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DoesItReallyMatter
Member

6 Posts
1/15
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 8:40AM
Hey everyone,
I am new to pornsites you gotta pay for. Usually I buy DVDs but since a monthly subscription is about 18€, and it ist free to download pictures and movies at rk.com braziers.com and many others I would like to try it out.
BUT I read a lot about hacks and credit card fraud when it comes to subscribing and paying with credit card.
So since I am from Germany, we also have a kind of throw away credit card which can be bought at gas stations. You pay 100€ and you can use them for shopping online and offline. It's anonym because no one wants your name.
But when I see the sign up pages they always want a name and address which i have but which is not attached to my throw away credit card. MUST I give my real name and address or can I invent something? I guess they will never send me a letter ;)!
Another thing I was wondering about is the fact that you can subscribe for 1/3/12 months. Usually 12 months are not rebilled but 1/3 are. Since the credit card has a certain amount of money on it, does the unsubscribtion work? I mean I read about people who unsubscribed but still got a bill.
I just wonder what your thoughts are about this matter and which payment method would be the safest. I don't want an annual subscribtion but try it out for a months.
I saw that some pay sites also accept PayPal an paysafecard. Any comments on that? I would like to be anonymous and not be seen on a detailed hacker file with name address and so on.
Hope you can understand my concern since it's my first time ;) I have read a lot in this forum and I really like it and get a lot of information.
And I am not that tube guy...I think a lot on there is bad quality and you don't even know if it's legal. See red tube.
Thanks everybody. And yeah it's my first post but it won't be the last
JigglyBoobs
Senior Member

1614 Posts
3/12
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 10:00AM
This is not meant as a dig but I think you should exercise some common sense and think of the harsh reality of the real world here.
It's all well and good that you want to be anonymous but remember that in territories where it's legal to purchase porn, you have to be at least 18 (or 21 in some locations). Webmasters have a legal responsibility not to allow access to minors as they can they can be prosecuted. If you're anonymous, how can they verify your age?
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 12:11PM
I've been surfing for porn for many years and have joined a ton of sites with never one issue of card theft so I don't see why you should be worried.
Now a pre-paid card should not be a problem but PayPal may be because most sites refuse to deal with PayPal. It's also going to be impossible to join a site anonymously because you need to put your name and a valid email to join. Now you could always create a false identity and a throw away email address but your I.P. would still be on the register.
The most important things is to make sure that the CC Processor is one that can be trusted. My favorite is Epoch then followed by CCBill, Segpay, Fame care and Verotel. The other important thing is a valid email address so that you receive a confirmation of your transaction. This is important even in a non-renewable transaction because if there is any problem with the site then you can go back to the CC processor and complain. That is hard to do when you are missing key info that I sent with a join confirmation.
DoesItReallyMatter
Member

6 Posts
1/15
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 12:11PM
Thanks for your reply,
I guess you are right.
So do they get my age through my real name and address because i do not have to sign up or anything for paysafecard or the credit card.
I am just (too) curious and overprotective I guess but with hacks and credit cards there is a reason ;)
For example, if I want to sign up to babesnetwork and I go over reviewedporn.com I get acces for 1 month for 9.99.
If I went just to their site by typing it in the browser it is 29.99 for a moths.
And I could pay via paypal (is that good?).
The only think I dont get, why there are different prices?
Any other advices?
Thanks to all.
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 5:36PM
^I went to babesnetwork.com and do not see PayPal as a payment option. I would be very surprised to see PayPal offered as a pornsite subscription payment option.
Regarding the $9.99 price, it is fairly common for some pornsites to offer discounts. There is a website iDealgasm.com which is totally devoted to discounted pornsite deals. iDealgasm.com currently shows the $9.99 deal for Babes.com(babesnetwork).
I periodically check idealgasm; some pornsites seem to ALWAYS have a discount going. Other pornsites seem to never offer discounts.
Edited by - ninja1 on 1/11/2015 5:40:34 PM
 
Jackie Treehorn
Member

It'll knock both your eyes out!
311 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jan 11 2015 : 8:00PM
One simple but very helpful warning for pretty much every site. Make sure to uncheck any boxes for optional trials to other sites. They are usually placed near the Terms of Agreement and can easily be mistaken for one of those "I agree to..." things most sites and online order forms require you to check off, in to complete an order. My first subscription to Evil Angel got me on this. I spotted it moments later when I got a confirmation email from a site I did not join, So I was able to cancel that site before the 2 day trial ran out and I would of gotten a $30 renew fee.
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 1:38AM
Hello OP, good to have you here. The pre-paid card I use is Kalixa Pay (other cards are available - just Google 'pre-paid cash card' for reviews/comparisons). There's a small sign-up fee for this card (less than 9 euros), though when I got mine registration was half-price - bargain. When the card arrives in the mail you activate it via the website, then load money on to it (an amount of your choosing) from your bank account using your regular credit or debit card. There is NO fee to load the card whatsoever if you use a debit card. Also, there is NO currency conversion charge when using this card - ideal for sites that deal with a different currency. Once you have funds on the card, use it online in place of your regular bank card. Since you can only spend what you have on the card there's practically zero fraud worries. Just top up as and when needed. Sorted.
I use a secondary email address for porn site registration (it should be a breeze to create one using your email program), thus diverting the spam and whatever other gunk I receive there instead of to my regular email - though, to be honest, when joining a reputable site, this should be minimal anyway. When you sign up to a site you'll get an email from that site's billing company, confirming the transaction. This will contain all the support info and usually a direct link to the billing company's website. Cancellation is as simple as clicking on that link, finding your transaction by entering a few details such as your username (for the porn site), email or a reference number and hitting 'cancel'. There's rarely, if ever, any need to talk to, or email, someone to carry out a cancellation. I've never had any problems whatsoever. Furthermore,you can cancel the same day you join and your membership remains active for the period you've paid for - handy if you're the forgetful sort.
Finally, as others have said, never join a site directly as you'll be paying full whack. Join through a link on a review site such as rabbits reviews or the excellent iDealgasm and you'll be laughing. Oh, and as Jackie ^ said, scrutinise those tick boxes. Happy whacking!
DoesItReallyMatter
Member

6 Posts
1/15
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 4:51AM
Thanks everybody :)!
Well I guess I will try kalixa pay. It seems to be a good or the best option.
The only thing I wonder is, do you all use use real name and address?
For example in Germany there is another prepaid credit card available. You can buy it at a gas station. It's called mywirecard visa2go.
You can load 100€ on it WITHOUT registration. This means also that there is no name nor address on the card.
It just says where usually the name is written "My Card". So you actually don't have more than the card number.
Perhaps I am to suspicious or whatsoever about my name lol.
But the advice by joining through review sites is awesome.
Could you recommend any good sites where it is also allowed to download their stuff?
X-art is like high quality and "nice" porn. But any other sites which are naughtier?
Thanks :)
PS. Regarding the babes network: could it be that different countries offer different payment methods?image.jpg
Edited by - doesitreallymatter on 1/12/2015 4:55:09 AM
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 6:20AM
^Some payment providers (notably CCBill) have the dreaded 'regional billing', so you get different payment options in different countries. Usually it means they charge non US customers a shitload more. I hate it.
Jacco
davebowman
Member

294 Posts
6/09
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 12:24PM
Why are you so worried about using your real name and address?
DoesItReallyMatter
Member

6 Posts
1/15
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 1:07PM
I dont know actually. Perhaps its just me. Or perhaps I think its kinda not safe? Sometimes I get the impression that the sites dont seem to be so trustworthy although they should be.
Dont really know. But I read about an incident with RK.com where a bunch of credit cards got hacked. And it doesnt seem nice to look up your name at google and see a document where u subscribed to porn ;)!
Here is a link to the card I would buy.
But as I read the sites usually need to check your age (18+), which is not possible with this card since you dont register.
Does anyone of you have actually used this card?
http://www.mywirecard.com/en/visa.html

Edited by - Doesitreallymatter on 1/12/2015 1:33:02 PM

N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 2:48PM
^ I totally understand where you're coming from, I'm relatively new (just over a year now) to joining pay sites myself & understand it's quite daunting if you don't know what you're doing. I asked for advice myself on ADT and did a lot of reading up on secure payment options before finally taking the plunge. But in that first year I've been a member of about half a dozen sites and it really is a cinch once you get started. Believe me, you have absolutely nothing to fear from divulging your name & address - it's practically unavoidable. As an earlier poster said, they have to verify in some way that you are not a minor. And, in case you're worried, no one's gonna be judging you. Buying porn is just like buying anything else online. It's a business. On the rare occasions I've live-chatted with some of these sites' customer services I've never found them to be any less than friendly and helpful.
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Jan 12 2015 : 9:37PM
This is what I see:
babescompaymentmethod.JPG
DoesItReallyMatter
Member

6 Posts
1/15
Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 8:05AM
Hey noodles thanks that you hear me:)!
Well I guess then the payments are country specific. Since you do not have PayPal and we don't have check option.
Some sites I saw offered even paysafecard and there I don't see any possibility to show that you are 18+. You just buy a pin code (16 letters) for value of 5/10/15....up to 100€. Then you pay with it.
But yeah I guess credit card is the only real option.
Just one more question. What happens if I subscribe one month and cancel and for whatever reason the cancellation doesn't get to the pay site and I don't have any money on the credit card? Do you usually get a mail which states or approves that you cancelled?
N00dlesDaddy
Senior Member

Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 11:34AM
^ On cancelling you'll almost always receive an email confirming it. If you're worried you can call, email or live-chat with the customer service dept. of the billing company concerned.
 
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jan 23 2015 : 9:17PM
I don't shop online much. There are some books I can't get locally, so I finally went to a store to get a prepaid debit card. They're $5 for the card plus $5 monthly charges. That's more than I wanted to spend for a $20 book.
Draxxx
Senior Member

3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 10:03AM
^ Buy books from AMAZON all the time and never had a problem other than a seller might send a book and it gets lost in the mail but that rarely happens. Since I started using AMAZON PRIME and buying directly from AMAZON I never had any problems and I get the books in about 2 days. I trust AMAZON and they usually have everything I would want.
When it comes to porn paysites...I've joined a few and never had any problems with them credit card-wise. I think in the early days of the net there might've been cause to worry about such things but these days I would think if you stick with the well known sites you're pretty safe. It's more profitable to had their customers feel safe and get what they expect and have a good rep than try to make a few bucks trying to rip you off. Also, I think it's best to use a credit card of some sort because they offer more protection than a debit card or having the money come directly from your bank.



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