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astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 22 2005 : 11:11PM
IIRC, "Black & Blue" is a promotional firm, so yes, she kinda has said that she's involved with the industry.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 23 2005 : 12:07AM
DS has proved that this thread wont change a thing as far as their boxcovers/deceit go. There have been other threads in the past regarding these same issues with DS. Their focus is getting out as much product as possible with little emphasis on quality control.
shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 23 2005 : 11:55AM
Here is yet another shining example of how Digital Sin will say or show anything on a boxcover to promote the title, whether its true or not. Gof reviewed Double Teamed #4 today on this site. Here is his comments about a double vag that is talked about on the boxcover, but nowhere to be found in the movie. Some companies do this by mistake, but I think DS does this unpurpose. Like I said, the less people buy or rent DS, maybe they will finally wake up and realize intentionally misleading the customer to sell titles is not the way to go.


"The box cover suggests that this is Kathleen’s first ever double vag scene, but unless I fell asleep at some point during this scene *which is unlikely because its over so quickly) then she didn’t even get close."

DS Director
Digital Sin

69 Posts
7/03
Posted - May 23 2005 : 1:40PM
Wow this is just getting delusional now. Lets re-cap:

POTF 10 (Released March 28, 2005)- Bobbi Eden herself told you how this happened. I can have the DDF people come on and tell you again. It doesn't seem to matter. Bottom line we are just not expecting to get shots of action that did not occur in the movie. We have corrected the error by re-issuing the corrected cover.

Anal Perversions 3 (Released May 6, 2004)- Just because Ron - "Big Double Everything Fan" sees double anal anywhere he can does not mean we did something wrong. Nowhere does it say Gia does DA. Then you go on to say that AWO 3 is missing multiple DAs? There are NONE! LeCastel has come on and told you what happened.

Harder Faster 3 (Released January 29, 2004)- Editor did mistakenly cut out the footage from scene. It was replaced - re-mastered and re-released. In the meantime the scene was shown in full as a bonus on HF 4.

Double Teamed 4 (November 24,2004)- First I am hearing of it. Looked into it and you are right. The director who made this same mistake on Anal Retentive 4(Released November 11, 2004) of not shooting enough footage - 55 sec- should have shot much, much more of this. This was a communication error between the art department and editing similar to the mistake on Harder Faster 3. I believe given the circumstance - we will change the insert because I think 55 sec is not enough - but we'll see.

We have released over 1000 scenes or more in this time with excellent reviews that are posted throughout the web. This is where people who really want to know what the movie about should go. Good and bad - it is all there.

I am done with this biased, ill informed bashing. Our quality speaks for itself. I have wasted enough time here trying to appease people with an agenda. I hope to return to a more constructive forum that is productive and informative.

Thank you Moderators. I am not sure how often something like this happens here but please recognize what this thread has become. It started with genuine concern and became an exercise in hating.

And thank you Tricia - your support and clear minded viewpoints are greatly appreciated from such a well respected company.

Shark1 - Please continue to look at all of our movies in the manner of which you have become accustomed. Report any and all problems in whatever public forum you select. It sadly, seems to give your life meaning.

Thank you to all those who can see through this crap and continue to support us. We owe all of our success to you.

 
Jean-yves LECASTEL
Member

94 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 23 2005 : 2:03PM
Hi everybody, jean-Yves lecastel is there.
I come again in this forum to defend this time Didital Sin. It is true that some mistakes have been done. But does this mistakes make the product less attractive ?
When you see AWO # 3 cover, you know exactly what will happen, because I am the one who is taking care of the situation. No matter what, you all know me and the guys I hire will fuck the ass of the beaches and open it enough for you to see the inside colour.
A DP in Ass Wide Open is a cerish on the cake. It will not change the taste of the cake. With Ass Wide Open, people only remember the Ass Wide Open and not the DP.
To make a comparison, I suggest everybody to check Assman 27. There, the imposture is real and serious. Check what I wrote about it.

In conclusion I should say that Digital Sin and New Sensation are making a good job, but nobody is perfect.
Anyway, with DS, we are speaking about making a new serie : more good anal fuck, more wide gape, etc ...

I will keep you inform

JYL

LadyB
Black and Blue, USA

161 Posts
2/05
Posted - May 23 2005 : 4:53PM
Bill, and also Tricia per email,

As I have already confirmed directly to Steph and El Silent Jay - I was working for All Media Play from December to April 1st of this year. During that time I WAS working for the marketing firm that handles New Sensations. I do know the people at New Sensations, as well as many other people in the adult biz.

Since April, I have been posting PRO-BONO on ADT and on other boards and web publications for those friends that send me press releases. I've posted for Smash, DS and NS, as well as DomConLA, Joey Strange and Carnavale De Sade as well as others. HOWEVER - I am not posting in this thread, or any other thread - at this time with any actual "voice of the company" since I am not their official press agent, nor am I being asked to do so as such.

Steph and I cooresponded and she has changed my posting designation to BLACK AND BLUE, USA - as I am the Editrix of that web publication, and as so I come across other information on the adult industry, and post what I assume would be of interest to the ADT readers from that information.

I have never made any attempt to mislead a single person here. In fact, I asked for Mod Steph and Jay to remove the All Media Play from my name as soon as I left that company, so that there would be no misrepresentation of who I was, or what I was doing on the boards.

I am forming a publicity firm (Black and Blue Media) along with two of my friends in the industry, (as well as still working with KSEXradio.com on BBUSA on KSEXradio.com), as astroknight correctly stated (Thank you astroknight). This I also discussed at length with Steph, who said that was fine as long as the "official" posts are designated, and when that actually comes into being, then I'll be certain to let EVERONE know exactly what I'm doing, and when I post a press release, or have the ability to speak for that company in an official capacity, then I will certainly let you know.

In the mean time, I was not aware that you can not be a fan of porn, as well as an insider. I have not always "defended" NS/DS in this thread, nor if I have not whole heartedly jumped to the conclusion to condemn them at first read, was I the only one NOT to do so.

If anyone still has a problem with that, then Steph may let me know if she thinks my account should be terminated.

And a big "Thank you" to Steph for changing that auto-sig, and removing AMP so quickly. I have two publications that seem to be forgetting my requests for the removal of AMP from my postings auto-sigs. It looked like Carnavale De Sade and DomCom releases were sent out by AMP. ~sigh~

Edited by - LadyB on 5/23/2005 5:08:38 PM

Edited by - LadyB on 5/23/2005 5:15:27 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 23 2005 : 5:23PM
Best.Post.Yet.
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 23 2005 : 8:06PM
You can. The problem is when nobody know what your allegiances are when you are posting. We have no idea whether you are posting as a fan or as a PR person. Just the fact that you are posting Press Releases for DS/NS at the same time that you are posting as "a fan" makes everything that you write in their defense questionable. Whether you are getting paid by DS/NS or not is irrelevant. Nobody here knows when you are are aren't getting paid. Even if we did, as a freelance PR person, they are a potential client. It's in your best interest to defend them.

When Tricia, Brandon, DS Director or any other company representative post here, everybody know exactly what their allegiances are when reading their posts. You are the exception to that. That is what the problem is.

That's a joke, right? Maybe you can point out the post where you weren't defending them in this thread. I can't find it.
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 23 2005 : 8:16PM
Look harder. It was pro bono defense.

Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - May 23 2005 : 8:23PM
Jean-Yves, great to see you back on the forum! And thank you for trying to address this situation. Hopefully DIGITAL SIN will take steps to avoid this problem in the future.
RonK All-Star Supporter
Big Double Everything Fan

Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat
3713 Posts
9/01
Posted - May 23 2005 : 8:42PM
First, I did not first point out the Digital Sin made the mistake. If DS Director had read the earlier threads, he would have seen that someone else first made the claim and I was merely repeating the claim. I have not seen the DVD and cannot attest to the missing dap of Gia Paloma.

Second and more importantly, let us look at the rear cover of Anal Perversions #3.

Rear Cover of Anal Perversions #3 from Jaded

If you look at the second from the top picture on the left column, you can clearly see the Gia Paloma dap. One does not need to imagine a dap when clearly one did exist. So there was a dap that DS Director knew nothing about. With careless comments like this and without checking his own rear covers, DS Director claims that there was no da mentioned in Anal Perversion. What then does the picture of a Gia Paloma dap in rear cover imply? DS Director has not strengthened his case at all . When the picture shows a dap, there should be a dap scene. Oh Well DS Director -1 .

Ron

EL_
Member

Browsing with Mouse Gestures
193 Posts
7/04
Posted - May 24 2005 : 1:03AM
I hate to say it as a fan of DS but after the problems and the lack of quality control(hint-> all you have to do is watch the films/Covers you sell) b4 they are sent out to the replicator.

Another idea is telling fans it won't happen again measures are in place. I have no agenda and will be a loyal fan but an error is an error and should be avoided.

LadyB
Black and Blue, USA

161 Posts
2/05
Posted - May 24 2005 : 1:09AM
That's a joke, right? Maybe you can point out the post where you weren't defending them in this thread. I can't find it.
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shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 24 2005 : 1:18AM
Just reading the comments of "DS Director", who by the way wont even identify himself, shows the type of company this is and who they hire. Gives my life meaning huh? It is nice to see that in this thread you again choose to insult people that point out the obvious problem DS has with quality control. You clearly do not take criticism too well. As bad as the boxcovers are, you represent DS even worse. I could name several more movies, Desires of the Innocent #3 for one and the Sharka Blue scene. Good luck finding the scenes with her in the movie like are shown on the back boxcover. There are many more, but I cant remember since its been so long since I have seen a non-JYLC DS movie.
 
SWorldMegan
Shane's World

213 Posts
5/05
Posted - May 24 2005 : 4:17AM
I am pretty sure DS Director has made it pretty clear he is Tyrone Shuz ... i think he posted his email addy in this thread too, right??
I have seen this movie ... hottness! I am pretty sure she is credited as Jaqueline in this movie. Some girls change their names a bunch of times in their careers ... especially when they are first starting (not sure when this was shot in her career ... so don't quote me LOL)! So check out the movie again and look for her in scene two ... I think it was.

Looks like we all make mistakes ... but that makes life interesting!


xoxox,
Megan

Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - May 24 2005 : 4:37AM
I have this Sharka movie also and it's true what Shark1 is writing . I got movies from other big companies too ,where a lot stuff that was shown on the back cover is missing in the movie . Every company makes mistakes sometimes ,DS is not the only one !
DS should solve the problems of back covers and take care of the end product in the future .
scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - May 24 2005 : 6:34AM
I believe you are correct. Well, it's been implied, anyway.

Here:

and here:
scipio
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 24 2005 : 8:02AM
So crazy it just might work!
valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 24 2005 : 8:11AM
God I love life sometimes.
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 24 2005 : 8:13AM
I don't know about you, but I hate it when I get sand in my ass.
astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 24 2005 : 10:33AM
Hmmmmm. I'm not quite sure how it's delusional. People are stating cases where what you show on the cover doesn't match the movie and most of the time you're agreeing with them. Did some of those people go a little overboard? Yeah, I'd say that Ron's "You need to pay big so you don't do it again in the future" is a bit overboard, but so's jumping on your customers when you screw up and they point it out. We all understand that mistakes happen. We're all human and I hope that we realize, like Tricia pointed out, that change doesn't happen overnight. Yes, we hear that you're trying to correct some of the problems which have already occurred, but the bigger problem here is that there seems to be a trend.
Sorry, DS Director, but the only one that's seeming ill informed is you (as your attack on Ron over Anal Perversions 3 shows), and once again your attitude isn't helping anything!
Funny, this thread seemed to be just that and you seem to have quite a problem with it. Or is it just that it should be productive and informative about the good things at DS and the things that need to be corrected at other companies?
Physician, heal thyself.
About starting with genuine concern and becoming an exercise in hating?????

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 24 2005 : 11:40AM
Hey Megan,

Yeah, Sharka's scene is in indeed in the movie, but I mean the shots of her shown on the back boxcover - the majority of those positions are not actually shown in her scene in the vid.

I have purchased and rented several titles from Anabolic, EA, RLD, PlatinumX, etc. Once in a blue moon this will happen with other companies, but not often. DS does this consistently, then give the same response every time, not to mention the tact that 'DS Director' has shown in this thread.

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 24 2005 : 7:23PM
Right. And in the same post (the part that you didn't emphasize) you defended DS by making excuses for them.

Let me make my first challenge a little more clear. Can you find a post in this thread where you didn't defend them somewhere in the post?

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 24 2005 : 7:51PM
What part of "pro bono" don't you understand?

 
DS Director
Digital Sin

69 Posts
7/03
Posted - May 24 2005 : 7:52PM
Hi Bill,

Can you have Steph write me or call me? E-mail is tshuz@newsensations.com. Thanks. I would appreciate it.

I am Tyrone Shuz. I am responsible for whatever is right and wrong with the company. Not concealing anything.

Whoever Lady B is - she is not on our payroll. Lady B - sorry if anything you have written here gets turned bad on you. It seems to be expected here.

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 24 2005 : 8:17PM
Sure. But you can get her yourself at webmaster@adultdvdtalk.com.
The 7th Letter
Member

19 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 24 2005 : 9:50PM
Everybody in here needs a little something to sip on to relax the mind, body and soul. Life is good. Drinks on me.

Sorry for my randomness......

LadyB
Black and Blue, USA

161 Posts
2/05
Posted - May 25 2005 : 1:11AM
That wasn't a defense Bill. That was an opinion.

skronker
Notable Legendary Icon

Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - May 25 2005 : 1:16AM
I've lost track of who said what.
But, I learned never to trust a back boxcover photo, period.
Oral B.
Member

349 Posts
4/05
Posted - May 26 2005 : 5:38PM
I recently rented a New Sensations dvd. And I had a hard time figuring out why the video compression seemed so poor and blocky, for a dvd that clocked in at under 2 hours...?
Am I the only one here that thinks the video quality seems weak on some DS/NS dvd's?
They should really think about cleaning up the quality.
I own other movies that are way longer, and have perfectly clear video quality. How is it that a shorter movie could have worse video quality than say a RLD title?
Anyway. Thats my .02
Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - May 27 2005 : 3:41AM
I get almost the JYLC and Joachim Kessef titles and the video quality is excellent . Only the movie runtime is to short ,if you compare it with PXP and RLD titles .
Oral B.
Member

349 Posts
4/05
Posted - May 27 2005 : 3:52PM
Hmm thanks for the FYI Gapelover.
I'm not familiar with any of Joachim Kessefs titles.
Feel free to recommend any super filthy dvd's you know about ;)
As for the compression issue on some dvd's. I just find it odd that there hasnt been a standard of quality thats been set.
Guess I'll just stick with what I know is good for now, until other companys clean up their compression issues.
Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 6:47PM

FYI - LeCastel has made one a month since Feb under a new deal we have in place. Ass Wide Open # 3 streets on May 12 and #4 is scheduled for June 16.


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Do you have to create a new box cover for AWO #4 ?
I Can't find any release date for AWO #4 !

DS Director
Digital Sin

69 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jun 2 2005 : 7:44PM
AWO #4 box is nearing approval. Please continue to check our site for updates. I appreciate your interest.
 
RLD Fiend
Member

Cincinnati, O.
665 Posts
10/04
Posted - Jun 3 2005 : 3:14AM
For what it's worth, I think NS/DS has some of the best video quality of any company in porn that I've had the pleasure to see...

Click on beautiful Taylor Rain for great porn reviews!

Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jul 17 2005 : 4:12AM
What happened to the new JYLC Perversions serie ?
There is only a good Vol.1 ,any news about this series ?
Gapelover
Senior Member

Master of Gapes
1933 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 4:36AM
no answer !!!
Endless Loop
Senior Member

Tomatometer
1129 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jul 18 2005 : 6:38AM
Apparently Gapelover,

if most are still rummaging about the latest deluge of titles, to wash down and inundate the basin,

and the truly gluttonous, have hiked up to the foot of the watertower, in fervid anticipation of the next release,

you've scaled the tower to holler up the spigot.

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