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Jenna Jameson
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 3:27PM
Well, my Pony campaign has been the subject of some contreversy as of late. Bill keeps saying that Pony is pushing children to search the internet for pornstars like me.
What do you guys think?
He is also hosting a poll about what the public thinks...
If ya wanna check it out here is the link.
http://www.billoreilly.com/indexp


JJ

Den
Member

911 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 3:33PM
Go Jenna Go!

On Tuesday night he kept saying that you (Jenna Jameson)
was going to be on the show.............................

They re-ran your previous appearance of a few months
ago!

Den

Jenna Jameson
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scottsdale AZ USA
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 3:38PM
His office has been flooding me with calls to get me on the show. It seems as if he is being a hypocrit. He is using me for ratings... then he accuses Pony of using me (sex) to sells shoes...

What's the difference?

I will be doing Entertainment Tonight next week and The Pulse to rebutt his remarks.

I won't give him the pleasure, of having me in the hot seat again! LOL


JJ

Jenna Jameson
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scottsdale AZ USA
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 3:43PM
Here is the link to the story
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79542,00.html

JJ

DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 3:50PM
I wouldn't either. O'Reilly is only after two things, sensationalism and ratings.

DenverDon

 
PornoBoy
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 4:19PM
I think Bill has the hots for you Jenna...
Jenna Jameson
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scottsdale AZ USA
175 Posts
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 4:21PM
I think he must be seriously repressed... sexually.
Poor guy...


JJ

ReggieSpot
Member

47 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 4:28PM
I heard or read somewhere that after your interview with O'Reilly, he requested to have some of your videos. Is this true? I thought that was pretty funny.


Pornmaster Mike
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32DDD
1462 Posts
8/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 4:35PM
i dont think i've ever seen his show because I'm not sure if we get him in Canada..

but what i do know is he's a giant shit disturber who likes to attack people to boost his ratings and cause unnecessary controversy...

haha - im sure he needed jenna's videos for "research purposes"........right!

fuck him... (not literally of course)

IMHO, being a pornstar isn't a bad thing at all, and isn't half as bad as his morale-less career...

- Pornmaster Mike

Edited by - pornmaster mike on 2/26/2003 4:36:39 PM

Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
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9/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 4:52PM
what was your first clue? His haircut maybe? Come on the guy hosted A Current Affair for Pete's sake! And we all know what a bastion of level headed reporting that was. In a sea of yellow journalists, O'Reilly rides the biggest wave. Don't give him the time of day.

Max Booty
As evil plans go, it doesn't suck.

bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 5:21PM
I just wish they would concentrate on finding jobs for the people who don't have one, feeding the hungry and just leave this advertisement alone. I mean the kids who will see this add for the most part will fully understand what it's selling also understanding the sexual subtext with having Jenna in the ad. You know what, big deal!!! So there's a pretty girl in the ad, please keep your discussions to more pressing issues talk show guys. That's why I like shows like Hardball and Crossfire so much. At least they talk about the days issues and only occasionally discuss such topis as the Pony ad. Give the kids of today a little more credit than you are establishment!!!


BTW Jenna, Can I get you in the hot seat!! Can't wait for you new flick with Bella, I know it will be hot hot hot hot!!!!!

Also I thought it wasn't supposed to rain here in Phoenix. what's with the crappy weather,lol. At least it's not a whole truck load of snow like they're getting up north!!

Edited by - bono-ONE on 2/26/2003 5:23:39 PM

Pornmaster Mike
Senior Member

32DDD
1462 Posts
8/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 5:31PM
hey don't diss the snow Bono - there's plenty of fun things we get to do during the winter months...

snow angels.......shovelling snow..........brushing the snow off our cars every time we want to go out....

...........
....damn........

- Pornmaster Mike

clarence j. dammit
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Upstate NY
59 Posts
12/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 5:35PM
Bill O'Racist is a reactionary, obnoxious blowhard. But what exactly is the reason for controversy? I mean, are there big blinking neon signs in the commercials that say "PORN STAR"? Commercial marketing has always been about selling an image - whether it's a lifestyle, an attitude, or a pretty girl. If O'Racist wants to decry the nihilism of modern consumerism, fine; but that just happens to be what puts money in his pocket.
T Mac
Member

166 Posts
1/03
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 6:15PM
I had a couple of thoughts on this subject:

First off, what's up clarence. Good to see another person from upstate NY in the house. I'm kind of busy right now, because if you're watching the news you'll see that story about the 4 arab men in Syracuse,NY who allegedly have terrorist links and got arrested today. Yeah, that shit is right across the street from me!

Anyways, back to business. I hear people call O'Reilly a racist, and I just don't agree with that. If you're referring to his views on Ludacris and Pepsi, and his convo last week with the CEO of Def Jam, I just don't think that implies racism in any way, and I don't think it's cool to say that about anyone.

I watched Jenna's previous interview with O'Reilly last night, and I thought it was a really good interview. Jenna, you did a great job not taking any shit and standing your ground. Any you could totally tell that O'Reilly at least respected where you were coming from, even though he doesn't agree with it. He totally rips some of his guests apart, and he didn't do that with you. Also, when he showed clips from "Briana Loves Jenna", I just had to pop in my DVD copy when it was over!

You both had really good points. I think if Pony wants to use for advertisements, nothing is bad with that. If I were marketing a fashion product, I would use you too. BUT, you have to remember something. All a 10 year old kid has to do is type in www.adultdvdtalk.com, and they don't even need a credit card to be talking in this thread right now, and to be reading a review of Briana Loves Jenna. I kind of think that's where O'Reilly is coming from.

I'm mixed on this. I mean, what can I say, when I was 13 or 14, hell yeah I was checking Jenna out on the internet. But, call me old fashioned, but I do believe in protect our youth and making sure kids don't see too much at too young of an age. But, just like Jenna said, it's the parents responsiblity. O'Reilly said it's Jenna's responsibility. I think in the end it's all of our responsibilities.

Finally, nice to hear Jenna is thinking of having a family at some point.
Later.

LuanaLani
New Member

Kansas University
2 Posts
12/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 6:20PM
I'm all for freedom. Pony has the right to hire pornstars to sell their products, and people like Bill O'Reilly have the right to bitch and moan about it. And people who agree with O'Reilly can boycott Pony. But nobody buys Pony shoes anyways. So they have nothing to lose. Pony is probably ecstatic that Bill O'Reilly has targeted them for a boycott. Until I heard about this story, I wasn't even aware that Pony is still in business.

Clarence, why do you think O'Reilly is racist?

Edited by - luanalani on 2/26/2003 6:21:42 PM

 
clarence j. dammit
Member

Upstate NY
59 Posts
12/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 8:41PM
Yeah T Mac...didn't they bust some other guys in Buffalo not too long ago?

As for O'Reilly, here's what he said in a rant against immigrants:

Den
Member

911 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 9:21PM
O'Reilly read Jenna's email on the air tonight.

He said he wanted the Jenna tapes for research purposes.

Good job Jenna!

Den

Jenna Jameson
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scottsdale AZ USA
175 Posts
8/00
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 9:30PM
Hahahahahahaha

I knew he would be trying to do damge control, as soon as he got that press release...
HMMMM
Let's see what kinda dust this kicks up!

JJ

bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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SAMCRO
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 9:38PM
Hey Jenna that show comes on in one hour here. It would be great if you read this and could pop in the chat room tonight. The show there gets going really good at 8 our time. Hope to see you there soon!!! Welcum back home BTW!!!!
noahped
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8/02
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 9:42PM
O'Reilly is probably a member of ClubJenna! Remember, when Bill says "research" he means "masturbate"

noahped

T Mac
Member

166 Posts
1/03
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 10:55PM
Hey, how could you blame O'Reilly for wanting to do a little "research" on some of Jenna's work?
T Mac
Member

166 Posts
1/03
Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 10:56PM
I can just see Bill O'Reilly sitting in front of his TV with a pen and paper, all serious trying to do research right about the time Jenna starts fucking Briana Banks with her black dildo. That would be a funny sight!
Jenna Jameson
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scottsdale AZ USA
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 11:15PM
I am about to watch O'Reilly... It's mid way through his show... I will report back! LOL

JJ

morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 26 2003 : 11:46PM
O'Reilly's probably a closet Anabolic fan whose only bone is that Vivid girls are so much more popular...

or something.

Jenna Jameson
Member

scottsdale AZ USA
175 Posts
8/00
Posted - Feb 27 2003 : 12:00AM
Wow!
Bill was actually pretty tongue and cheek about the whole situation.
I thought what he had to say was pretty funny.
The part about him requesting my videos for purely research was hilarious... I was very proud of him for saying that sarcastically!

Funny last night he called me a quasi-hooker, tonight he called me his "pal"

OHHHH, the media in all it's glory!


JJ

 
Asmodeus
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Posted - Feb 27 2003 : 12:19AM
Jenna, you go girl!!!
Darth-Morpheous
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Posted - Feb 27 2003 : 3:55PM
T-Mac, I agree with you 100%. I am a fan of O'reilly. I agree with him 95% of the time. Obviously I am a fan of porn and he probably has different views on that subject but I don't think any of his views on the matter make him a sell out. Like you said, they both had good points. I just think that a company has a right to advertise their product any way they want. If a retailer wants to not carry that product, that is there decision. O'Reilly's point was that he thinks retailers should not carry the product because the commercial targets minors. Looking at the commercial, it is a valid point. I just think that kids are going to be exposed to things a hell of a lot worse the way things are in the world today. It is up to the parents to guide them. Not all of them do and that is the problem. As far as O'Reilly being a racist, that is just plain silly.

Darth-Morpheous
adultdetective.com

FastForward
Member

60 Posts
1/03
Posted - Feb 27 2003 : 8:58PM
Jenna,
Thanks to Bill O'Reilly, I'm determined to make my next pair of shoes a pair of Ponys. I've decided to watch Mr. Stirling, too. Jenna, I haven't even seen any of your work, so it's not about that. It's about treating you as what you are--an asset because you've done adult--rather than labeling you what you aren't--a pariah just because you've done adult. You deserve as much respect as anyone else in Hollywood or anyone else earning an honest living. I have zero respect for assholes who insist otherwise. There is nothing wrong with adult. If there were, O'Reilly probably wouldn't be such a fan.

Broken_Halo
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10 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 2 2003 : 11:59AM
He is a ToolShed. Kinda like Bill Maher the other night comparing ephedra/ephedrine (like in Metabolife,ect) to cocaine because it's 'just the same-It's all SPEED'.
That's the kind of mentality you are dealing with.
Broken_Halo
Member

10 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 2 2003 : 12:02PM
Represed? Probably. Ever notice that prostitutes,escorts, and strip clubs get lots more business when religious or right wing groups hold conventions in a particular town?
Darth-Morpheous
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Posted - Mar 2 2003 : 1:48PM
Just because you have a different point of view than O'Riley doesn't mean that he is repressed. Liberal arguments always looks silly because they resort to personal attacks and labels. This is a perfect example.
rjk13
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peace, love and revolution
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10/02
Posted - Mar 2 2003 : 2:13PM
Last time I listened to good old Rush, the personal attacks and labelling were pretty rampant.
SEARGANT SHARP
Member

216 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 3 2003 : 10:42AM
Come on you guys as much as I hate to admit Porn is not
mainstream. So when a shoe company hires a porn star a well
known porn star in a commercial what do expect to happen.

Don't say whammy say woe say whammywoe

FastForward
Member

60 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 2:22AM
Chinese opera is not mainstream. Kabbalah rituals are not mainstream. But if someone's participated in them and sponsors something else, no one cares. Unless they're on their mandatory year-long missionary crusade, and probably not even then.

OTOH, hip hop (and its derivative, rap), are mainstream. But relative to the mainstream, a growing segment of the genre and the culture around it are extreme in what they advocate, which is very often illegal let alone immoral. Yet again, the Moron Majority has no problem buying what they promote.

Jenna's films encourage nothing illegal. I doubt there's a consensus that they're even immoral under present community standards, unless the entire community consists of fundamentalists, homophobes and finger-pointing, fundamentally incompetent parents. Yet only in this case is sponsorship supposedly indecent.

Fuck that. I not only WILL buy Pony shoes, I pay only enough attention to the Grammys to know who won, so I can make sure I WILL NOT EVER buy their albums. No way do I want to support the pious hypocrisy of those who see scapegoats as the solution to their own moral conflicts.


Edited by - FastForward on 3/4/2003 2:23:45 AM

T Mac
Member

166 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 2:36AM
Okay FastForward, try the decaf next time.

I don't think O'Reilly was using Jenna as a "scapegoat", he was simply implying that if 10 year old kids see her as a mainstream star, they may/may not be enticed to check her websites out on the internet and buy her movies. Jenna made very good points on his show, but from that standpoint, I see where he's coming from.

 
Johnny_Blade
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3/03
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 2:36PM
hello to everyone here at the forum first of all. and if that is the real Jenna, we must get together!!
O'Reilly is a total ass. nothing more than a carnival barker with alot of time on his hands. yes we know it is bad to peddle this stuff to children. we all do our best to steer them away from this.

O'Reilly should do a show on how media, radio and tv (especially the Fox news channel) here in the U.S. have come under the rein of the bush regime and right wing propaganda party. a little more dangerous topic for him to tackle. Fox news is fair and balanced? i don't think so.

FastForward
Member

60 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 4 2003 : 8:51PM
Regarding...

"...O'Reilly "was simply implying that if 10 year old kids see her as a mainstream star, they may/may not be enticed to check her websites out on the internet and buy her movies...from that standpoint, I see where he's coming from."

When I was 10, Deep Throat was mainstream. Hell, the phrase came up virtually every day on Walter Cronkite, who wasn't even talking about the movie (even though I didn't know it yet). Of course, I was interested in seeing it. But I'd have had as much luck at the ticket window as a 10-year-old today would have if he brought some Jenna videos to the counter: No chance.

But chances are the kids will see it when Daddy's doing the buying. Hiding it seems easier than dealing with this fact: Wherever he hides his naughty DVDs, his children will find them as surely as he himself uncovered any Playboys his own parents had in the house. Finding porn on the home computer is exactly as difficult as parents want it to be. No one's going to see anything they don't want their kids to see if their Web surfing is monitored by Surfwatch and accessed through providers like Bob Jones University's "family-friendly" ISP from a computer in full view on the kitchen table. People could take these steps but they don't, because it's so much easier to see what they want to see and blame everyone else when their kids see too.

So it's very easy to see the POV of those like O'Reilly: their own childbearing and child-rearing is no one else's business, but childproofing the world must be everyone else's business. I cannot agree.




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