I've got gay porn down pat - know what I like and know how to find it. However, I know nothing about str8 porn these days. I know Peter North only as Matt Ramsey. The only time I've ever seen str8 porn was once back in the early 70's when I went to a triple feature (Deep Throat, Devil in Miss Jones & Behind the Green Door) with about 20 guys who were all members of the football, basketball and baseball teams at the university I attended (the event was a major hoot - and the carryings on and quips, hooting & hollering eventually got us thrown out of the theater).
I see that those 3 titles are still available; however, as with other things, I'm sure there have been many advances.
What I'm taking a long time saying is that I'd like to purchase a few str8 titles that are current, up-to-date classics, preferably with particularly hot guys as well as hot girls and great sex.
There are a lot of "5" rated videos among the reviews. Can some of you narrow it down to, say, 3 favorites among the many?
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 1 2001 : 5:57PM
I'll give you two suggestions, that counts as good movies AND available on DVD.
- Desires Within Young Girls - A classic. Mixes comedy and drama, has great acting, and the sex scenes are funny, romantic and hot (not all of this at the same time, of course).
- Zazel - A modern one. Won a buncha awards. It's more like a experiment in porn-making, with creative situations and an exquisite wardrobe + art direction. Heavy on lesbian scenes, but it does have extremely pretty girls (some handsome guys too), and stuff NEVER seen before in any porn. Worth a view.
Unfortunately, Take Off isn't available on DVD yet. It's like a porn version of The Portrait of Dorian Gray , and I actually CRIED during the ending.
I guess our friends will come with more, equally excellent titles for you to check, but those two are the ones I'll definitely give to the first-time porn viewer.
And if you just want so see some wall-to-wall sex, the Evil Angel stuff with Rocco and Christoph Clark are the place to go.
Also from Evil Angel, I would suggest John Leslie's Dog Walker and Fresh Meat , and John Stagliano's Face Dance . They have a nice story AND wall-to-wall sex.
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I think the key words to keep in mind here are 'hot guys', and this is where we might run into problems, GaySatyr. ;) Planet, are the guys in those movies 'Hot' or 'Not'?
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Posted - Jul 1 2001 : 6:38PM
Well... Desires stars a very young John Leslie, and he was pretty hot at the time.
About Zazel , a g/f mine pointed out that the guys are handsome. It's kinda hard to tell cuz they're usually painted gold, blue or red in the flick, but she must know better than me.
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Thanks, DB - That is exactly part of the problem. My impression garnered from reading material on this site and others is that, while they seem to be expert at delivering the money shot, most str8 male porn stars are not much in the eye candy category. I'm not saying that they are brown paper bag material, just that they aren't "10's" either.
So, I guess I'm asking for title suggestions that you str8 guys thing contain major hot babes & sex and that you str8 gals think contain major male beef.
North Pole #16, Lesbian Teeny Boppers, WTBA Series, Blowjob Fantasies Series, Any Black Label PRIVATE DVD, and I would also recommend The 4 Finger Club series.
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Posted - Jul 1 2001 : 6:54PM
Mmm... do you consider Rocco a handsome man?
Well, I don't. He's a fucking good performer and I will NEVER deny it, but he has a Schwarzenegger-sized gap between his front teeth, and the eyes of a dead fish on crack.
Well, that's MY opinion, of course. But ALL the girls (and some guys) go ga-ga all over him. I watch his movies cause he delivers the goods.
So, if you like Rocco, I guess you're going to like his movies. The sex sometimes get so hot that your DVD player will melt.
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I have a hard enough time recommending good looking women, but when it comes to suggesting good looking men, I might be completely unqualified. That said, you can always play it safe with Andrew Blake movies where everything and everyone looks as good as they're ever going to look on film. And as far as well made movies made recently, you can again play it safe with DVDs from Antonio Passolini who is simply better than others at directing porn.
Well, I agree that Passolini makes very good straight feature porn, but VCA's typical male castings (and sometimes female castings) are not "hotties." Guys like Tyce Bune, Michael J. Cox, Kyle Stone, Steve Hatcher, or Pat Myne may be easy to work with and competent wood, but based on the guys who grace the boxes of gay porn, they aren't even remotely hot.
If you want to take small steps toward the straight genre, you should check out Mass Appeal, which is definitely more on the gay side.
If you're not opposed to gonzo porn, then some great straight gonzo with younger girls and guys who are reasonably good looking are the Shane's World DVDs.
Thanks, Saki, I plan to order Mass Appeal. And I'll check out the DVDs from Shane's World.
But can you answer a related question? What is "Gonzo"?
~ GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 1 2001 : 9:53PM
Porn made in the "Mondo" mode, as in real-life couples having real-life, non-staged sex. It's all faked, of course, and the production values are usually zip, but you can find some good examples on Seymore Butt's newer stuff (forget his very first movies; he was learning how to operate a camera, and they have a pre-Blair Witch feel to it; choose the ones he did with Shane).
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As someone who dabbles in both types of features, I'm a little curious as to why you are wanting to check out straight porn. Are you just interested in seeing some of the more current stars, or just wanting to check an alternative? I'm not trying to be offensive in any way. But when you consider that one of the best-known male performers in porn is Ron Jeremy (a far cry from even a little bit hot, IMO), you can kinda see that "hot guys" are definitely optional in that segment of porn. For me personally, I watch straight porn for the girls, gay porn for the guys, and bi porn for both! I see you're planning to check out a bi film already, and that may be the preferable route, since the guys' looks are much more important in a bi feature than straight porn. As far as recommendations, I don't really have a lot, but I did really enjoy "Goosed," which is a bi flick, and the sequels are supposed to be even better. As I said in my review of that flick, the low production values are what hurt it, the film itself was very funny and smart. I'm presuming that since it was successful, the quality improved for the ensuing series. I plan to check out the sequels someday when I have some of that "free time" I hear people talking about.
Rocco Siffredi would be good looking by gay standards; he's clean cut, blonde, muscle-bound, and has a huge cock. And he's been known to dabble in the she-male side in some of his movies.
I was only joking when I said they'd make you watch straight porn...
unless they are getting to you? are you being converted?
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 1:43AM
I have an old italian magazine, back when Rocco was a mere unknown billed as "Tano Rocco" and used a moustache (yeah, a MOUSTACHE), with some pics of The Roccoster being SODOMIZED by a she-male.
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LOL! No way! I'm planning to convert a few handsome str8 guys & want to enjoy the process!
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 2:05AM
Well, I hope you have luck with your goal. I would LOVE to see at least 90% of the world male population converted into gayness. That leaves MORE women left for butt-ugly straight guys like me!
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LOL, again! I was kidding because of Evil's kidding me about being converted.
I don't think anyone can "convert" someone else into doing something that he or she would not normally choose to do. Sometimes people can be induced or bribed to do something outside their norm, for example, using drugs or money or even food as the inducement. And then there is the use of force, either physical or positional, as in at gunpoint or after having administered drugs surreptitiously or a boss over an employee situation.
However, none of these is my style. I seduce handsome str8 guys by introducing myself & then totally ignoring them. They can't stand it - they beg me to fuck them silly! And once in a while I oblige, if they can convince me they really want it. (And I'm not young & cute any more, either - and it still works!)
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 2:57AM
Mmm. Vewy intewesting. Does it works with handsome str8 girls too?
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Don't know. Being gay, I've never tried. It's just not my nature.
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 3:24AM
I understand your drama. being a straight man myself. I know that outdates me and puts me in the Middle Ages, but I just can't help it. I'll die a straight man. Shame on me.
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 9:39AM
GaySatyr:
On the Shane's World thing... I've now seen #19 and #21 - you cannot even compare the two. Go with 19! Erik Everhard alone makes 19 a thousand times better. The editing on 21 is really strange and choppy. There's one annoyingly peppy girl in 21 who drove me nuts.
I don't know if Andrew Blake is a good way to go. His focus is entirely on the women.
I'd watch an Antonio Passolini movie just as an example of a good porn movie (even though as Saki says the guys aren't always spectacular.)
Thanks all. You've given me a great starting point. I'm going to try renting some of your suggestions and then making my purchase choices based on my impressions of the rentals.
~ GaySatyr
PS - more suggestions are always welcome.
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Posted - Jul 2 2001 : 12:59PM
When it comes to porn, I STRONGLY suggest you to rent it first. Some movies are a wall-to-wall feast for your gregory pecker; others have only one scene that really boils down your essentials, so that's money in the trashcan.
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Actually, I hadn't thought about the looks of the girls. I assumed that the girls in str8 porn would be, on average, "better-than-average" looking. Is that not correct?
Maybe it's odd, but my taste in men is pretty broad in real life whereas my taste in men is much more selective in the realm of gay porn. After all, it's a fantasy. In porn aimed at str8 guys, I'd expect the same kind of logic.
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Posted - Jul 3 2001 : 10:12PM
The very first pornstars from the 70's weren't exactly beautiful (Linda Lovelace, etc). And today there's still a lot of not-so-good-looking girls in porn. Lorrin Mick and Kassi Nova immediately comes to mind. Hot performers, yes, but not exactly eye candy material.
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I would recommend Private dvds for both great looking ladies and decent looking men. Being str8 myself I never really look at the guys but the ones they use in Private flicks like David Perry are good looking if you are a girl plus they are hung fairly well. I also agree with Steph about Erik Everhard, he really seems to enjoy himself and ShanesWorld 19 was a good example plus you get some interview footage which gives you a glimpse into their personalities. It will take time to find str8 porn you will like watching if you haven't watched any since the 70s, and you are right the girls are for the most part hot. Some I suggest checking out would be Tera Patrick, Jenna Jameson, Nikki Dial, Ginger Lynn, Serenity, Jewel de'Nyle, and Juli Ashton. These are all top notch performers and are quite attractive to look at. As suggested renting is the way to go plus use the web, sites like this one or Rogs Reviews and the IAFD are excellent sites for str8 porn.
Before I started buying gay movies, I've sat through more straight flicks than I care to admit.
Most of them were crap, but if I had to select a favorite, it would have to be Buttman's Ultimate Workout. It's on DVD now, but has a scene missing due to an underage chick.
Rocco's in there, shoving his big dick up some petite girls ass, and if I remember, there's even a few shots of some chick licking some guy's bunghole!
I seem to remember liking New Wave Hookers 2 as well, but I don't remember much about that one.
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I second that. Even without the Alexandra Quinn scene, the movie still packs a lot of punch and remains as one of the Modern Classics of porn. And the DVD edition has extra footage with Rocco.
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Jeez, folks, I thought some gay porn was really bad (as in awful)!
A (former) friend "loaned" me a couple of str8 porn tapes (duplicated & of very questionable origin) yesterday and I watched part of them last night. One was an awful parody of the Louis XIV French court with over-age (late 40's, early 50's), over-weight idiots having sex on (& IN!) a piano and a hot tub fully dressed in 18th century clothing & wigs. The "actors" were obviously speaking in English but the tape was dubbed in French by someone who did not know French! One of the busty ladies was dubbed screaming "Hello, my name is Pierre. How are your parents?" as she was having (faking?) an orgasm. Awful doesn't even come close.
The second tape featured five or six decent looking but overly busty women (probably mid-to-late 30's) with way too much makeup (move over, Tammie Faye) having sex together and with some idiot male who apparently was born in a bear costume he's so hairy and a second male who had a significant pot belly and who shaved his chest, leaving a narrow, inch-wide line of hair from crotch to just beneath his throat. One of the women had breasts which touched the bed on either side of her when she was on her back. She could have wrapped those puppies half way around her partner's body, much less his cock!
I have no idea who the "stars" were or even the titles of the flicks as there were no credits reproduced on either of these boot-leg copies. But, these have got to be two of the worst porn videos every produced!
I fully intend to hog-tie & gag my str8 "friend" and subject him to about 24 hours worth of the best gay porn has to offer. Or maybe I should hunt for a porn tape with nothing but drag queens. He deserves it, the str8 ! I'm sure he picked these two tapes very carefully.
If you're looking to convert your friends but want to get something that you and they will both enjoy then I suggest something here that has yet to be brought up. Try some Bi-videos. These usually have some str8 sex, gay sex and bi-sex scenes in them. Enough to make everyone happy and maybe spark some curiosity from your male friends. As for actual titles I'm sure there are others here that know much more about that just ask. A recommendation though. Look for titles with Tina Tyler. She is one of the few big time str8 actresses that regularly does bi-videos. Also, she was in a great str8 DVD that was recommended earlier called Facedance. It was just named as one of the best ten adult dvd's ever by Playboy.
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Posted - Jul 6 2001 : 6:02PM
BTW - I hate to bring this up 'cause I know I've been a slacker about getting the actual voting done on the WAD awards, but anyway....
The nominations for the WADs are a great place to start looking for quality porn. We have reviews of most of the titles nominated - and if not here then there are probably reviews at iafd.com.
LOL Actually, I'm not convinced anyone can be "converted" and I certainly have no intention of trying. I just want to get 3 or 4 titles of str8 porn to play with. I've already ordered the Bi- title, Mass Appeal . And I'm probably going to order one of North's titles (because of North having spent years being Matt Ramsey in the gay world if for no other - watching Peter North getting porked by Rick Donovan is awe inspiring) and one of Rocco's (haven't decided which title of either of them yet - I'm open to suggestions). Haven't made up my mind on any other actors or titles either. (Can't imagine why you str8 guys pick your videos based on the women in them. )
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Posted - Jul 6 2001 : 8:26PM
For a Rocco title, I would probably recommend True Anal Stories 14 or Rocco Ravishes Prague, or maybe Rocco's Way to Love depending on your tastes (they're all reviewed on this site. Probably one of his more recent ones, considering that he pushes the edge even more with himself and usually gets off by having the girls lick his ass, it would probably be a good conversation starter...! LOL! Also, some people consider Nacho Vidal really cute, so a video with him might be good.
