Notes from 2007 AEE

Author	Post
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 3:43PM My notes, in no particular order: 1. The Blonde to Brunette Craze Continues. Stefani Morgan, as a brunette, looks incredibly hot and like mainstream star, Jessica Biel. BTW, Nicole Sheridan who I though had retired, was at AEE as a brunette, too. 2. Monique Alexander is the most normal pornstar on earth. To bad she didn't win any awards. She would be a great spokeswoman for the industry. She also had the most attractive, normal looking date/boyfriend? of all the female talent. (see below) 3. Stars Most Missed, who I wanted to talk with: Teagan Presley & Janine. 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey 5. Awards I Most Agreed With: Naomi, Best New Starlet, Stormy, Best Contract Star, and "Island Fever 4" girl/girl scene. 6. Award I Totally Didn't Understand: Vivid getting a Gonzo Award. 7. Sign that the Industry is Still in Need of Major New Star to cross market and bring in new customers: Jenna Jameson (again) getting the Cross Over award. Meaning that after all these years she is still the Most Recognized Porn Star in the biz. 8. Corporate Strategy for 2006 that Backfired: Vivid going "harder" with more anals, condoms optional, rougher sex, and (upcoming) more IR. They won fewer awards as a result of these changes than in past years, when they focused on their core market. 9. Lacie Heart, signing for new company, Digital Playground, looks great IN CLOTHES. Maybe better than nude...um, this could be a problem. 10. Male Talent & Boyfriends of PornBabes: with the exception of Jean Valjean, these are the meanest looking collection of guys this side of a Hells Angels knife fight. I guess this is why Jenna Jameson dissed the male talent recently in the mainstream press. Then, again, she was with Tito Ortiz. 11. CES Note: This event was totally over-shadowed by MacWorld in San Francisco, and the announcement of the iPhone. Like other people I know, I went to MacWorld first then made the jump to Vegas. [Link]
picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 4:03PM Derek117 wrote: 6. Award I Totally Didn't Understand: Vivid getting a Gonzo Award. 8. Corporate Strategy for 2006 that Backfired: Vivid going "harder" with more anals, condoms optional, rougher sex, and (upcoming) more IR. They won fewer awards as a result of these changes than in past years, when they focused on their core market. Click to expand As a person who watches what is termed gonzo almost exclusively, and who doesn't care a whit about Vivid, I don't have any problem with Chemistry grabbing that award. It was gonzo by its strictest interpretations, and it was good. Maybe Vivid didn't grab a bunch of awards, which in past years they didn't really always deserve IMO, but that doesn't mean they aren't making money with their new strategy. Do you have any insider info that would shed some light on this? The bottom line is the bottom line. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 4:13PM picman wrote: Maybe Vivid didn't grab a bunch of awards, which in past years they didn't really always deserve IMO, but that doesn't mean they aren't making money with their new strategy. Do you have any insider info that would shed some light on this? The bottom line is the bottom line. Click to expand Awards are as much about "bragging rights" as revenue. So, not winning effects the company image (and who signs/stays with them. Two words: Lacie Heart). It must be clear from my post that I'm not a big fan of gonzo, and would like to see the old, couples Vivid back. When/if I want to see gonzo I will buy RLD, Zero Tolerance, or the Evil Empire. Gonzo is what they do best! I always advocate for a wide variety of types of porn...something for everyone. [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 5:20PM Interesting notes, just to add my own few cents, I don't think IR in and of itself is "harder"; it is different than what vivid has done previously, but I haven't seen any evidence that it's inherently "couples unfriendly" (if that wasn't what you were thinking I still want to say this point just in general). Now do I think that IR is currently promoted, by many companies, in a way that's not "couple friendly"? Sometimes; titles like "black bros banging white hoes" probabaly won't attract that market, but I still think it can be done in a more sensitive and sexual way, nina hartley's scenes with sean michaels come to mind (i admit one way to help that is to probabaly change the name for the "blackmailed" titles. [Link]
Celtic Member 220 Posts 2/04	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 5:31PM Derek117 wrote: 9. Lacie Heart, signing for new company, Digital Playground, looks great IN CLOTHES. Maybe better than nude...um, this could be a problem. Click to expand why shouldn't Lacie look good nude? I don't see a problem here but maybe you'll explain further? [Link]

Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 7:42PM Celtic wrote: Derek117 wrote: 9. Lacie Heart, signing for new company, Digital Playground, looks great IN CLOTHES. Maybe better than nude...um, this could be a problem. Click to expand why shouldn't Lacie look good nude? I don't see a problem here but maybe you'll explain further? Click to expand Read what I said again. What I'm saying is she may look BETTER in clothes than nude. Since she's a pornstar, and pornstars have to look great nude, that's not a good thing. Just my opinion. Most guys will still say Lacie looks better nude that dressed. Edited by - Derek117 on 1/14/2007 9:32:59 PM [Link]
khyber Member 197 Posts 5/06	Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 7:53PM Must agree with you on point 6, Derek117. Vivid and Gonzo, isn't that what they call an oxymoron? When I think Gonzo, Vivid is the last company that comes to mind. [Link]
TheLoneGunman Member 400 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 10:19AM At the very least, AVN avoided the annual "these awards are bought" accusations it goes through every year. Vivid is one of the biggest advertisers in AVN, and they clearly didn't win a lot of trophies this year. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 9:52PM TheLoneGunman wrote: At the very least, AVN avoided the annual "these awards are bought" accusations it goes through every year. Vivid is one of the biggest advertisers in AVN, and they clearly didn't win a lot of trophies this year. Click to expand Good point. Especially after the allegations of sex-for-AVN Awards nominations that was starting to circulate on the gossip websites. Of course, this could also be seen as proving the allegations. Edited by - Derek117 on 1/15/2007 9:54:38 PM [Link]
Crucifixio_Jones Senior Member Arrogant & Obnoxious Narcissist 4727 Posts 10/03	Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 10:23PM Derek117 wrote: 1. The Blonde to Brunette Craze Continues. Stefani Morgan, as a brunette, looks incredibly hot and like mainstream star, Jessica Biel. BTW, Nicole Sheridan who I though had retired, was at AEE as a brunette, too. Click to expand Did you happen to see Lorena Sanchez? HOT AS SHIT but hardly recognizable as a brunette. I didn't know who she was until I was literally right next to her reading her name tag. I like it, though. It's a good look. Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 1/15/2007 11:15:52 PM [Link]
Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jan 15 2007 : 11:58PM Derek117 wrote: 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey Click to expand Probably a good thing. [Link]
dave27 Member 54 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jan 16 2007 : 12:07AM anyone know if monique alexander has shot her blackmaled movie yet. [Link]
Eon McKai vivid-alt 42 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 16 2007 : 12:29PM Do you have any insider info that would shed some light on this? The bottom line is the bottom line. Click to expand new ideas / trail blazing [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jan 16 2007 : 12:50PM Re: Vivid, we have podcasts pending with Steve Hirsch and Eon McKai, as well as more chat with Dana DeArmond. As for Vivid and Gonzo, go check out Bryan Xin's "Colors," just out. [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Jan 16 2007 : 9:05PM btw derek, did you see briana banks there this year? I remember you mentioning before that she may be transitioning out of the business, and if she didn't show up to represent vivid , that would just seem to further confirm that. [Link]

tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 12:13AM 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey Click to expand Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. [Link]
Redish Poetic Moderator Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine 4076 Posts 12/03	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 12:24AM tricia_devereaux wrote: Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. Click to expand [Link]
christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 1:54AM tricia_devereaux wrote: 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey Click to expand Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. Click to expand damn.....how the hell did i miss that? awesome! [Link]
Guy-On-Couch Member NA 4 LIFE!!! 31 Posts 6/06	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 2:04AM tricia_devereaux wrote: 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey Click to expand Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. Click to expand I saw her at the Venetian and she needed help moving around ;) WASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Link]
katsirk Member Crush on Greg....mmm 812 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 3:02AM Derek117 wrote: It must be clear from my post that I'm not a big fan of gonzo, and would like to see the old, couples Vivid back. When/if I want to see gonzo I will buy RLD, Zero Tolerance, or the Evil Empire. Gonzo is what they do best! I always advocate for a wide variety of types of porn...something for everyone. Click to expand #6, my thoughts exactly. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 12:23PM 4theheart wrote: btw derek, did you see briana banks there this year? I remember you mentioning before that she may be transitioning out of the business, and if she didn't show up to represent vivid , that would just seem to further confirm that. Click to expand Nope. I didn't see Briana. Unless she's now a brunette and I didn't recognize her. If she's out of the biz, I wish her much luck & success in her personal life. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 12:27PM tricia_devereaux wrote: 4. Star I Made Sure I Missed/Avoided: Mary Carey Click to expand Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. Click to expand Tricia, you continue to confirm my belief that you are one of the smartest women in the industry. [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 3:07PM Thanks Derek. [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Jan 17 2007 : 4:13PM tricia_devereaux wrote: Unfortunately, I wasn't able to avoid her. But I did have the pleasure of kicking her sorry ass out of my booth as she was attempting to tell me that she's a bigger star than Belladonna. Bigger freak show, I'll give her. Click to expand Now I'm disappointed. As much time that I spent at or near the Evil Angel booth and I missed that . It's too bad that nobody was shooting video at that time. You could put that footage into the BTS of the biggest piece of crap ever made and still have a best seller. [Link]