to mainstream acceptance, if on a smaller scale.

Kimi- Now you know you're not alone

Pud- Thank you! I couldn't agree more with what you said. I considered talking about the Shock Porn phenomenon in the piece, but I only have so much room to fill and I would have been typing into the next millenium.

aybesea- Nice! Throughout history the sexual freedom pendulum has been swinging with wild abandon. Queen Victoria's reign was in direct opposition to her predecessor, for example, this is truly just another swing of that pendulum.

Dr. Mabuse- You make an excellent point here... God, you're all so darned smart!!!
So many of these lovely 18-year-olds haven't done the research, never watched a movie, never looked at a magazine, etc. BUT they have seen Jenna and Serenity and think, that could be me and it seems a much easier route to that fame than acting classes, endless auditions, and mountains of rejection. In porn rejection is a rarity. If you're halfway cute and willing to do anything, you've got a career. What they don't know is a career in porn is very short lived (with a scant few exceptions) and life after porn is very disheartening.

Thanks so much for opening up such a lively and intellegent discussion... maybe there is hope for porn after all!!

Tina

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I too see an alarming trend such as Pud describes, yet no one else seems to want to talk about it. Perhaps you could give us your thoughts on this in a future column?

Keep up the excellent work
DB

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Regards,
Rumplestilt Skin.

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Great article. It's always good to see someone in the industry who can not only think for herself, but can speak so elloquently.

As a relative newcomer to the industry, I have found most of the actresses I work with take their job very seriously. They put as much effort into the dialogue part of the shoot as they do the sex. The best performers to work with are those who understand what they are doing and why.

Since all the videos I have been involved with are lesbian oriented, I haven't had to face the "wood" problem yet. As a cinematographer I spend most of my time trying to make everyone look good. If there is a break in the action on the set, it just means I have more time to adjust the lighting!

Thanks again for the article and the insight.

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