I'm starting to understand why Transsexual pornographic films are thrown into the gay category. And its because you don't really see Trannies banging girls at all. I own allot of films in the Tranny Catagory and I swear there are nothing but dudes in these films and they basically hog up the action. Meaning 89% of the time, men are banging the Trannies but the Trannies rarely get a turn so I often wonder "what is the point of them having their dick? If they're not going to use it other than to let the guy suck them off? I'm also starting to notice that there are way to many of these Brazil Transsexual films on the market. They are by far the worst, most of the scenes they do you can tell that they're barely enjoying it with the condom in all it makes it look even less pleasurable especially when half of these people act as if they're afraid to penetrate fully. I've been dying to see more transsexuals with women for the longest of time. But out of all 120 Tranny films I've collected over the years (most of them I sold). Its rare to see girls in these movies. Sometimes I wonder if Sara Jay or any of the other top female pornstars would consider doing films with some of the Transsexual pornstars who actually get into it. Its a genre I've been losing interest in quite quickly now that I've gotten into Latex porn. I'm going to assume that straight men that have never done gay porn or porn with Trannies tend to f**ck women allot better than men who F*** trannies or trannies who actually do get off with girls. Trannies tend to be way to fond of doggy styling it and cocksucking. Likewise better directors would help allot more if they would just include some damn women in those films and get the shemales to be allot more aggressive when they are getting their cock sucked, you know? Force em to deep throat and choke, slam them in the missionary position until they cum if you have to! I'm pretty sure there are allot of chicks who would love to be in Transsexual films considering all the kinky films I've seen over the years with chicks doing some of the most dirtiest of things. With pissing and latex porn being my all time favorites. Transsexual ranks in last due to their lack of performance and the fact that they've got way to many men appearing in every film with Transsexuals in them even if there is a girl involved. I'm not fond of Tranny gangbangs where there are 10 or more Trannies and one girl. Almost every one of the trannies get a turn and none of them seem to be capable of f*cking a girl better than a straight guy who's did scenes with either Lela Star, Sara Jay, Tori Lane, Karma Rosenberg, or even Sienna West. I'd love to see one of those chicks in a scene with a Shemale that would actually get into it (No condom) straight Hardcore style. With a creampie at the end. Ah a man can dream for that.
I, too, would love to see more T-girls with women . . . but the response I tend to overwhelmingly hear is that it isn't as marketable as seeing them with men (probably because a good deal of guys like to put themselves into the role of the guy, something they can't do with a girl-T-girl scene).
I've been told this many times as well, but I don't really buy it. First of all, Joey Silvera and several other directors seems to have made some very successful movies with TS and female scenes, second whenever I discuss it on TS specific message boards I get an overwhelming response from guys who like to see it. Strangely enough it seems to be easier for many straight identified men to watch a TS with a woman than it is to watch a TS with a guy. Thus the paradox of me being the queerest TS performer in the industry, yet having a devoted following from guys who think most tranny porn is too gay. Oh the irony... Anyways, I think it is a growing niche, and hopefully someday I'll be able to launch a website or video line that is specific to TS and female performers having wild kinky sex.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here so don't go there but..... Given the overwhelming popularity of Trannie flicks with guys (I'm not a fan, but I see it here and on various other websites), I'd have to say that Trannie fans overwhelmingly prefer to see only oral/anal sex between two men, albeit with one of them modified to include tits. So if it ain't broke.....the porn industry isn't going to fix it. This is no different than all the other porn out there. The industry is risk-adverse when it comes to tampering with their cash flow and although I don't like this, I can understand why.
If you are not trying to pick a fight then why do you use inflammatory language? Referring to TS as men is either an act of disrespect or ignorance, and if you want to rile people up that is the best way to do it. Aside from that line you could have just left out, I agree with your premise somewhat. I think there are actually many TS fans who do like to see TS with women, but those scenes cost more to produce as good female talent is much more costly than hiring Christian or Lobo. So producers aren't going to fork over that extra money unless they are relatively sure it will increase their bottom line, which it doesn't.
I'll avoid taking the obvious bait here to stay on topic. I've read that many female performers already have well-known male performers on their "no" list purely from the perspective that they are uncomfortable performing with someone who is a known performer in TS or gay scenes (please note my use of the word "or" there before boiling over). Christian has been named more than a few times although this is hearsay from other porn/adult boards/blogs. If true, however, then I think this also impacts the willingness of a woman to wish to perform with a TS performer as well. If A=B and B=C....well, you get the idea. But I'd still put money on this being purely an economics issue.
No bait, fighting with people on the internet makes me ill, so I'm perfectly happy to leave that part of the discussion alone. :) I have heard Christian say that he is on girls no lists because of tranny porn, but I think there is somewhat of a double standard insofar as female performers are concerned. I can't really imagine Belladonna being put on anyones no list for working with TS and that goes for many of the female performers who have at one point or another worked with TS. Money makes the world go round, and as long as directors think they will make more money with TS/guy porn then that is what they will predominantly shoot.
I never thought I would be posting in one of these. No matter how many surgeries you go through, how much makeup you wear, or How many pills you take, a man is still a man. If he weren't they wouldn't have a term for them(ie. transsexual, transgender). I don't think Lube was being disrespectful at all by calling a transexual a man if they were in fact a man before the work was done. Its fact. I personally don't have any animosity towards TS but I really don't see the appeal. I'll just leave it at that. I do have a serious though. What realm of porn does this fall in to? Straight, Gay, Other? IMO I would say other just to prevent from offending some. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
I think your opinion is lacking in much knowledge on the subject. The government disagrees (I.E they legally recognize MTF as women and FTM as men, the psychiatric community disagrees with you, and people who have any experience with TS outside of a porn context would disagree with you. Furthermore transgenderism is not even related to homo-sapiens, but is found in many different species of animals, so the scientific community would probably disagree with that assertion as well. Culturally and historically TS have been revered at times and despised at others, but we certainly are much more complex than just "surgeries, makeup and pills". And actually calling a transsexual woman a man is just about the most offensive thing you can say, really it is an insult. It's not just stating "the facts". I can't really answer what the appeal is of TS porn, since for me its not a fetish or a fantasy. It's my job, and its a fun way for me to have sex with hot and talented people. So why people like watching it I don't know, maybe just because they think it is hot.
^ You are so polite, Mandy. I'm not quite sure how you manage, particularly since I'm sure this isn't the first time- or even the hundreth- that someone has said this crud.
All I can say is that Joey Silvera,made TS porn very marketable when he approached John Stagliano for Evil Angel to do a TS line.Because when he was down in Brazil out on casting calls the ones that were the most appealing to him were Transsexuals and he ran the idea by John and he was quick to agree,this was in a recent issue of AVN.I for one think that Joey,Nacho and Rocco,have put out some outstanding material were the TS market is concerned.Before Joey and Evil Angel came along AVN would always catogrise TS porn in the gay section of the magazine and truth be told that that's not were the interest lies.Gays are not the ones buying TS porn.
If I didn't want to deal with people expressing opinions like this I would just keep my pants on and do something that didn't require being a tranny publicly. It bothered me when I was first exposed to people like that, but the older I get the less I care what someone says on the internet. Porn should be fun, no sense in getting my feelings hurt.
I would say it falls under the "other" or the "special interest" category. But if the categories are limited to "gay" and "straight," then I would have to say straight. Not because the sex is necessarily heterosexual, but because the genre is plainly marketed toward straight men. I haven't seen much of it, but the boxcovers always portray the performers as feminine: full make-up, breasts exposed, back arched, ect. Sort of like lesbian films included in the general "straight" category, when the sex is actually homosexual. It's the viewership that sets the categories. I doubt TS porn appeals to many gay men. Of course, it's not the same thing as intercourse between a man and woman, but there is other stuff in the straight category that, to me, doesn't resemble anything in the heterosexual arena; bukkake for instance, or gang bangs with twenty dudes and one chic. Edited by - goldenbear on 6/30/2009 10:10:50 PM Edited by - goldenbear on 6/30/2009 10:12:38 PM
to help out the OP I would recommend the series "Females on Shemales" from Magnus Studios. Great looking TS girls and all of their scenes are with females.
I would have to say that the thing that makes TSs' so attractive to both sexes is the fact that it provides an opportunity to explore an avenue that may be otherwise uncomfortable to go down. And for the arguments that TS women are just men with makeup, surgery, etc. you have to realize that it's what's between the ears that really matters. Trying to say anything otherwise just proves your ignorance and misunderstanding.
I've been told by people who manage adult video stores, that Tranny videos are extremely popular with straight men. They have to assume they are not gay, because the other movies they rent are all male/female dvd's. There is a strange fascination there I suppose. I think the OP has a point when he writes that girls in to kink would be open to tranny scenes. Some guys get in to bbws, bsdm etc. We see double penetration scenes all the time. I would think it's a bit strange, to fuck a woman and feel another guys dick in in her ass. Seems to me, more guys have probably been closer to fucking a tranny than doing a dp. Frankly I think guys get bored and want some variety. Tranny porn certainly offers that.
Unless she seems really into topping, I don't, either . . . but a T-girl and a chick with a strap-on, plus fingers and tongue everywhere, well, that's awesome in my book!
I want to keep it very simple, I only like to see a tgirl with 1 or 2 men but the tgirl has to be 100% bottom meaning no gay action. For me it's better that way. Not a lot sites shoot the content I like because you almost always see the guy sucking cock or taking it up the ass.
Fair enough, are you into strap on videos with girls doing other girls? I actually really love playing with women, whether I'm fucking or getting fucked. I really like finger fucking and fisting though, as well as BDSM. For years I dated women but just never used my cock, it was always some form of play and then fucking with hands and toys. But getting involved in the sex industry actually made me feel a little better about having a cock (because hanging out with BDSM Dykes certainly kept me feeling like having a cock was a problem) and enjoying it. My cock was no longer a liability, but an asset, which was actually kind of empowering.
I hate that also. For me girls should be girls, let the guys do the fucking. I think it's better that way. When I see a tgirl fucking a girl I don't want to see the male part the tgirl is playing. I mean it doesn't help if you want to see tgirls as a real girl.
Some performers are into portraying stereotypical gender roles and some aren't, and the TS industry is no different. I don't feel like my identity as a woman is affected if I'm fucking someone rather than getting fucked. Many girls do, I don't. I understand that for you and many guys TS are only appealing if they portray very stereotypical gender roles and many of the TS I know have a mentality that seems straight from the 1950's. But the world of TS is much broader than the current crop of porn stars portrays, and I happen to be inspired by female sexuality that is powerful and aggressive. It doesn't make me any less of a real girl than the other TS, it just means I'm not a straight girl embodying traditional gender stereotypes. I know it doesn't appeal to everyone, but lucky for me it appeals to enough people that I'm able to continue working and having an appreciative fan base.
I'm glad you understand mandy, because like Ramsey, I too prefer to see the Tgirl on the recieving end. If she happens to pound anyone, I prefer it the ass end of a female, but which again, isn't what I'm necessarily interested to see in a Tflick. There is one question I've had. Why are the majority of TGirls, such blatant cum dodgers? Edited by - Endless Loop on 7/13/2009 8:25:48 AM
This thread alone should be enough to demonstrate that sexual orientation is not nearly as simple as some people make it out to be. People who like tranny porn are accused of being gay closet cases so often it's redundant to read half of the posts in any tranny thread once you've read a few tranny threads. OK. So, for those of you who believe that, how do you explain Mandy? She's obviously got nothing to hide and yet she prefers women. The obvious answer is that her sexuality is more complicated than "gay" or "straight". What is she? I honestly don't know (And I mean no offense, Mandy). But if she tells me how she prefers to be regarded, then I'll trust her judgment. She would know better than I would. And as a matter of common courtesy, I would prefer to extend to her the dignity of self determination. There's no reason I need to put my own label on her. People are going to have to stop thinking so two-dimensionally. The real world is three-dimensional. People are not line drawings. If you believe there are only two possibilities for anything, there are probably a million and you cut them down to two in order to avoid giving the matter any real thought. I understand (Honestly). Many things are confusing. But don't insult people just because you can't be bothered to think. Edited by - randomprecision on 7/13/2009 10:27:41 AM Edited by - randomprecision on 7/13/2009 10:28:50 AM
I've never been able to answer for the majority of any group, you will have to ask someone else. I'm not even sure I know what you mean by cum dodger, is that a sport?
Depending on who I am talking to I'm either bi-sexual or just plain old queer. Bi-sexual tends to upset people who don't see themselves firmly in the man or woman camp, so queer works too. I'm attracted to charm, intelligence, sexual voracity, licentiousness, cruelty, kindness, a dark sense of humor, a wild sense of adventure, artistic brilliance, wounded souls, a beautiful voice....none of these things really are defined by genitalia. I'm not even that turned on by looks or body type. So defining my sexuality based on what gender of person I'm attracted to, and what type of sex we have seems a bit archaic. I'm definitely not straight though, and I think the desperate urge to uphold some form of heterosexuality stifles tranny porn. I would think that part of the appeal of TS porn is the break from gender normative behavior, but maybe people want that break in very familiar ways. Anyways, I'm only trying to say that I like working with people. Dirty people. Really dirty people. http://www.mandy-mitchell.com/blog
I wouldn't call it a sport, as much as an art. I would relate Cumdodging with the art of deception. The intent by a recipient to deny any facial, or oral contact with a cumshot, or "gift", despite being deemed the targeted benefactor, while subsequently implying a wanton desire, invariably short changed by poor aim, or timing. I'm not sure if the general downplay of cumshots in these movies, are the result of directors, afraid to shock a skittish, albeit burgeoning audience of homophobes, or Tgirls assimilating their less than desirable, female engendered antipathy.
The art of cumdodging was never taught to me by my TS ancestors. I thought it was common knowledge that cum helped a girls complexion stay clear and kept a girl looking young forever, but maybe I was misinformed.
I almost shot a scene with her last time I was in LA, after hanging out with her all week. You should check out her new movie "Hazel Does Hollywood" as there is a little bit of something in it for everyone. She's a real sweetheart too.
That would be a hot scene for sure. I haven't seen any of your scenes yet but from your pictures, I think you'd make me crazy. I've seen one of Hazel's scenes and she's really amazing.
Yeah, Hazel and I will definitely do something in the near future. I had been staying at her house the entire time I was in town on my last visit, and it only seemed natural that we would shoot together. But... circumstances got in the way. She's a little hottie, smart too. I think she's kind of vanilla, but vanilla sex can be hot. :)
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Posted - Jul 18 2009 : 5:16PM
^No problem babe. I figured if you're willing to put up with people's bullshit the least i can do is help out where i can. Edited by - below_me on 7/18/2009 5:16:32 PM
To Ramsey and Endless Loop, I want some recommendations from you guys of titles that have the type of T-girl porn that you like. Porn where the T-girl is a bottom only.
Posted - Jun 29 2009 : 6:46AM
though. What realm of porn does this fall in to? Straight, Gay, Other? IMO I would say other just to prevent from offending some.
