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Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
610 Posts
7/07
Posted - Jul 17 2007 : 8:33AM
Ladies & gentlemen,
Anybody have any opinions or new info on the next storage media type?
We know solid state is the way it's all going.
But what comes after that??
And also, people buying software, music & movies on disc; excluding internet membership downloads as they are not always practical (think high street shopping), what form will that take?
Perhaps walking into the shop and paying to copy the product onto your USB key?
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:41AM
Well, I have a big problem with paying for 1s and 0s. What I mean to say is that I don't mind paying for digits if they're already on a physical format like a CD or a DVD but I feel a bit ripped off paying for an information exchange. Since digital information isn't a tangible thing like a disc or an LP or a tape, you have nothing to hold in your hand. It just feels....cheap and tacky. Especially when what you're paying for is low bit rate MP3 or other highly compressed formats.
Personally, I kinda dread the shift away from physical formats. I know there's really not much difference and it's mainly a packaging issue but.....
And as far as what's next after chips? I have no idea. I don't read those magazines that tell you what the state of the art will be like in 20 years anymore. I don't know what they're working on. Don't really want to know.
conquistador
Deactivated User

Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 12:53AM
Maybe protein coated discs. They are supposed to allow up to 50TB of storage.
There is another thread about these on here. Look for it if you're interested.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:26AM
Renugopalakrishnan and his team modified the requisite microbes' DNA to produce proteins capable of maintaining that intermediary state for several years.
I don't think many people will be interested in protein disks if 'several years' is the longest they'll hold data.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

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8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 1:42AM
I'm thinking that whatever comes after solid state memory isn't going to use any moving parts. Once we get away from actual physical drives with parts that wear out, to go back to a disc wouldn't make much sense.
Then again....do silicon chips ever wear or burn out....or something?
It could be that we'll never have a truly permanent storage media. And I doubt many manufacturers really want to sell it to us. They wanna make their stuff good. But they need you to buy more in a few years as well.
 
croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 22 2007 : 5:55AM
They don't need to have anything wear out - people don't erase much. The size of media has grown pretty fast, so people just transfer everything when they upgrade.
But with high speed connections, music collections, photos and porn, video people are filling up those drives fast enough.
Kensington Chapp
Senior Citizen

Mine is the biggest.
610 Posts
7/07
Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 11:00AM
Maybe little memory cards? Plug 'n' Play types.. like pre-loaded USB keys or SD cards or something.
I see what you mean about the packaging thing, but even that may get phased out eventually.
Personally, I'd prefer something smaller, more stable and idiot-proof than a CD or DVD.
If you let it fall on the floor or some kid with greasy SFC fingers gropes it, its on its way out.
cubesnake
Senior Member

3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 4:36PM
Hi,
I´ve been asking this myself. I decided for me i´m not gonna buy every "new gimmic" the industry creates. I may be wrong but resources are getting smaller and smaller ... no one needs every title transfered to yet another kind of storage media. The ones you want are most likely not available anyway. I´m afraid that one day (and it´s not sooo far away) the whole media "thing" will bite it´s own ass ... maybe in a few years (?) a few of us will enjoy those "ancient" vinyls again while all CDs/DVDs and whatever is already rotten (or about to) due to companies with nothing but moneysigns in their eyes. Profit over quality.
Solid state storage may sound good but ... wait until the next thunderstorm and ... baam ...everything is gone to hell
Cube
Edited by - cubesnake on 8/5/2007 4:38:23 PM
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 5:27PM
Remember the little "crystals" that they'd plug into the panels in Star Trek? There's already work underway to replicate a similar type of technology for storage purposes. Makes silicon-based storage (RAM) completely obsolete if it works.
Personally, I think before you'll see giant leaps in storage medium, you'll see the porn biz move away from media "sold" altogether. Instead, you'll see memberships to large libraries of digital media, including first-run/new releases, piped into the home via some form of high-speed connectivity. Storage will become a non-issue as you've got millions of titles to watch at the touch of a button. This eliminates DRM issues as well.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

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8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 5:47PM
^I really, really hope we never get that enthralled with "Use and throw away". I've spent a good portion of my life trying to figure out how to preserve things that I felt worth preserving. Advancing technology is one thing. Allowing the advancement of technology to kill the spirit of something like collecting is unforgivable.
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 7:25PM
I disagree.
As long as you have husbands and boyfriends sneaking porn privately, there will always be a need for physical media.
Also, with today's government spying and excesses, computer viruses and malware, cookies, identity theft, the danger of minors watching porn on your computer and on-and-on... I can't ever imagine leaving my personal life open to such consequences.
BTW, let's see if the mainstream media empires ever decides to distribute their libraries in the manner you envision.
I agree that the technology will eventually permit it, but I don't ever see it becoming the new economic model.
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Aug 6 2007 : 12:19AM
Oh they are already distributing it. They give you the storage medium for "free" now with the advent of cable boxes with built-in DVR's. Then they give you on-demand....and then they eliminate the DVR as the on-demand movie selection becomes larger and larger.
What do you think the long-term business model is for iTunes? I assure you, it's not in selling mega-capacity iPods. It's the iPhone...wireless access to a huge library of content, streaming to the device (or one like it) and never requiring storage at all. Jobs has already pushed this vision out there.
The SPA recently released a study that showed that more than 45% of all new software licenses issued were done so on downloaded software applications. Soon, you won't download anything but just access it via local thin-client. Quicken and TurboTax, the two most popular applications for home PC users for the past 5 years running, are now 100% web-accessible with the application and your data being stored server-side for a nominal fee.
And while I agree with your belief that the world of viruses, malware, cookies, viruses are all royal PITA's for PC users, please bear in mind that these are all CLIENT side issues. Server-side application and data storage could all but eradicate this problem. This makes for some juicy hacker targets, to be sure, but I think the masses of computer users out there would gladly give up the hassles of dealing with these issues as they escalate beyond the ability of the common soccer mom to deal with them. Computing is just now hitting mainstream....early cusp of mass market adoption. Networked PC's were just ahead of their time in the adoption cycle. Think I'm full of it? Go tell this to Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony. Their gaming devices are little more than network PC's with controlled digital media distribution via DVD....for now. Xbox Live is changing that model already.
Unfortunately, I don't believe in consumer-led demand for greater storage capacity. Consumers will make decisions based on their wallets. When the market economies make it cheaper to get it as a streaming offering than for the "premium" of getting a physical hard-copy version of the same content, the tipping point will be achieved. It sounds alien now because we aren't there yet. But if Moore's law is right, you'll see bandwidth speeds outpacing storage capacity within the decade.



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