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O2: The Surrender of O


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Mulholand
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"Habits & Rites."
3 Posts
10/08
Posted - Oct 11 2008 : 6:55AM
I turn to this forum as I recall a lively and stimulating discussion on O - The Power of Submission around the time of (actually a bit before) its release, with interesting input from Nina Hartley, Carmen Luvana, Adrianna Nicole and others. It would be equally interesting to hear about the new production.
In my opinion, O - The Power of Submission was a brave attempt for a 2006 movie - especially the field of adult cinema as we know it these days. I am very happy to see that it paid off and spawned a sequel (only the first, one hopes).
I'm looking forward to this one with great anticipation, verging on slight concern. Release date, as announced already in late April was set for September, then moved to November. As for online promotion, there's hardly anything, no cover, no pre-order option, certainly no official website. I get the impression this is a pretty big release... (maybe I missed something; googling "surrender of o" gets you a heap of stuff about the release party of the first O movie. Confusing, a tad.)
Any news on what's happening? Yes, patience is a virtue and all that, but hey - it's mid October.
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 16 2008 : 1:55PM
According to Nina Hartley the movie is currently scheduled to be released on November 10 through Adam & Eve.
Mulholand
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"Habits & Rites."
3 Posts
10/08
Posted - Oct 16 2008 : 7:10PM
Thank you, Flash. I just visited the Adam & Eve website, and they have now put up a nice gallery - plus a trailer. So I'm most pleased. And if the preview is anything to judge from, it was worth the wait... It looks exquisite and very erotic, and probably even better than the first one. Lovely outfits, for one. I highly recommend a visit to A & E and am greatly looking forward to this one.
Nina Hartley
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78 Posts
6/06
Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 10:53PM
Finally made it back! Yes, O2 is, I think, better in many respects than the original, which is saying a lot. For one, the D/s energy is consistent throughout all the scenes. As well, Ms. Olson is herself personally submissive, which gives her scenes a wonderful energy. The newly designed O dresses are better than before, and even more lewd, with the bare boobs and pussy- and ass-cutouts.
First scene: Bree Olson submits to me and Nicole Sheridan: forced masturbation and orgasm, impaled whipping, four-point bondage with fuck machine, upside down suspension with penetration, oral worship and tag-teaming with strap ons. Ms. Olson has an orgasm in each situation, at least. The way she rides the dick-on-a-stick while her hands are restrained, her fabulous boobs bouncing, wanting to be whipped harder, is just fantastic.
Second scene: Kayden Kross and Erik Everhard. It starts with him shaving the lovely Ms. Kross while she is held in a loose four-point restraint before moving to some very savvy foot-job action and then goes on to a smokin' hot fuck fest that never lets up on the D/s energy. Her heat for him jumps off the screen and into your lap. I lost count of how many times she came.
Third scene: Evan Stone gives it good to Ava rose and the luscious Mika Tan. G/g action, toys, some whipping and oral service, ending up with Ms. Tan's usual amazing anal action.
Fourth scene: A long and hot four way with slaves Trinity Post and Ava Rose being punished by, and then servicing, two male attendants. In this scene, chastity belts holding in dildos and, in Trinity's case, a butt plug, too, are showcased. Lots of oral service and fucking, ending with one of Trinity's signature killer DPs and multiple orgasms.
Fifth scene: a very emotionally intense Mistress/slave interaction between uber rope-top Claire Adams and her uber-sub Trinity. Sweet and hot at the same time.
Sixth scene: Tommy Gunn mixes it up with Bobbi Star, who does her usual great anal, and Ms. Kross, again looking lovely.
Last scene: the climactic scene, when O comes back to Steven (Evan Stone), and he takes her back. The Dom/sub energy fairly crackles on the screen and any Master would cream his jeans to hear her talk to him the way Bree talks to Evan. She is so in the zone, she just hits it out of the park. She looks the part in a fantastic pink-and-black look, complete with custom corset and hat, pussy-pink fetish pumps and black stockings. Her reverse cowgirl is worth the price of admission, and the anal is so hot Evan couldn't make it to a second position before popping. Bree is very emotional in the scene and it's very powerful.
The movie itself is three and a half hours long, so you'll have to take it in pieces, but each scene is really, really, good.
Check it out!
Mulholand
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"Habits & Rites."
3 Posts
10/08
Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 6:57PM
Hello Nina,
Nice of you to drop in. Got the film a week ago and enjoyed it - in one piece. Being a bit ”old school” about adult cinema, I appreciated the effort on storyline and dialogue, of which there is quite a bit - some of these scenes are also every bit as sensual (a rare expression in adult cinema today) as the actual sex scenes (like Bree bathing Kayden or the weird but nice, if too short, "salon" scene with O playing the piano). In fact, there could have been even more dialogue/storyline scenes here. As Bree says in the BTS interview (or words to this effect); "I usually go in, fuck, and that’s it. This is different."
This film sometimes had me thinking of legendary 60-70s director Joe Sarno and his ambitious, psychological ventures into the world of carnal knowledge. Even the sex scenes hold an unusually high degree of interest as to where the story is going. Plus, they're pretty hot...
As I seem to recall, the film was shot in less than a week. Very good going of y’all, to say the least. Kudos, too, for the behind the scenes footage. Not only is it interesting (and pretty sexy now and then), it also gives a great insight into the hard work that can go into a f**k flick, although this is clearly much more than that.
I hope it goes down well and would really like to see more elegant, BDSM-themed films like this. Seemingly, I’m not alone. So keep up the good work.
 
Derek117
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1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 10:06PM
I'll definitely check out this sexvid. And I'll look at "The Surrender" with the same critical eye that I looked at "The Submission"--to see how faithful you guys are to the original book. As you know, the book pushed a very strong feminist viewpoint about relationships and surrendering-to-love. It was very Germaine Greer. Which is probably too much to ask of a sexvid that's aimed at a male audience.
BTW, putting aside faithfulness to the book, having Bree and Kayden in any sexvid always puts it on my must-buy list.
Nina Hartley
Member

78 Posts
6/06
Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 3:21AM
Derek,
The Surrender of O is best taken as a piece of heartfelt fanfic, more faithful to the spirit of the original than to the plot. Keep in mind that the author of the original books had no intrinsic feel or understanding of D/s and was creating a story to captivate her kinky lover. She understood the personalities of the players, but not their motivation or inner lives. The books reflect that lack of emotional connection to this particular sexual orientation.
Ernest was certainly not channeling Ms. Greer in the first the first episode. He was, however, speaking from many year's experience by showcasing to the inner strengths, and contradictions, of any woman who dares to love on her knees. Most of the submissives I know are pretty fierce, and will just as soon rip off your face as to give you their ass. It's what makes D/s so exciting actually, is playing with such strong personalities.
And you're not wrong about the fine performances of Bree and Kayden. Just great scenes from each of them.
Mulholand,
Thanks for noticing, and appreciating, the non-sex scenes. Ernest likes to put them in and would do more if we had the time. It was a five day shoot, which is quite respectable these days. We'd have rehearsals, too, but there's no budget for them. He thinks everything in a sex movie should be sexy, including the story, and I think he nails it here. Bree worked very hard and it shows. Plus, she looked great in red!
Derek117
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1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 10:22AM
^^Always good to hear from you, Nina. You've been a fav or mine since I saw you dance in SF (the New Century), while I was at Berkeley. Still have the photo we took.
Getting back to cases: I understand you and Mr. Greene are exploring the submissive/dom theme in your "O" series. What I've always pushed for is porn to address more "universal" themes--that strike home to a much wider audience base. It's what separates "O2" from Paul Thomas' recent "Cry Wolf." Both are excellent porn features, but one appeals to a much greater audience.
That said, I totally support you and Mr. Greene for making porn with a plot, and giving the performers the opportunity to act. Bring back the Quality!
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 1:35PM
I'm taking a look at this one too and it's totally beyond what I normally watch or could even begin to understand the motivation of someone who engages in it. I do believe in the whole 'work in progress' that Ernest mentioned in his interview so I'm willing to take a look at this as a person who isn't familiar with the subject matter but as a person who is very much turned on by Bree Olson-- if there's a better submissive girl in the biz, who wants to please so badly I'd like to meet her so casting Bree in this was a great move. Now back to the picture!
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 6:04PM
I'm bushed, lol. Spent the last few hours watching this and also writing down my thoughts for a review which should be up tomorrow I suspect. I'm no expert on the whole bondage genre but as I watched this it became clear that bondage was only a part of the story here and never the dominant aspect I thought it might be, so not sure if hardcore fans will like that or not but you do get some strong nods in the various scenes and the first one with Bree in particular, hanging upside down to eat out Nicole Sheridan or riding a device that looks like a T-Ball stand but instead of a baseball to hit off it you have a cock attached and Bree rides that. The biggest thing which impressed me in this was the emotional range Bree displayed at times, it came off as very real to me and yeah the sex isn't to bad either. Kayden Kross bones Erik Everhard for all she's worth, Mika Tan and Ava Rose share Evan Stone with some good anal work for Mika. Trinity Post shows off how flexible she can be and man can she pull those legs back far. This is an easy purchase for Bree fans, her acting in this along with the sex just might be her best overall and varied performance yet.
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 2:34PM
Nina Hartley
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6/06
Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 3:31PM
Derek,
Thanks for your kind words about O2. I appreciate your desire for porn movies to address more universal themes, but that's not always possible. Not all types of sex appeal to all people, and never will. BDSM and kink sex are very popular but few people who really have this kind of sex at home and for real are in the porn movie business What makes this movie work for you at all, even when you're not into kinky sex, yourself, is that Ernest IS into it, and his passion and understanding translate well to those watching at home. BDSM-flavored videos, when made by clueless people, are boring, silly, ugly or ignorant and, therefore, bad porn. Ernest will leave PT and other directors to explore the themes that excite them, and stick to the themes that excite him. That's the only way to make a hot movie: if your own dick or pussy is up there on the screen.
bono-One,
Thank you so much for your wonderful review! It's especially gratifying to see that, even though BDSM is not really your trip, you got what was hot about it. Bree is good that way, yes? It's so real for her, so exciting, that you can't help but become involved. That's the beauty of getting the right actress for the job: she brings the audience along on the ride with her. Bree worked very hard on this part, and it shows. She had to watch other people have kinky sex for three days before she got to do her scenes, so she was ready to give her all, and she did. Ernest designed the dresses expressly for the purpose of giving the audience something sexy to look at in every frame. Bree never looks less than absolutely delicious, no matter what she's doing. She had her hand inside that pussy window pretty much all the time, which was the point.
For all of the sex with bondage in O2 (more than in the first one), this movie makes clear how bondage is really more emotional than physical, which Bree communicates very effectively.
Good call on suggesting that viewers watch Ernest's interview before watching the movie. It will be a help to those who are not already BDSM-conversant.
Thanks again for your write up!
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 3:56PM
It was my pleasure!!
xboxfan
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 3:06PM
I thought this movie would get more buzz
Nina Hartley
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78 Posts
6/06
Posted - Jan 23 2009 : 11:28PM
Actually, there's more buzz than you think, xboxfan. The sales are very strong, indicating that the movie is finding its audience, and vice versa. What helps, of course, is Bree's crotch-stiffining performance. It also doesn't hut that Bree has said it's her favorite movie because in it she gets to be her true, submissive self (and what a job she does!). Her fans are especially eager to snap up copies. There might have been less AVN buzz this year since it was released too close to the cutoff date for consideration for the '09 awards show
Below you'll find links to other reviews, as well as release party reports.
Fleshbot review: https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=126857/forum_id=15/cat_id=1/reply=1471810#post1471810
Fleshbot party coverage: http://fleshbot.com/5090981/why-la-is-burning-up
XCritic top ten list: http://www.xcritic.com/columns/column.php?columnID=1313
Gram Ponante's review: http://www.gramponante.com/reviews/2008/11/o2-surrender-of-o.html
AVN's party coverage: http://www.avn.com/performer/articles/33392.html
Gamelink review: http://www.gamelink.com/display_review.jhtml?reviewID=21424
Xpeeps review: http://www.xpeeps.com/articles.php?do=view&id=1137
 
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12/08
Posted - Aug 6 2009 : 11:46AM
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Posted - Aug 7 2009 : 6:15PM
I know it was released a while ago but I just purchased it and I'm waiting for my copy to arrive! I enjoyed the first one and so, I decided the purchase the sequel! And from the comments, it seems that I made the right choice!



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