Wow, she is hot!! So many girls in porn these days who are just so naturally beautiful words can't describe. Think Paulina James, Lela Star etc. She fits in this category as well. And she swallows too, can't wait to see her get paired with Manuel, Erik or M. Stefano. Woohoo!
She is more attractive since she covered up the swastika tatoo on her ass. We gave her the benefit of the doubt and shot her. She didn't seem especially crazy. I kind of hope she was intoxicated or in love with a skinhead or something and didn't mean to do it. Anyways, it is gone now. There is a flower in its place and she does a good scene.
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 12:47AM
kids do some pretty dumb things to fit in or try to act tough most of them seem to have no clue as to what a swastika truly represented or the pain seeing one causes certain groups of people.
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 1:04AM
This is the big one Elizabeth! I'm coming to home to see you!
i was about to post about how smoking she looks but i have to admit, i did a double take at this information. gaaah. i can't get into a neo-Nazi no matter how hot she is
My company definitely wasn't going to shoot her when she had the tatoo. When she covered it, I figured we would give her the benefit of the doubt. No one that I know of has asked her about it. She is a pretty girl, and from all accounts enjoyable to work with. I would be interested to know if anyone is close to her or knows the history behind the tatoo. Hopefully, it is just history and she has moved on with her life.
i think you would have to be very dense to have a swastika tattooed on your body without having some kind of idea what it means.
wannabe badass, whatever. confused youth, whatever. that someone would even consider it comes from a place i cannot relate to nor accept. this stuff is personal for me
the neo-Nazi groups are full of confused, uneducated kids looking for something to belong to. that doesn't make me feel any kind of sympathy for them. dumb kids can do a lot of damage
the thing i want from "reformed" neo-Nazis is full transparency and renunciation of their past. i need to hear them say straight up they got into bad things, they were mistaken, they regret it, they think it's bullshit.
but in my experience many with those kinds of histories at least in the punk and hardcore scene aren't willing to do that. there remain streaks of racism, anti-Semitism and xenophobia in their thinking even when they drop the props
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 2:28AM
As for punk, as somebody who is into punk myself i don't really understand what you are driving at?
punks are mostly left leaning if anything they are anti-nationalistic and certainly anti neo nazism.
I had a shaved head in my youth but i was a typical punk which means the militaristic nationalism sprouted by nazi's is the polar opposite to what i believed.
Which is worse: (1) putting a symbol with such gravity of meaning on your body without considering its implications, or (2) being a neo-nazi? I think we can agree she is guilty of one of them.
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 2:34AM
of course it means something and no doubt it raises a red flag(did i ever say it didn't?) all is said was a heck of a lot of silly kids have no real idea what it represents.
what are you talking about? the punk and hardcore scene has been plagued by neo-Nazis and racism for a long time. does the band name Skrewdriver ring a bell?
there is a long history of neo-Nazi punk and hardcore bands, that's one of the main ways those racist groups suck in the kids. i could make a bunch of links to neo-Nazi record labels right now if i wanted to
the whole history of Oi! and skinhead music is rooted in the punk scene. i mean it goes back 30 years
you are not going to run into neo-Nazis in the techno and hip-hop scenes. but hang out in punk and hardcore and you eventually will see those elements
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 3:25AM
god you talk some utter shit, the vast majority of punks hate neo nazi's just because there is nazi punk and bands like skrewdriver all punks are nazi's?
what sort of rubbish thinking is that?
What about the hunreds of punk bands with leftist ideals?
those who are anti-racist anti fascist all their views are undone because a few bands use punk music to push neo nazi views?
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Posted - Apr 4 2007 : 3:28AM
But you will run into people who have been in violent gangs does that mean hip hop is all about gang violence and everybody involved therfore is tainted because of a few?
i did not say ALL punks and hardcore kids are neo-Nazis.
i said neo-Nazis have been in the punk and hardcore scene for a LONG TIME. they have been a part of the scene since its very beginning. this is FACT, you just don't want to hear it
man you really are fuckin dense. again - i did NOT say punk and hardcore is all about neo-Nazism.
i said: neo-Nazism has been in the punk and hardcore scene for a LONG TIME. do you deny that?
yes, gang violence DOES have a long history in the hip-hop scene. just like neo-Nazism DOES have a long history in the punk and hardcore scene.
if you hang out in hip-hop long enough, you will encounter the gang element.
and if you hang out in punk and hardcore long enough, you will encounter the neo-Nazi element. I DID. i will not get into it but i will repeat this stuff is personal to me. there are people to this day i will fight the moment i see them
you seem to want to look past that this girl had a swastika tattoo, like it's no big deal. i'm saying for me, it is a big deal. nothing you babble will change that
like i said, my principles override my dick on this.
Hey guys, we might be overlooking something else here entirely, the symbol itself has been about for a hell of a lot longer than neo-nazi's, it is widely used by the Buddist and Hindu religions; I thought i'd seen it before on some Budda statues I saw on my travels in the far east. See the following link for yourselves.
have you ever heard of a neo-Nazi rap label? a neo-Nazi reggaeton scene? why can't you just admit neo-Nazism is tied in with the punk and hardcore scene moreso than anywhere else.
i will spell this out for you because you seem too dumb to get it.
my first point was that i cannot get into a girl who is a neo-Nazi
if someone has a swastika tattoo that is cause of concern and shows contact with neo-Nazi elements
my second point was that if someone regrets their tattoo and is not a neo-Nazi they need to be clear about their renunciation of that
however in my experience that is often not the case
my third point is that i have first-hand experience with "reformed" neo-Nazis through the punk rock and hardcore scene. in which neo-Nazism has a long history
i am making sense. you are just refusing to acknowledge it
i think you are WILLFULLY being dumb about this because there is truth to what i say and you don't want to admit it
i have heard this sort of thing before. what it comes down to is that at this point in history swastikas are associated with Nazism. if someone has a swastika tattoo it demands an explanation
it is not just a "badass" thing. it is a political symbol
I was the first person to shoot Stephanie Cane and brought her to Goldstar. Maybe there was a swastika tattoo on her but she was 14 dating some fool and had no clue what it meant at the time. She's in an upcoming Lewd Conduct and Spring Chickens, I believe, but we covered it up with makeup.
Then I shot her with Hung Lo, my Asian P.A., with the swastika because without the angle, it means Peace in Chinese, I believe. I may have the only scene with the swastika on and am keeping it for myself when I launch the site.
She's a real sweet girl, perhaps did some foolish things in the past, but as sweet a girl as I've ever met. Definitely not a racist, just did something dumb when she was young.
I personally also doubt they would care if they did. I think people like Hirsch and Orenstein are more into the making money business than the making a political statement business.
I did her very first scene for Chico Wang, when she still had the swastika. After the scene I met a bunch of friends for dinner and talked about the new girl with the swastika. Three of the guys at the table were Jewish. One didn't care much, one was offended and the third got exited by the idea of fucking her with the swastika on her ass.
I'm actually surprised no director expoloited the whole tattoo thing. Like setting up a scenario where she does a scene with Herschel Savage dressed as a Chassidim for example.