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| VeronicaVain Member  33 Posts 3/15 |  Posted - Aug 21 2015 : 8:34PMHey guys -- If you've been following me then you know I've been working on a pretty interesting startup idea. As of now, we expect to launch in a few months. Basically, it is aimed at increasing the value proposition of buying porn to you guys outside of the typical subscription model, and enabling you to buy only the content you want for a much lower price point than is currently available. It will feature extremely limited advertising, an intuitive user interface and personalized, algorithm driven content offerings. It is not iTunes for porn, but there are similarities, including a personal user library on the cloud. I have invented a completely new business model catered specifically to the adult market and its current offerings. We plan to offer a mixture of scenes, movies and series with both scene thumbnails and movie covers in the mix for presentation. Look out for me in the next couple weeks on CNN Money :) Anyway, I wanted to ask you guys -- the ultimate porn consumers, what it is you most want from a platform like this as well as some general question. What are the biggest things porn is missing for you? Do you use the tube sites? Why or why not? What subscriptions do you have? What companies do you most want to see available through this delivery model? Where do you primarily watch porn - computer, tablet, phone, tv? What kind of porn would you like to see that you haven't seen yet? Thanks! VV a.k.a "Wall Street Porn Star" <3  [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 4:07AM Interesting Idea but I mostly watch DVDs or BRDs and even when I subscribe to some site I join some scenes with an editor and convert it to a DVD format. but many consumers are online viewers only , so the idea is good , actually I'm surprised it doesn't exist already , such platforms are there for almost anything else from itunes for music to Steam for videogames  [Link] |
| Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User 319 Posts 11/14 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 4:07PM [Link] |
| VeronicaVain Member 33 Posts 3/15 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 4:14PM LCF, why do you watch DVDs or BRDs only? Just habit or because you like it on the big screen? What if you could instantly stream that quality content to your TV with a Roku stick? Or will you always just be an old school guy? Maxxx, I will inquire about the difficult of bitcoin integration. I'm sure it's possible. It won't be like clips4sale because it is hardcore, professional content only and people can't just submit whatever they want. It's also not a tube site, but there will be plenty of free content so you can more easily determine if you wish to buy a scene or not. [Link] |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 4:30PM [Link] |
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| VeronicaVain Member 33 Posts 3/15 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 4:36PM 1) Price point would be much lower than those sites, and there would be no minutes to buy. 2) You can preview the videos to a certain point before deciding to buy 3) You can buy certain scenes from dvds without having to buy the whole thing 4) It would host content from sites that don't dabble in DVDs at all 5) It would be organized much better and would be easier to find who or what you want specifically without all the clutter [Link] |
| NotMyRealName Member 487 Posts 6/13 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 7:06PM Here's a few things I was thinking of when I read your post: The Ashley Madison hack has the potential to chill the industry now that its becoming more apparent everyday that no info is truly safe on the Internet. Regardless of what the companies tell you and what kind of security they are using there are just too many leaks today to think that anything is really secure. If you are considering offering a service that ties the users real name, address, telephone # etc. through financial records to an account that is charged per item and builds a database of what people's fetishes are I think this just might be too much at the moment. I think Digital Playground got hacked a few years ago too. Also AFF did too. I don't think people who are really into the things they want to see in porn have any problem locating the material online but I think a lot of people would have problems putting all that info in one place and it seems like you would need to do it like that to keep the per item charge down. Here's a good breakdown of a recent article on The Verge "Granted, streaming services like Spotify, Hulu, and Netflix have shown that the right mixture of affordability and ease of access can convert even die-hard pirates into paying customers. But mainstream music, TV, and movies have something that sets them apart from pornography: daylong binges of The Vampire Diaries aside, there's no stigma attached to consuming any of them. Porn is still largely seen as the domain of perverts, which makes it that much harder to convince people to open their wallets for it. Sure, we might lose hours and hours to XXX clips, but paying for porn suddenly transforms someone into an actual consumer of adult media; and for those that have been getting their rocks off for free for years, actually putting money down for their smut feels like a step too far." If there was going to be an innovation it would be a way of anonymizing people's payments and accounts somehow while still being responsible enough to keep underage kids off of the site. I don't think the barrier for most potential customers is being able to locate materials they would like (via the algorithm) they seem to be finding them pretty well as it is. The barrier seems to be procuring it in a manner that risks the least amount of exposure. With the present tube sites all they have to do is wipe their history if they're not in private mode and close the browser. Your service should attempt to compete on that level. Just a few thoughts, thanks! [Link] |
| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Aug 22 2015 : 10:24PM [Link] |
| qz3fwd Member 141 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Aug 23 2015 : 1:15AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Aug 23 2015 : 2:53AM But that's me , your idea is very good [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Aug 23 2015 : 8:29AM Jacco [Link] |
| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Aug 23 2015 : 9:17AM “No man’s life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session” - Mark Twain [Link] |
| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 3:40AM [Link] |
| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 7:37AM “No man’s life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session” - Mark Twain [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Aug 24 2015 : 2:40PM Women usually smile a lot, when they socially interact with guys. But you almost never see the lady smile at her guy, when he is about to take her pussy or ass. This lack of friendly interaction makes the mood of the sex harsh and even hostile, such as when the guy grabs the lady by her throat. Perhaps some guys are into rape fantasies. But this isn't my thing. I'd rather see the lady repeatedly invite her guys with a nice smile and go out of her way to make each guy feel welcome with her. Because a true slut isn't the lady who takes a guy in her butt, when he wants her. It's the lady who is so friendly with all of the guys that she makes them feel invited and welcome in bed with her, even while they are nailing her. I'd say the biggest reason for having more verbal and non-verbal friendliness between the lady and her guys in porn films is that this is a huge thing for guys in real life. In real life, the guy must be sure about the lady's consent. Or else he might end up in jail as a rapist. A porn scene, that shows a guy taking the lady without any clear indication from her that she welcomes him, is a porn scene that probably makes at least some guys feel anxious. Because this isn't the kind of situation they would want to be in real life. This porn scene shows them how not to do it. Which is a little hard to enjoy. A good example of a lady making her guys feel welcome with her is Monique Symone in a recently released film called "White Out". It's a white on black gang-bang. Monique first juggles the cocks of her guys with her mouth and hands. And then she decides to focus her oral attention on one of the guys. But before she goes oral on that guy, she turns to the other three guys, slaps her nice ass, and tells them to come and get it. This is like the lunch-master at school ringing the lunch-bell to invite everybody to eat. Except in this case, Monique Symone slaps her nice ass and invites everybody to fuck. Edited by - Dan on 8/24/2015 4:08:21 PM [Link] |
| StarGrek Deactivated User Under the moonlight. 1763 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Aug 25 2015 : 3:54PM I agree about the Cloud library and I think is very good idea but... There are some sites like VideoBox which allow you to edit the scenes themselves selecting and download specific frame content. (Though they have a slow and problematic interface. They wanted to improved it and they made it worst) There are sites like AdultDVDEmpire or many other VideoOnDemand services where you can rent or download a specific scene from the DVD title. Many professional sites offer free streaming too. I totally support Free previews and those sites who haven't are at least... stupid. Nobody buys anything without testing, especially porn which is a visual product. Of course it would be great to have all these together and if they come in affordable prices is even better but forgive me sweetie I would like to know if there a revolutionary concept that I already missed. Perhaps if you would be kind enough to share us more info... about your new move. BTW. I used to buy DVDs but now I buy or rent only downloadable content because it is targeted in performers and sexual activity and is easily manipulative. Meanwhile... Explore Sexuality! Edited by - StarGrek on 8/25/2015 3:55:50 PM [Link] |
| Electric_Logan Member 384 Posts 6/11 | Posted - Jul 5 2016 : 11:29AM Some compilations just go through each scene and don't return to any scene after showing it, however in my opinion the best compilations will return to scenes. So for example I would love to see a Mike Adriano compilation, and a great Adriano compilation could for example start with Aidra Fox with Adriano, then go to Summer Day with Adriano, then Samantha Rone, then Gia Paige, then Veruca James. Then it goes back to another high point in the Aidra Fox scene, then another high point in the Summer Day scene etc. So it is showing us all these most amazing parts of all these different scenes but constantly changing back, and forth, between these scenes. I don't live off compilations, but occasionally I love them. Generally I will watch them for their theme. For example I can watch a gaping compilation or an anal creampie compilation and that's the theme, and it's great you get to see this fast mix of all these amazing gapes or creampies or whatever the theme is. If you're horny for a particular theme it helps, it's preferable to watching a scene, then stopping and looking up another scene etc. Also it's worth mentioning that compilations with too heavy, present music are horrible. I want to hear the scene. Sometimes there's a compilation with a nice beat but it's not too loud and I can still hear the girl in the scene more, that's good. Compilations without music at all are good as well though. I think it's important to mention that compilations, for me at least, don't render the featured scenes redundant/make them not worth watching. What compilations actually do is they show me clips of scenes, and I think what I'm seeing is amazing and then I want to see the whole scene together all in one (usually loads more of the scene is not actually in the compilation). So actually, fan made compilations on tube sites have helped me to discover new stars, new titles, and have encouraged me to make purchases to see entire scenes. They can be used in advertising when you think on it. An Adriano compilation, featuring a huge array of his best scenes over the last several years, could be used as a trailer for a subscription to Adriano. People could watch that to see what they will be able to watch properly if they join Adriano. I think this gives you some insight into your first three questions, because the only compilations worth watching at the moment really are fan made, and so they are on tube sites. Generally I only use tube sites for compilations or genuine amateur stuff. I'm in EvilAngel and I use Aebn.net if I want to watch a scene from outside of EvilAngel. I'm into the Tushy girls too though, and only limited Tushy scenes are available on Aebn, so I end up just hoping those I can't see will get on EvilAngel, ideally with my favourites Adriano and LeWood. Occasionally I download a few LegalPorno scenes too, however to be honest I find so many of the eurogirls to be lacking charisma, presence, personality. I like to see girls laughing, engaging, enjoying, only few of the eurogirls seem to do this in LegalPorno, so mostly I've enjoyed watching the very few US girls who have shot with LegalPorno, as that is an awesome novelty and I would love to see more US girls in LegalPorno. I watch primarily on laptop. As for porn I would like to see that I haven't seen yet, I think for me it's more a case of what I would like to see more of. I've seen stuff on LegalPorno (not all the DP, DAP etc. as I'm not actually into that) that I would like to see done in US porn.. and I think Adriano is awesome. He's great at shooting really naughty, dirty porn, getting these sexy girls to be so naughty, and yet they are really enjoying themselves and laughing and smiling and having an awesome time. That's cool. Also he talks to them a lot about themselves before they fuck. He asks them where they're from, what they did before porn what they were studying or what job they did, it's really cool and turns me on so much because he's revealing to the fans that these girls are very much just regular girls. I know that, but it's important that people do know that I think. Don't forget it. They're just like any girl you could know. I'm not personally into the scenario thing y'know, like a porn star playing a role. I like reality, I just want to see the porn star being herself, being who she is, sharing who she is, and being so naughty. I realise there is still a place for scenario/acting based porn, there's gonna' be a fanbase. This is just my preference. [Link] |
| Electric_Logan Member 384 Posts 6/11 | Posted - Jul 5 2016 : 11:37AM So, Buttman's Stretch Class. Such a short series, but such a great series. Hottest thing I've ever seen without any actual sex. It's all about the ass (you can probably tell I'm a mega anal fan), but it's with toys, butt plugs and dildos and it's all about the beautiful woman, naked, showing off her amazing ass and spreading her ass cheeks and showing off everything to the camera. No sex is needed. And she's in all these positions, trying out all these toys, and it's interactive where the director is engaging with her, talking to her saying things and asking things while she's doing all this, not hounding her but being fun and inquisitive, and helping her, sometimes thrusting the toy himself so she can just spread her ass cheeks and show herself off completely. It's really good. I think there's a market for a series like that, it's anal without any sex but it is surprisingly hot despite the no sex.. and I think it could be good for encouraging girls to try anal, or helping them to start doing it. [Link] |
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