So, Jake Malone tells me that effective immediately there's no more choking, spitting, slapping or rough stuff in Redlight movies? Anybody have any thoughts on this? Are we losing the last really hardcore company to some fucking lawyer somewhere? Say it ain't so!!!
Personally I wouldn't care if I ever saw any of those things in a scene again. I like hard sex but I have never cared for those three things especially the slapping and choking. If that is important to you then I'm sorry if RLD won't be doing that anymore but as a fan of theirs I won't miss it.
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Posted - Aug 26 2004 : 10:25PM
Yeah, I heard the same thing goes for PXP. :( I am disappointed because I enjoy these things, especially the slapping, in my personal life and as talent in the movies.
But, hey just cause we won't be doing this stuff doesn't mean we can't still make smokin' hot, nasty movies!
Interesting the things that are deemed "obscene" by community standards and distributors and the things that aren't, isn't it?
Companies may be making a preemptive move. The election are 2 months, and nobody knows who is going to be in Washington. Even though Asscroft is spending more time keeping the country safe from porn and less time worrying about real problems (Osama springs to mind. The next time he puts out a video, someone needs to get his shooting schedule so he can finally be caught), the companies are just seeing what is going to be happening after the elections. For right now, maybe it's best, even though I don't like it. Then, probably later on, they will return to putting out top flight adult fare.
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Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 12:04AM
Good. I don't want to see choking, spitting, and slapping in my porn. And although folks will say, "Well Jesus Christ, just don't buy RLD shit" but I like RLD shit.
Another possible motivation, and this is just a guess, but lately a lot of retailers and distributors seem to be much more concerned than usual with the content of the product that they buy. Is it because Bush might get re-elected? I have no idea but if the choice one is faced with is having the "artistic freedom" to bludgeon a teenage girl with a bowling trophy while a simultaneous double anal takes place or make more money by selling less offensive fare to squeamish distributors, the choice will always be with the money.
The day that a major buyer says "I don't want anymore quadruple anal bondage bukkake fisting movies because I'm afraid to sell it" there will cease to be any in production.
This news saddens me. Cobalt doesn't like being sad. Well, thanks for the memories. To everything, turn, turn, turn...
The spitting, sure, but the rest? I should reserve comment. I don't have the mental faculties about me at the moment to properly disgorge my disappointment and disdain. Besides, I miss Walter, and if there's no chance of being quoted: fuck it. Fuck it all .
Or not, whatever. Jesus cobalt, get a new hobby.
Well, I still love rough sex, always have, always will, and my official statement, as if it really fucking matters, is: fuck that; there's already a Vivid. Fuck community standards, fuck the Moral Majority, fuck it ALLLLLLL.....
Oh man: It's not Jake's fault, he's just the messenger in this case. I would imagine he's bummed out, since he makes some of the better rough-edge stuff out there. Though, it's not necessarily a bad thing if it means directors will be more creative in other ways to generate heat and intensity. And I'm sure ol' Joey Silvera won't be changing his ways. Wow: Heather Cables and Sativa Rose in Hellcats 3 . What tha ... friggin' Jesus! Fantastic scene! A silly girl slap party that just rocks, and is way sexy, and fun, and doesn't leave you with a sour feeling in the pit of your stomach, like you've witnessed something wrong . It was just ... rambunctious , ya know? I like rambunctious sex. I Love It Rambunctious . Yeah, yeah. That's the ticket!
Gotta wonder, though. how Brandon's gonna make another "Love It Rough" for PXP if there's no more "rough" in the cards? Will the series now be called "I Love Fluffy Bunny Tender Sex"?
I don't think RLD has a rep for rough, really. That's more PXP's turf. But, honestly, their stuff isn't that rough either. Even Riot Sluts is focused on other things, things like orgasmic intensity , and charged, but kinda playful, erotic engagements. I mean, there's the usual elements -- lotsa fluids flying, lotsa manhandling -- but we're not talking Meatholes .
I think it was actually originated by the Iron Sheik who used it to win the WWF Championship from Bob Backlund in the early eighties. But Sgt. Slaughter was able to escape it.
I read this and it make's me so sad. I love the style of redlights and pxp movies, I loved it every time I had a hand across my face and especially around my neck.. I dont see what the problem is with it? Redlight had brought more out me than anyone could. This is sad news....
It's certainly odd. As obscenity concerns go, I understand that spitting is a lightning rod, but it seems less objectionable, from the Ashcroft-type perspective, than the stuff that will be left. What's the concept: "Don't spit on the girl's face, just jizz on it instead?" Weird.
That said, I'm a big supporter of people running their businesses however the hell they want. I won't miss any of that stuff. It would be unfortunate if this really is a case of someone not running it the way he wants, though.
Wow! I don't know who beelzebubba is, but I didn't say any such thing to anyone. I might have said that I try not to have choking in the scenes I shoot because some web sites that sell a lot of dvd's won't sell the title if it has choking in it, even if the girl is begging the guy to choke her. But I don't speak for Red Light District on this issue and all the directors make their own choices about what ends up in their titles.
You'll alway's get that from me I love what I do and it shows all over my face... Mr. Malone is very good at making me smile.. were gonna run off together,right babe.?
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Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 10:55AM
But a lot of actors do enjoy these things, Missy and I both have stated so in this thread. Many girls like it rough, believe me there isn't anyone forcing anyone else to do anything they don't want to in movies - well not at least at RLD and PXP. So shouldn't it be okay if the girl is into it? I think so.
of course it's ok depending on how it's portrayed. I'm sure everyone on this board loves watching a scene where the actors are into the action, probably regardless of the type of action. It's a much more personal experience for the fan (for me it is)
Do you think RLD are issuing this policy because of industry watch dogs or sales?
p.s. can't get enough of that avatar Kylie... ha ha, I'm so easily amused.
I'm against censorship on principle, and if the performers are happy to do and there is an audience who want to see it, then why not?
Myself though, I hate rough sex. I can't stand to see the women slapped around or choked. It kills my erection stone dead, and a little bit of it seems to go into a lot of scenes.
I think it was actually originated by the Iron Sheik who used it to win the WWF Championship from Bob Backlund in the early eighties. But Sgt. Slaughter was able to escape it.
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Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 2:00PM
Now someone needs to slap that smile *off* her face.
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Oatmeal, There is NO such policy at Red Light!! Read what I said earlier in this thread. I have no idea who this mook Beelezebubba is but he's full of shit. And I don't appreciate my name being used to put forth bullshit!
I can only wish that it was true. You know, its one thing to have that in a movie. Its another thing to have it in almost every movie out there. People that aren't creative enough to film (or act) 'Heat' (whatever your definition of that is) and substitute violence, anger, and mysogyny.
Of course, 80% of people don't understand the differenct between irony and leaden sarcasm, so I shouldn't be suprized.
As much as he may rock and he was very correct in explaining what a Camel Clutch is and its origins, what I think mason was thinking of in her original post ("No more Camel Clutches either") was the Full Nelson. I've never seen a girl put in the camel clutch in any movie (though, I'm sure it's possible in doggie, huh?) but I've seen plenty of chicks in reverse cowgirl and locked in a full nelson. It looks like so:
Yes, I did mean the camel clutch. It was just a silly response to a silly speculation. Everyone gets all up in arms over 1/2 truths, 1/4 truths, and out right nonsense. Sorry to be so glum, I just hate the way things are sometimes in cyberland--hence my recent absense. But, I'm trying to focus on the good stuff, and having a bit of fun at it too.
Even CAVR has finally started putting the Choking Rating Adjustment only as "Choking Rule Applies". However, if you want to see the best reviews you still have to scan for all the 8.5 or even 6.0 ratings to find the really gonzo titles which get our house rocking. When Tricia said she would pay Nacho to Slap her, she got my attention and M's. If she and Jewel would do a couple of scenes with John S. and Steve...IF, IF, and Mason would drop the burkha, and if monkeys could fly, sigh, porno dreams are forever. Without Perversions, Un-Natural Sex 12's 6.0 CAVR rating (!! how silly is that???) for the Melissa Lauren scene which changed things around the "boobie tube" (and the whole UNS series), and Anal Expedition 3 from start to finish, plus the I like it Rough Series, and all the 8.5's at CAVR, I will not be buying many new releases (Just kidding). I will distribute them. I have the best lawyers in the country. Ashcroft is arresting kids for downloading music. Not only could he not beat a dead man for his Senate bid, he is not going to win this Bush-league war either. Any kind of prohibition just makes the drive for presonal freedom and preservation of the Bill of Rights that much more of a certainty. Adult DVD Empire could at least LIST the titles in the filmographies and CAVR could footnote the ratings adjustment. Instead some poppycock spring break movie rates higher than all the EA, PXP, RDL, ZT, and other gonzo releases. Pretty soon Patriot heat-seeking, one-eyed moisture missiles will not be allowed into their silken silos without a red, white, and blew condom.
Posted - Aug 26 2004 : 9:58PM
