Just to weigh in, for no particular reason, on the issue of anti-semitism and bigotry in general: I, too, am Jewish, the son of a kvetching Jewish mother, and married to a shiksa. HW's assertions regarding the unsavory qualities of Jewish women are the most common slights thrown around. They are very common among Jewish men of a certain age. That he offers them as TRUTH is silly and appropriately smacked down by Bob. But, personally, I find them far less offensive coming from a boychick from the shtetl (probably reading in a little too much about your pedigree, Woody, but ... who cares?) than I do from a non-Jew. That isn't to say they're benign; they're a little crass. But the same slights from a goy would strike me as crude bigotry.
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Posted - Aug 19 2009 : 4:28PM
Thank you, i think you have a much better grasp of where i am coming from. They were not meant to be offensive. They were my life observations. ok all jewish women don't bitch a lot, just the ones I have known do. I am sure there is exceptions to that rule, i'm sure I know a Jewish woman that doesn't kvetch, I just can't think of one.
For what it's worth, I'm glad you're having second thoughts. And to clarify, I did not regard you as a bigot because you married a Gentile, but because of the reasons you gave for it. Jewish porn starlets are also Jewish women. How many of them have you known to be kvetchers? Not just the ones on my list, but the retirees. Did Annie Sprinkle kvetch? Does Nina Hartley, Melissa Monet, Isis Taylor or Dana DeArmond kvetch?
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Posted - Aug 19 2009 : 8:54PM
that is a misconception about jewish women. its a stereotype like saying all white people are nazi hicks or black guys are thugs with huge shlongs and all latins are mexicans. kinda sounds dumb now. most jewish women i know (and that is alot) are very humble!!!
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 12:11PM
Porn stars are the exception, they don't kvetch. Funny you never mentioned Barbara Dare, Stacy Mitnick. I think you are misunderstanding me, first of all I am anything but a bigot. I am probably the most liberal guy you will ever meet. The comments I made were mostly in jest, just observations. I grew up in an all Jewish neighborhood, except for 1 black kid and 1 italian kid, both of whom were close friends of mine. Alot of my Jewish friends dropped me when I started hanging out with the black kid. The black kid turned out to be Arsenio Hall. I have been in this business for over 25 years, most of the women you mentioned are friends of mine. I've known Nina for 25 years. But back to the subject, The Jewish porn movie has been done before. This is not a first. It didn't make me want to buy it then, and it still doesn't now. I'm not sure it's necessary to segregate a group to sell porno. A religion that is. Just my opinion.
Hey Sheldon When you have a minute can you call me about the 2257 Notice on the websites and DVDs... Thanks Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com www.2257Safe.com
Did someone say "kvetching?" It's funny. I was just thinking a while back that I'd love to see a movie featuring the hottest Jewish girls in the biz. I was thinking of Joanna Angel, Britney Stevens, Louisa Lanewood, Kelly Kline if she could be coaxed out of retirement, and of course Nina Hartley. Somebody read my mind, I guess. For whatever it's worth. I have a pretty big thing for Jewish women. I think it's because I worked in retail for so long. Every night, I'd go home thinking about Jewish housewives - that dark hair, those yoga pants and tennis skirts, that Brooklyn accent. I can't put a finger on it. I remember from that Seinfeld episode that, supposedly, Jewish men are crazy for Gentile women. They called it "Shiksappeal." Now, if I'm Irish, what would you call that?
So you were misunderstood? I wasn't the only one here who thought you were serious. Take responsibilty for your remarks. The Jewish porn movie has been done before? Really? Title, please. Nice Jewish Girls, from what I've seen so far, isn't being marketed solely as religion-based. Check out the title of this thread. There was nothing deliberate about my excluding Barbara Dare from my post. I was just throwing out a few examples.
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That's hilarious. That's a sex comedy all by itself.
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I didn't know Jewish women had an outstanding physical characteristic to make it worthwhile to make a porn with Jewish women as a central focus. Maybe it's like the whole Catholic schoolgirl thing I guess. Judging from the list it looks like it will be a porn with a bunch of white women with a few ethnic variations that will do what to make it known they're Jewish? Are they going to be speaking Hebrew or be engaged in acts of heresy against the Jewish faith? Not sure what the angle is. Are they trying to a attract more male Jewish porn buyers who can't stand looking at women from another ethinc group? It seems more difficult to attract an audience wanting to buy a porn because the women are from a particular religious affiliation rather than a particular ethnic group with visibly different physical traits from the white norm. But I guess we'll see if a market for Jewish women somehow materializes. Not something I could imagine being into as I don't quite get how looking at Tera Patrick of Isis Taylor is going to make me think Jewish. I don't think Jewish when I see Nina Hartley. I think blonde with nice big butt. Is that a Jewish trait? I doubt it. But maybe it will work. Good porn with hot women is good porn with hot women. That will always sell regardless of the title.
(Quote from Pornlaw: Hey Sheldon When you have a minute can you call me about the 2257 Notice on the websites and DVDs... Thanks Michael) Desperate to contact your client, huh? I'd try him at home, considering that you took an oath not to discuss your client's business with anyone without his express permission. I hope Sheldon is not in too much trouble. On a better note, thanks for commenting on general legal issues discussed here. It is appreciated and gives us a better idea of what the industry is like. Edited by - mharris127 on 8/20/2009 11:25:03 PM
What is this, some practical joke? I don't have a lawyer named Michael and I am currently not involved commercially in the adult business. You are clearly mistaking me for someone else, if this is at all serious.
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 12:29PM
So you were misunderstood? I wasn't the only one here who thought you were serious. Take responsibilty for your remarks. The Jewish porn movie has been done before? Really? Title, please. Nice Jewish Girls, from what I've seen so far, isn't being marketed solely as religion-based. Check out the title of this thread. There was nothing deliberate about my excluding Barbara Dare from my post. I was just throwing out a few examples. [/quote] I take responsibility for my remarks, they weren't meant to be offensive, you need to lighten up. The titles were called Yiddish Erotica. 1987 Have you even seen this movie? If it isn't based on religion why is it called nice jewish girls? if it isn't based on religion why is the "Rabbi" jerking off on a matzo and making the girls eat it? Why is some girl being restrained with a Tallis? Why are they shoving a dreidal up some girls ass? Why is there yiddish all over the cover? I'm thinking you haven't even seen this movie. Edited by - hollywood woody on 8/21/2009 5:56:07 PM Edited by - hollywood woody on 8/21/2009 5:59:01 PM
I take responsibility for my remarks, they weren't meant to be offensive, you need to lighten up. The titles were called Yiddish Erotica. 1987 Have you even seen this movie? If it isn't based on religion why is it called nice jewish girls? if it isn't based on religion why is the "Rabbi" jerking off on a matzo and making the girls eat it? Why is some girl being restrained with a Tallis? Why are they shoving a dreidal up some girls ass? Why is there yiddish all over the cover? I'm thinking you haven't even seen this movie. Edited by - hollywood woody on 8/21/2009 5:56:07 PM Edited by - hollywood woody on 8/21/2009 5:59:01 PM
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"Yiddish Erotica" was an infamous compilation tape putvout by Jeff Steinberg's Essex company. There was absolutely no Jewish content in it, no Jewish performers or even performers pretending to be Jewish. I was so enraged by that rip-off that I was glad that Steinberg went to jail years later, albeit on an unrelated matter. I never said I saw "Nice Jewish Girls". And, Yiddish, dreidls and matzoh are not exclusive to religious Jews - those elements are part of secular Jewish heritage as well. Edited by - Sheldon on 8/21/2009 9:35:29 PM
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 10:43PM
Well there you have it. Now everyone and their best friend, is a jew. **yawns*
"Yiddish Erotica" was an infamous compilation tape putvout by Jeff Steinberg's Essex company. There was absolutely no Jewish content in it, no Jewish performers or even performers pretending to be Jewish. I was so enraged by that rip-off that I was glad that Steinberg went to jail years later, albeit on an unrelated matter. I never said I saw "Nice Jewish Girls". And, Yiddish, dreidls and matzoh are not exclusive to religious Jews - those elements are part of secular Jewish heritage as well. Edited by - Sheldon on 8/21/2009 9:35:29 PM
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Haha. So enraged you were happy to see a guy go to jail. That cracks me up imagining some guy screaming at another guy being dragged off by the police for making imitation Jewish porn. ROFLMAO.
Jeff Steinman's partners and investors didn't feel it so funny when he mismanaged their money (to the tune of $1 million), leading Essex Video to bankruptcy. He was a rip-off artist through and through. Folks like that deserve to be be cooling their heels in the slammer. When you're the victim of a rip-off, do you think the perpetrator should be given a medal?
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Posted - Aug 24 2009 : 12:56PM
"Yiddish Erotica" was an infamous compilation tape putvout by Jeff Steinberg's Essex company. There was absolutely no Jewish content in it, no Jewish performers or even performers pretending to be Jewish. I was so enraged by that rip-off that I was glad that Steinberg went to jail years later, albeit on an unrelated matter. I never said I saw "Nice Jewish Girls". And, Yiddish, dreidls and matzoh are not exclusive to religious Jews - those elements are part of secular Jewish heritage as well. Edited by - Sheldon on 8/21/2009 9:35:29 PM
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I knew you haven't even seen this movie. Our conversation is over. You are arguing about something you know nothing about. Watch the movie then argue.
I came across a web site (with Hebrew and English versions) that was an Israeli porn link that had Israeli Jews fucking each other and local Arabs. Seemed to especially feature Israeli and Arab gay male stuff. I thought I had bookmarked it but couldn't find it. It's something like a para, or parv? Anyone know what I'm talking about (didn't remember them releasing DVDs)
I wasn't aware that protesting offensive stereotypes made me an authority figure.
Since when are personal opinions immune to bigotry?
There is no significant difference between 'only kidding' and 'only in jest'. Ever hear of paraphrasing? Only I have 'no sense of humor'?? Was I the only one objecting to your remarks on this thread? Was I the only one who perceived the serious tone of your objection to Jewish women? Scroll back up on this thread, Woody, and refresh your memory. Edited by - Sheldon on 8/25/2009 10:32:42 PM
But you implied I was posing as one, calling me, for instance, "President", when I simply pointed out the bigotry of your remarks.
Bad analogy. You're a Jewish MAN badmouthing Jewish WOMEN as a group in ways no different from many anti-Semites. The Jewish filmmakers who founded Hollywood were just such Jews. Do you call yourself Hollywood Woody out of solidarity with their mindset?
Bob and CarbonT did not see the "jest" either. To be generous, you did not express yourself in a way that would be widely perceived as joking.
Again, what is the difference? Are you being purposefully dense?
Bob talked about Jewish women in his life, so that's personal. You keep distorting, I keep responding... Edited by - Sheldon on 8/26/2009 10:58:17 PM
If you two don't give it up I'll have no choice but to lock this thread because it now has nothing to do with the film. Start a thread in WN&N called "Sheldon & Woody wanna argue" and continue there.
Woody was upset because I called him out on his bad attitudes, so he continuously issued distortions of fact or what I had previously posted. OK, now I'm done...
There are WAY more Jewish women in porn than you guys have listed..WAAAY. This industry is dominated by Jews from top to bottom....Im not saying thats bad or good it just is. I could way deep into this but wont but trust me when I tell you there are many jewish girls in porn.
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I like all porn personally! Any color any race! Some look better than others but honestly who are we to be so picky? We are watching porn to fantasize and to masturbate . . haha However, everyone has there favorite thing about a woman and fetish. I commend all the women of the industry!! My hats off to you for making me happy without even knowing it!! lol Hispanic and Asian are my favorites!!!!!! yahooooooo. .. haha
It's now "Official" - Tera Patrick is not Jewish. An e-mail from Evan Seinfeld, Tera's husband, was forwarded to me in which he said that the name "Shapiro" was added to her real birth name on the Bio page of www.terapatrick.com (her offical website) by a former employee of the website, presumably a disgruntled one. Evan and Tera almost never check their website, according to reliable sources. If I were a porn star with a top-notch website, it would not speak well for my business acumen if I almost never checked it out.
I tend to agree. I understand not checking every page (some sites have hundreds) but not checking the "about me" page is just dumb as a rock! That sort of surprises me about Tera, she seems to be reasonably intelligent from the bit that I have seen about her. If I were her I would check now, she can check half and her husband can check the other half (I assume she can trust her husband at least). BTW, "Shapiro" is not overly Jewish (it may be Hebrew, however -- I don't know for sure there), that attorney of OJ's name is Robert Shapiro and he seems to be about as Jewish as Osama Bin Laden and Barack Obama combined. Edited by - mharris127 on 9/25/2009 12:36:51 AM
Happy Rosh Hashonah to All!! This past Jewish year (September 2008 - August 2009) has seen a record-breaking number of Jewish starlets in the business. And what was the outgoing Jewish year? 5769!!! There is a God... Edited by - Sheldon on 9/25/2009 5:47:04 PM