I used to watch porn. I still do but I used to, too. 1506 Posts 8/09
Posted - Sep 12 2020 : 3:55AM
I seriously think we're getting a DP in this scene because Elsa's voiceover makes reference to fantasizing about fucking two friends and letting them do whatever they want. I think they are saving the reveal for when the scene drops.
I guess i am not alone that been waiting for this for years, and we get at least two anal scenes judging from trailer, a DP also would be insane and I agree there is a fair chance for this also.
So what are we gonna se from Elsa after this showcase? Is this her cash in and she is gone or back to similiar scenes as before?
1. Given that this is a first (in at least 2-3 ways) ever showcase for both parties, I'd imagine that one of the requirements was getting her boobs done.
2. Since it looks like they're going to piecemeal release the scenes, I seriously would not get excited about those 2 black guys DPing her in that scene, nor would I expect to see any sort of DP in at least the next 6 months. I could be wrong, but where would the company go from there? They probably have the exclusive on anal for a while, so why not milk it for all its worth before dropping an IR DP.
3. I didn't see the point of Elsa riding in the jet or the Rolls SUV as far as it relates to doing anal other than possibly tax deductions for VMG.
If you look at previous Tushy showcases, the Riley one did fare well with almost no boobies, yet included anal, ir anal and dp. Ditto for the Eva Lovia showcase movie, and also for the latest one, the Abigail Mac movie (though admittedly, she's by no means flat chested). And the Lana showcase was done pre-boob (and -butt) job.
Vixen has also done a showcase (Tori's "After Dark"), so this isn't something new to Vixen either.
About the question where do you go from there? Back in the day, Tushy had an exclusivity deal for anal with Riley, so if you wanted to see her doing anal, you had to go to Tushy. Could be something similar in place here.
About the tax writeoff for the plane and Rolls Royce. Well, that's like your opinion, man. So I guess if this is a "movie", then you have to incorporate some type of backstory, and if you're playing into the whole "luxury" "influencer" stuff, then you gotta have your Gulfstream and Rolls Royce.
remember when back in the day, Elegant Angel had "Superstar September"? There were usually ~4 showcases out that month, those were the days!
2008: Kristina Rose Dirty Girls, Rebeca Linares Raw 2009: Tori Black is Pretty Filthy, Evalutionary 2010: Jayden Jaymes Unleashed, Asa Akira is Insatiable, Tori Black is Pretty Filthy 2, Nyomi Banxxx is Hardcore 2011: Kagney Linn Karter is Relentless, Gracie Glam: Lust, Asa Akira is Insatiable 2 2012: Lexi, Lily Carter is Irresistible, Dani Daniels: Dare, Asa Akira is Insatiable 3, Skin, Remy, Evalutionary 2 2013: Remy 2, Mia (the Elegant Angel one, that was completed after Mason's departure) ... (it went downhill from here)
With HardX, no such pace: Maddy, Anikka (2013), Anikka 2, Allie, Keisha (2014), Abella, Remy (2015), Anikka vs. Kelis, Mia (2016) Lana Unleashed (2017) Nothing since :(
But comparing the Elegant Angel showcases with the Tushy ones also reveals big changes: an example: with the Lexi or Tori Black (1st one), we got 5 scenes, and the highlight was one anal scene. In the Tushy showcases, all scenes are (at the very least) anal, but we also get DPs and more...
Looks like the Tushy DVDs always are released around the first week of the month. (the TushyRaw one week earlier)
Vixen: middle of the Month Blacked: after Tushy, but before Vixen Blacked Raw: same as Vixen
The announcement for October's DVD title is due next Monday or Tuesday. So I guess we'll know then if the Showcase gets put up next, or later.
Looking back, only the Lana and Riley showcases were out-of-order and there were two releases for their months, respectively.
(browsing back, I totally forgot that there were "Blacked" showcases, too: Dani Daniels Deeper in 2014, Carter Cruise Obsession in 2015, Kendra's Obsession in 2017)
First off, "boobies? Really, you're how old? But I digress.
This isn't back in the day and Elsa's situation isn't Riley, Eva, nor Lana's. Riley also shot anal for JJV about the same she shot for Tushy.com. Based on IAFD.
Also, 2015 was the earlier days of whatever variation of VMG was in effect at that time. It was also heavily Lansky influenced. It's 5 years later, VMG is at a completely different level business wise and Lansky is gone. Thus, using a 5+ year old business model as a comparison basis for today's company is not ideal. If you presented that argument to a class of business students, the Q & A wouldn't be pretty.
Riley didn't shoot anal for another company until 2017 for Dogfart. All those Jules Jordan Video mentions on IAFD are because the DVDs from Blacked and Tushy were distributed at that time by JJV. Eva doesn't have an anal scene outside of her showcase (except for her Onlyfans), probably also because she retired from mainstream shortly after. The Lana situation is known. There was this whole conundrum with Pierre, the parallel showcase for HardX etc.
I was only mentioning that these Tushy showcases had it all. Assuming this new Elsa thing is part of a showcase (which apparently it is), and it is for Tushy, I would pissed of if it didn't include all anal scenes. About the DP... Meh, don't know if Elsa is/was willing to do it. But withholding it for another upcoming showcase would also be wonky: that 2nd showcase then would include more of the same, but wait... now also with DP! We're not in 2010 anymore where the subsequent Elegant Angel showcases did things like this.
^You'd know better than I would on Tushy showcases. I was going on the Elsa boxcover where it indicated the 1st "Tushy" Showcase. That's my whole basis. I'm with you on the DP issue. She's a smaller girl, and those BBC's were looking a bit large. Would she be able to take it? Would she want to?
I'm also with you on holding a DP until Elsa Pt. 2 or even Pt 3 if a blowbang were included. Not that it'll happen with VMG, the blowbang, that is.
Edited by - Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider on 9/12/2020 6:41:32 PM
^ we'll have to see if showcase movies will again be a regular thing. Then they might stretch out things for upcoming releases.
Interesting fact: Both the "After Dark" and "Abigail" movies had something most modern DVDs don't have anymore: Special Packaging: A slip cover with iridescent lettering (Abigail) or even a slip cover with a fold-out top cover (After Dark). With the distribution shift to Pulse instead of JJV I doubt something like that is happening. I mean, also the quality has dropped significantly. Previously, JJV-distributed DVDs hat 7-8 GB for 3 hours of movie, now the Pulse distributed have 4 GB (often only single layer).
I know that the far superior quality simply is with the online video, but that's no excuse to further decrease the DVD quality - some people like to have something for their shelf to display. The only reason I can think of is they don't give a fuck and make it as cheap as possible.
It looks like it's going to be a great anal debut. I'm glad they're making it an event much like they did with Riley Reid's TUSHY debut years ago. I really don't care if Elsa did anal or not but since she is this is a great way to do it. She's obviously trying to take her career in a new direction. The bigger boobs and doing anal should help her stay in the game longer and expand her fanbase plus get her work from studios who probably didn't book girls of her type before. I wish her luck and I'm curious to where this new path takes her. I don't think she'll be a Holly Hendrix or Jane Wilde type of extreme performer but I think we'll start to see her in some Jules Jordan and Evil Angel type performances in the future.
I can't image Elsa going back to only doing the type of scenes she did before. Getting a boobjob and deciding to do anal are clear indicators that she wants to take her career in a new direction. A girl can only do the type of porn she's been doing for so long before those studios just start using her less because you're playing the same kinds of roles over and over again. What Elsa was doing wasn't as limiting as being stuck in the "barely legal" genre but after awhile most girls like her want to move on from the "daughter", "sister" "young girlfriend" "son's girlfriend" "daughters friend" type roles. I personally hope she doesn't pop up everywhere doing anal for awhile and the anal scenes she decides to do are well thought out and somehwat "special" for at least a little while (which I know none of you want to happen) but she can get more mileage out of it if she isn't doing it all the time from here on out. I kinda like the way Riley did it (except Elsa doesn't have a site that I know of).
I guess I was wrong with my prediction that the entire movie would be announced for release on September 29th, simply because that would be the normal rhythm the Uhsy DVDs and movies are announced. But instead, we get a Deeper DVD on 9/22 ("Dance for Me") and another Deeper release on 9/29 ("Excess", with Elsa (and Riley Steele) on the cover). I guess they shuffled things around in order to not reveal the rest of the scenes prematurely.
Ok....and your point is? I'm saying she looks [mod edit: comment removed. See the ADT forum etiquette. Adult DVD Talk is a Community of Porn Fans and Industry Insiders Please do not talk about pornstars, directors or producers as if they are not here. (Katsumi sums it up nicely.) We are lucky to have industry participants, and they are paying attention to your constructive criticism. Insults will get you nowhere and lead to the deactivation of your forum account. If you work in the industry please be honest about your porn connections. See our Member Directory for a list of stars, directors, producers and other insiders who participate.] and you're defending her by saying she doesn't think about me? Lol You can keep jerking off to this plastic face girl with fake boobs if you want.
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Posted - Sep 16 2020 : 6:01AM
I for myself prefer how she looked before, for me she was far more attractive has a natural teen, she looked unique. Now she looks like your usual random blonde bimbo. Ofc if she feels good on her change and other people like it then good. I'm stating an opinion.
Thus I'm not hyped or excited (my dick simply cannot get hard watching this) for this release and will not watch it and peacefully move on.
^^ Do you equate calling you out on saying someone "literally looks gross", which goes against forum etiquette with a defence of their cosmetic changes? Very astute, aren't you?
^^ To be honest it's time to move on. There's not a whole load of point saying you don't like Elsa's new look. Just stop following her and leave the rest of us who love the new look to appreciate her.
I am a fan of natural look. But it´s her choice and I either stop following her and do not post here or accept the decision she made knowing that there are many members here who really like her new look.
So, let´s just praise the day she finally opens her sweet butthole for us!! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the show case.
I was just reading AVN, and the article was saying there are 5 anal scenes in this release. 2 MFM, 1 G/G, and 2 M/F. No mention at all on any surprises or DPs. First scene is out tomorrow.
Wondering, has Elsa put some weight? I have not watched her Tushy scenes, just the trailers, but got this impression, especially trom the last trailer (Influence part 3). Or maybe I am just being fooled by her big tits and I'm looking at her differently... thoughts from the ones who watched the scenes?
The Tushy anal scene is just what one would expect from the VMG. The opening is very stylish visually with about 5-6 minutes of setup plot. After the set up, the guy enters the room and discovers Elsa with a signature model butt plug in her ass. The guy does a little pussy and ass licking with some gentle anal fingering.
Elsa gives the guy head for a few minutes . The guy tosses her salad briefly from behind before going doggy with her.
From a time stance point of view, this scene is roughly 30 minutes and we're at the 16-17 minute mark for the start of penetration.
After a minute or 2 of doggy, they cut to Elsa's face and she says, "You know what I want? I want you to fuck my ass!"
This is the moment of insertion. (I'm assuming a scene shot is ok, my bad if not!)
After a few minutes like this, Elsa says, "I want to taste it!" and does a quick Ass to Mouth before Elsa climbs on in cowgirl.
3-4 minutes later Elsa does another Ass to Mouth as a lead in to a bit more anal in doggy.
The guy cums on her ass cheek.
Other notes: Having never seen a Tushy scene before, I'm not completely sure what their style is but there is a focus on her lower areas. There was an edit between the regular doggy and the anal insertion as Elsa went from wearing her outfit to being nude. We barely got to see Elsa's new tits on display as there was no full on shots of both of them at the same time. A couple of times during the anal, we'd get to see one of them but no real shots of both as is indicated in the screen shot above.
Edited by - Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider on 9/24/2020 12:19:51 PM