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Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 4:56PM
I always heard Asian women had the tightest and smallest vagina's and I became interested in them as result. But based on studies from gynecologist and the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, black women do.
Below is a explanation from a certified gynecologist:
I think torso length and hip width are pretty good determiners for vagina size. It is not the height of of the women (head to foot) which determines the depth of the vagina.
There is definitely a racial difference and also genetic factors which determine the length of vagina. White women give birth to babies with larger heads "on average" so their hips are "on average" broader, and their vaginal opening is also larger. Black women, actually have smaller vagina's. They give birth to babies with smaller heads and have smaller hips. Black women store more body fat on their buttocks, but their hips are actually smaller (men and women). White people also have longer torso's and white women also have longer vagina's. Asian women have shorter vagina's than both black and white women, have wider openings than black women, but not as large as white women. Unlike penis size, the body size/shape of a woman has an influence on vaginal size. Taller women (longer torso) with wider hips will most likely have longer and deeper set vagina. Torso size/length is more significant than actual height. As for men however, a 6' 8" man may have a smaller penis than a 5' 8" man, just like has ears may also be smaller. External organs are not influenced by body size or height, whereas internal organs are.
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Links to studies that show:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24464469
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20042169
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2593128/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10895030
http://www.justanswer.com/ob-gyn/6d52a-women-longer-torso-s-deeper-vagina-s.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1283097/
All these links and studies show that black women have smaller vaginal canal's, their pelvic floor muscle strength is stronger than other races and that they have more vaginal muscle thickness. The explanation being black women have more musculature in their PC muscles as well as their vaginal canal's being smaller due to that race naturally giving birth to smaller babies than white or Asian women. Also the rates of incontinence is smallest in black women.
Can anyone give any insight on this? Some of these studies have up to 70,000 women tested and some as little as 33, but each of them have the same findings. They all claim black women have the tightest vagina's.
Also if this is true, will this affect the way we see porn and have any effect on the industry?
Common myth is that vaginal size correlates by race of male with black men being the biggest, white medium and asian smallest.
So most assumed that black women were the loosest (the most undesirable) and asian women as the tightest (most desirable), with white women in the middle. However, studies are showing that the race of male has no effect on vaginal size, its about the size of the babies women of said race naturally give birth to and hips width and apparently from studies black women have the narrowest hips.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 5:04PM
Based from the studies white women ON AVERAGE (not saying all or most) have the loosest and biggest vagina's with more depth due to them have longer torso's on average. Perhaps this could be used to capitalize on the BBC/Blacked series where white woman cheat on their husbands/boyfriends with black men because only black men can please them.
Or this could be used to get more variety in ebony porn with black women and Asian men.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 8:37PM
No one wants to give any opinions???
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Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 10:35PM
^The information in the studies refers to averages among subsets of people. Porn scenes are performed by individuals, who may or may not be very different from the averages in their respective groups. I really can't see how any of this information would have any effect on the viewer or the industry.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 11:31PM
It could have some effect. If white women are on average seen as bigger it could intrigue some white woman to be more interested in black men, and especially black porn increasing Porn sales.
Same for Asian men, who are stigmatized for their smaller penis size. Since its noted many Asian women prefer white men exclusively, it would broaden options of Asian men and have them go for more black women, hence increasing sales in ebony porn.
It'd be a win-win.
 
murdock
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:07AM
^ Why would an individual performer (male or female) care about the average vagina size by race? (it's a rhetorical question, they wouldn't)
Something that seems lost on a great number of posters on this forum. When you fuck someone (on camera or off) you aren't fucking their entire race. You're just fucking that person.
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:13AM
If what you're saying is true, which is something I have neither the expertise nor inclination to determine myself, it won't make one bit of difference to the porn industry. Directors don't consult the latest medical journal studies before they make their scenes. They cast performers hoping to sell lots of DVDs/site memberships, not to validate anatomical hypotheses.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:16AM
You lost me right there. I become interested in individuals as individuals, not because of anything so generic as race, never mind something as silly as who has the tightest and smallest vaginas.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:30AM
Let's be honest. The reason so many women are into black men is because of the stereotype of them having bigger penises. Its explains the success of blacked and other black man/white woman pornographies. Its also seen in cuckholding. Racial fetishm is huge.
Asian women are stereotyped as tighter down there which again in part explains the popularity in Asian and Japanese porn. Men usually like women who are tighter down there. Its an ego boost to the male viewers to fantasize about a woman who considers their penis big in her little tiny vagina.
If they can expand on this, it could help the industry open more doors and create more successful categories, hence more business. and more best sellers instead of the two.
Asian men/black women porn could be the future.
murdock
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:38AM
Yeah, you're right. It's probably that one and only reason.
Also, you being a troll would explain your posts to date. So by your logic, you must be a troll. I like the way this game works!
Edited by - murdock on 7/20/2016 12:41:49 AM
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 1:03AM
Well, if we're being honest then I would find actual data compiled in a meaningful and verifiable way more compelling than a vague reference to 'so many women'. If we're going to fall back on experience, then mine suggests that many women are primarily interested in men who are confident, with an element of the foreign, or exotic, coming in second. Penis size might be a distant third but, frankly, I doubt it.
It explains the success of blacked and other black man/white woman pornographies. Its also seen in cuckholding. Racial fetishm is huge.
Yeah, if you believe women are driving those numbers then I've got some property I'd love to sell you. Cheap! Honest!!
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 1:04AM
I never said that was the only reason. But black men are seen as more masculine and alpha because of their penis size. Its no wonder why bbc is a popular search term. The same can be applied to Asian men who are seen as more feminine and cowardly because they have smaller penises.
I'm saying the reality of the situation. Believe what you want, but porn users, especially American porn users are usually racists and enjoy fetishizing other races of people. The very fact that a popular pornsite BLACKED, which uses the black male stereotype of them all being hung and ravaging innocent white women is one of the top in the game right now isn't only due to performances of the actors, but its due to racial fetishization. That's what users want to see. Most American when polled are in fact racist. There been studies on this to confirm.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 1:15AM
Yet, it was the only reason you gave. Frankly, from your statements to date, what you know about women would fit on the head of a pin.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 1:32AM
I know most women want a man who can sexually please them. But regardless its already shown most women like lesbian porn regardless. The biggest consumers of blacked and cuckhold porn are white men. They get off on seeing stereotypes in play.
Most porn consumers and customers are men, so in order to help the business thrive it needs to cater to them.
Macko69
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 2:23AM
Jeez......this is sad
 
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 8:20AM
It's the way America works. But with newfound knowledge that Black women are the tightest race, this could help Asian men get some kind of attention.
hoochimama
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 8:34AM
Short of a CAT scan you're not gonna get a good look at a vagina's length and width(and often with no scale) so I don't see how it matters for porn where what you see is the vulva.
You want meaningless anecdotal personal evidence? African women on average had the tighest pussies, also the worst odor. South american ones had the ugliest ones(dangling beef curtains). Older women the most busted up assholes.
Does it have any bearing on my porn viewing habits? No, because smut movies don't come in smellovision, designer porn vaginas reign supreme and survival of the fittest drove hemorrhoided mature porn to extinction.
Unless your dick is going into that pussy why would you care about how tight it really is? Will you also masturbate harder depending on the results of fertility rate studies?
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Edited by - hoochimama on 7/20/2016 10:33:39 AM
a9nostic
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It is the saddest thing watching unsuccessful trolling attempts :) You don't even have the ability to provoke.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 10:35AM
Black girls have the smelliest? I wouldn't know I thought it depended on personal hygiene and diet, not on race.
South American women all have beef curtains? I've seen lots of latina's with camel toes
I've only been with white and Asian women, but you're forgetting people who watch porn are all about fantasy.
They don't have to feel something to visualize it. You're forgetting that porn taps into people's senses.
Its more psychological if anything. If a guy even thinks a girl is tight and feels good he will most likely enjoy it.
There's a reason in porn titles they always mention how a vaginal feels.
" Tight pussy blonde gets railed by BBC"
" Tight Asian gets demolished by white cock"
These are all signals that the sex will be good and it activates pleasure in the male brain.
Your missing the subliminal messages.
No, you can't feel the vagina, but you can visualize it and in your mind feel it. It's why people like watching massage video's. They personally aren't getting massaged, but its relaxing regardless.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 10:38AM
Not trolling, but in today's society Asian men aren't seen as sex symbols because of the stereotype of them being feminine and having small penises.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 12:25PM
Where do you get this nonsense?
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 3:16PM
Seems to me that you're a believer in these stereotypes and are using pseduo-science to try and back up your claims.
There are very few popular images of Asian men in North America but the most famous is probably still Bruce Lee who doesn't match any of your claims.
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Plus not surprisingly in Asian film culture there are lots of men who are considered supremely sexy (Tony Leung, Lesilie Cheung) I expect the lack of promiment Asian male sex symbols is just due to a lack of any prominent figures at all.
It is also worth noting that there are also few prominent Asian female sex symbols as well in North America (Lucy Liu?). Clearly suggesting that there are other cultural factors at work not your clumsy pseudo-sociobiology.
Finally, your notion that feminity in males is some kind of turn off for women seems ill founded when you look at the wild popularity of Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Prince, early Michael Jackson, younger Justin Bieber and Leonardo Dicaprio. In fact some feminity and/or androgyny is obviously attractive to many young women and men.
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Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 3:37PM
Notice none of them are Asian men? Justin Beiber has since changed his look, at first he pandered more to teen girl who like the feminine look and the 80's androgynous era doesn't count. Since then, Justin Bieber has changed his look to appear more manly. Bigger muscles, tattoo's, etc..
That's the thing people stereotype Asian men as feminine and girly with small penises. I never said it was true, but people feed off of stereotypes.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 3:40PM
In case you didn't notice Bruce Lee is an Asian man. Can you name another prominent male or female Asian tv or film star in North America?
The most prominent I can muster is Randall Park and Constance Mu from Fresh Off the Boat but I had to look both of their names up.
Maybe Ming-Na Wen and Dichen Lachman but they are both kept in supporting roles on TV.
Again, the lack of Asian sex symbols comes from a lack of any promiment roles for Asians in North America period.
Edited by - BlackSix on 7/20/2016 3:46:16 PM
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 3:50PM
^^ The prevalence of those ignorant stereotypes suggests that people rarely adopt such beliefs on the basis of scientific evidence. I'm not saying the study you cited is correct but supposing it is, why should we assume that these finding will ever become the common view? Stephen Jay Gould debunked the psuedo-science behind a lot of racism over thirty years ago in his book The Mismeasure of Man, yet racist views based on false beliefs about human biology are still put forth on a regular basis. People decide what their prejudices are and then find " evidence" to support them afterwards. Do you think a racist who believes black women have loose pussies is going to be swayed by these findings? Scientific facts don't really matter to bigots, otherwise they wouldn't be bigots.
Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 7/20/2016 3:51:28 PM
 
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:02PM
'Doesn't count'? Excellent rebuttal. How convienent for you. My examples range from the 60s to the present so I'm not sure why you've decided the 80s in particular somehow 'doesn't count.'
You claimed that the supposed feminity of Asian men prevented them from being sex symbols, I was simply proving that feminity in a man doesn't prevent him from being a sex symbol, the contrary in fact.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:06PM
You have to realize that femininity is only allowed to an extent. The girls who drooled over Michael Jackson and Justin Bieber, were mostly teenage girls who hadn't even had their period yet. Those are the types of girls attracted to feminine looking men. Sexually however woman want a man who is more masculine, more dominant then them.
Bruce Lee and other Asian action stars like Jackie Chan are heralded for their fighting skills, but still to this day are de-masculinezed and portrayed as asexual.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:09PM
So only teen girls were attracted to David Bowie and Mick Jagger at their peaks?
Okay...
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:11PM
I would imagine bigots would have never slept with a black women to know if they are looser or not. If anything the fact that they quickly assumed they were looser because black males are bigger would make them not want to sleep with them.
With the new evidence it could change a few minds. There's never really been any studies on vaginal size. Penis size there has been, yet never on vaginal besides the research listed.
If anything I would think bigots would run with the idea of black women being tighter, black women give birth to smaller babies who have smaller heads than Asian and white babies.
Racist would love to rub in the fact that in their warped minds, "Blacks are dumber"
But of course they would ignore the fact that black babies after they born mature faster than white babies, so their heads after birth grow bigger to catch up and have superior motor skills.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:13PM
Bruce Lee is de-masculinezed and asexual?
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:17PM
Again, the 80's was an era where looking androgynous was in. Prince, David Bowie, Jagger all were from the 80's. Nowadays that's not what women are looking for.
Today's sex symbols are masculine, muscular, and manly.
Chris Hemsworth
Henry Cavill
Idris Elba
Vin Diesel
Channing Tatum
Ryan Reynolds
Jamie Dornan

The list goes on.

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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:17PM
Dude, stop feeding the troll.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:18PM
He is portrayed as asexual. Notice in movies with Asian fighters they never really seem interested in sex or women.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:28PM
I got to give it to Rider - he's quite clever. He's found a way to spread his racist nonsense by attributing it to others, not himself. He's well aware that if he came out directly and said "Asian men are feminine and girly with small penises", he'd get the ban-hammer right away. But instead, he uses the unidentifiable "others" to say it, to shield himself from possible criticism. After all, if someone accuses him of racism, he could throw up his hands and say, "Hey, it's not ME who feels this way. OTHER people feel this way!". Despite the excellent points that BlackSix made, he continues to push his false agenda, disguising it as someone else's agenda. I was a little saddened when I read some of this stuff last night, but now I have a grudging admiration for him.
to Rider! From now on, if anyone on ADT wants to say something disgustingly offensive, all they have to do is say that "It's a known belief - most people feel this way" and they'll be fine.
Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:48PM
You all seem pretty ignorant of these issues. I don't think Asian men are feminine. However, society does.
You should educate yourselves:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/11/lies-asian-american-men/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS2jGfW5aOE

 
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:55PM
You seem confused, Jagger was at his peak and most androgynous in the late 60s, Bowie was at his peak and most androgynous throughout the 70s. Only Prince can be said to be 'from the 80's.'
Vin Diesel is a sex symbol? Don't think so, particularly these days.
Mentioned Channing Tatum as one of your masculine sex symbols is most amusing to anyone who has seen him in Magic Mike or This is the End.
As for Bruce Lee, have you bothered to watch any of his films? He has a love interest or girlfriend in most of them and to think his half naked, often glistening body had no erotic appeal for the audience is the height of naivety.

Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 4:59PM
Jagger had the lean body type, but he was always considered manly simply because he surrounded himself with beautiful women same as Prince, so they were able to get away with the feminine behavior.
David Bowie was big in the 70's but the same formula applies.
As for Bruce Lee, he rarely had any love interest in his movies.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 5:14PM
Jagger and Bowie were both widely considered fruits and derided as such, just read the contemporary response to them in the press. Bowie openly claimed he was gay in the 70s.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Bruce Lee, he made four films, in two of them (Fists of Fury, The Big Boss) he has a gf and romantic interest respectively.
Do you just make things up as you go? Your ignorant responses suggest a troll at this point. Think I'll take HW advice at this point.

Rider_9381
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 5:22PM
Jagger and Bowie appealed to the hippie crowd that was prevalent in the 60's and 70's. That isn't most women today.
If you look at most sex symbols today they are all muscly and masculine, aside from teenage boys who appeal to younger girls, older women like more masculine men.
You can believe what you want but you're beating a dead horse with trends that have long since passed.
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Posted - Jul 20 2016 : 5:33PM
Since this thread seems to be nothing more than veiled racist trolling, I think it is done.
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