There's been a lot of drama surrounding Lana ever since she stepped foot in the door. A LOT of people here put her on that pedestal and every time an issue came about those capes came out and the white knight brigade was there to tell her she could do no wrong. I've been on this board or a few years now and have never seen a performer's thread raise that much of an emotional response out of people like Lana. We don't know the entire story or everything that happened but at some point you have to stop giving people the benefit of the doubt and look at the common denominator in all of the situations that have happened over the last year or so. But all this over an award
I agree with others who stated that this isn't that big of a deal and that it's pretty common. The bruises/scratches look pretty minor and should heal quickly. I'm not saying it's fine to attack someone, obviously, but this isn't as serious an incident as some are making out. At least the alleged assault itself. The drug aspect is also not surprising, however, and I am also a bit suspicious. As someone who knows the drug world myself, you don't ask people you know are clean to do heroin with you. Not alleging anything, but I find it hard to believe that she was going around asking a bunch of straight-edge girls to do drugs with her. I'm also not a fan of putting everything out on social media whether it be the drug allegations, the assault allegations or what have you. If she is really in a jail cell, then it's rightfully being handled by the law and there's nothing more that needs to be said outside of any further court appearances. Posting about all of this on social media is a bit pointless unless the goal is to just chip away at the person alleged in committing the acts, in which case, it's in poor taste and reveals more about those who are piling on rather than the person being piled on. Lastly, though, we have to remember these are mostly younger women when it's all said and done, so it's hard for me to hold anything against most of them as this not too far out of the ordinary for women their age to behave.
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I could be wrong but I didn't take it that way. I think the "haha!" was for my post and the rest of his post had nothing to do with what I wrote. Separate things.
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Posted - Oct 9 2017 : 8:15PM
Arnold The Geek Member What Rosco, no smart alecky comments? Go To Top of page [Link] Thanks for wanting to include me, but I've decided to sit this one out.
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 9 2017 : 8:16PM
I missread that then. Apologies.
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Posted - Oct 9 2017 : 8:51PM
Everyone, they got in a scrap, Adrianna's wounds will heal, life will move on . yeah, it sucks, yeah its drama, yeah the cops were called. If a crime was committed Lana will get her punishment. If she has a drug issue, perhaps this will motivate the people in her life to stop turning a blind eye and trying to intervene to save her life. Adrianna does not have to defend herself. She got attacked, she has wounds, she has full grounds to be a victim. yet she is attacked by Lana fans. Lana has friends of Adrianna going on about her drug use. This is spinning to far for what is a routine scrap (sorry everyone, this may sound like I am minimizing it, but young people getting buzzed or high and scrapping over jealousy, career, boyfriends/girlfriends, etc is common.. most of us have seen that). Fans are taking sides based on what girl they like to see fuck on camera (to put it bluntly). Nobody is very objective here when "sides" are being taken based on who gives you the most orgasms. So, its a bit over the top here on ADT, does anyone agree or am I crazy?
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Posted - Oct 9 2017 : 9:19PM
^ I agree about the extreme sides of your point, but it is reflective of where society is. People, more so in the electronic age, for bonds, one sided though they may be, to performers in many fields.Those that may be a bit unbalanced will go to great lengths not to have the object of their affections harmed in their eyes. In this case, Adriana has scars, and Lana is in jail, so by all appearances so far, 2+2=4.
^^I've always said, whenever two porn girls get in a fight (not like this, even a little argument), the fans will always take the side of the one they jerk off to the most. Edited by - Captain Jack on 10/9/2017 9:21:59 PM
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 9 2017 : 9:30PM
lol yes, that was one of my points. Nice to see I am not the only one :)
Exhibit #395 of the ADT consensus misreading simple mental instability as "she's a strong-willed person who knows how to stand up for herself." Never gets old. And the handful of people playing the "everybody's just piling on because they're jealous of Lana" card now are truly something else.
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if Lana is attacking stars because she's strung out and trying to kill herself (or using it as a call for attention) then she needs to stay in the psych ward, and get some pro followup help. Fuck all the other drama. ----Dread's Twitter----
so, when Lana is doing drugs before shoots, it's just status quo? I guess drug usage is just an accepted downfall in the entertainment industry. I mean, an NFL coach just got outed by his pregnant escort stripper, doing lines of coke before games, because he tried to threaten her with blackmail and other forms of abuse. Just seems like another day in the park But now that Lana is attacking other performers, ergo ruining the earning potential of the many parties involved, now she's a junkie that needs to be tossed in a ditch and left for dead(figuratively speaking, in regards to LA Direct dropping her)? play in the pig pen, expect to get dirty
^^^^^^^ This isn't exclusive to porn. Any rivalry and/or incident that occurs within the pop culture bubble will have fans take sides. This is no different than Kanye West/Taylor Swift, Star Wars/Star, Trek Red Sox/Yankees, yes/no on pineapple pizza, etc. ^^^^^ It's not a perfect comparison by any stretch, but there's a lot in this situation that reminds me of what happens with pop stars in today's culture. You'll have the initial hit single or album from the star with a great hook to go along with it (in Lana's case, it was being with Spiegler and her initial scenes) and the initial groundswell of support came. This is followed by a period where typically it's seen as cool to be a fan of whatever the star does, and in turn, the star tries to make a personal connection with these fans through a combination of touring, social interaction, and building their brand in a way to allow those already in to feel like they're going to grow with them. Then, the second album comes out (in this case, the comparison can be Lana's initial anal scenes) and those initial fans that were there from the beginning feel like they were responsible for the success of their favorite (and to a small extent they can be in the case of pop idols, though bigger in cases such as this where direct sales are much more important) and can take pride in this to an overt level. There can be those that come around this period that either are more neutral fans that don't feel that connection or just aren't really fans but because the star is popular, are aware of general happenings involving them. When a situation comes up that isn't ideal like a bad album (or in this case an arrest), those that are more neutral can see things with a bit more levity. However, those who have been fans on that deep connective level feel like they have to either protect or justify their fandom and anything negative can be seen as an attack. That's not to say that there aren't cases where there actually is "piling on", but I haven't seen that here. The drug accusations are serious, but it can also take being outed publicly through an incident to see that they need help (see the whole David Hasselhoff bathroom cheeseburger event). Someone can say all they want that they think someone has a problem and they need help, but others or the person in question might not believe them unless there's an incident. In this specific case, there's still so much we probably won't know unless there's a police report and/or third party accounts of the events are made public. However, we do know that whatever happened was enough for LA Direct to drop her within 12 hours of this happening. One doesn't have to look outside of entertainment news the past few years to notice that the only time where representation is dropped this quickly for someone that's a star in their field is when something, for the lack of a blunter term, is completely fucked beyond fucked. Agents are all about making money and if the situation isn't something that isn't just beyond repair, there's no real chance they'd release her from the contract barring the entire roster threatening to quit. Now, if the drug accusations are in fact accurate, there's a lot of questions that should be asked to her agent, though knowing how this industry has had a terrible time in the past self-regulating the non-sexual health of performers I doubt they will be. It's entirely reasonable to think that drug use could have been hidden. It's also entirely reasonable to think that her agent knew and either stepped in and told her to get clean, or did nothing and continued to make money off of her. If it's the former and she said that she'd stay clean, then there's no reason to think there's anything they could do to help. If there was never an effort to help her get clean if there was a known issue, then there needs to be some sort of accountability that needs to be held. Edited by - eva93 on 10/10/2017 12:37:19 AM
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 12:52AM
There were some now deleted tweets in which it was claimed that Lana said that Mason pressured her into shooting a DAP. Not for a second do I believe that Mason did that.
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 12:56AM
Did anyone watch (or read or listen to or whatever the fuck one does with) the Instagram thing?
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 1:05AM
Obviously deleted for being total bullshit. Mason isn't some fly by night director, girls line up to do DAP with her and only a few get the opportunity. She isn't doing any shit like that.
Strikes me as simple pragmatism. I'm against using drugs myself, but when you're active in an environment where it is (for whatever reasons) relatively common, you probably have to adopt the stance that some amount of drug-taking by others is "okay" as long as a user still manages to be a functioning member of society. When somebody fails that standard, it's hardly a surprise that the person's drug usage will be put on blast. What's the alternative, really? Short of some alternative straight-edge porn scene taking off, there's no real place for people to go who want to work in porn but aren't into drugs themselves. And I also don't think it would reflect badly on other drug users who do manage to behave responsibly if they put the irresponsible ones on blast. (Not saying that this has happened here; I don't know anything about the industry people who have made critical tweets, etc..) Anyway, I would guess that the porn industry is not exactly a monolithic entity in its attitude to drugs, and that there's a significant number of people who do draw a line between the seemingly near-ubiquitous marijuana usage (not to mention alcohol), and hard drugs like cocaine and heroin. Edited by - shalalin on 10/10/2017 1:58:12 AM
She is more then meets the "all-seeing eye" 52 Posts 8/16
Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 1:58AM
Wait, what? why in the world would she assault the one she rightfully classified as "the goat" and help create LR: Unleashed to the monumental piece of history that it became?. That superhero threesome was the very best scene on the showcase (followed closely by the dap one) and now this happened. Wow, I guess the neon demon really got the best of her. Sad. Next time save you're aggression for you're art where it belongs and put it all into the scene. If there comes a next time to begin with, cause quite frankly I think she should be blacklisted until Adriana forgives her.. If Adriana forgives her. This might seem a bit harsh but if you assault a goddess, you also should be placed at her mercy even if your a goddess yourself as well. I can imagine Mason also feeling pretty bummed out regarding this whole ordeal. After putting so much faith in her, showing an almost maternal type of affection and creating the best pornstar showcase of her entire career where everyone involved brought their absolute a-game. The magnitude of these incredible accomplishments makes the whole award drama seem even more pitiful in comparison. Because any self respecting pornstar would pick a showcase by one of the best (if not the best) director of the industry over even a million awards. In case this is indeed the end for Lana's career as a pornstar, I would like to take a moment to thank and congratulate Lana for all her genius and life affirming efforts, through them she embedded something truly unique and powerful inside me that will resonate with me until my dying breath and I'm forever grateful for that, no matter what happens. I hope that one day she evolves to be equal to the gifts she possesses.
Believe it or not, I am a doctor working as Anaesthetist and I must say I did notice something really different in Lana's attitude in the most recent scenes if compared to earlier ones. I can recognize for sure the look of someone under the influence of something and I was thinking Lana was addicted starting some months ago. What happened only confirms what I suspected since then, just look at her eyes in several scenes she did recently. I had the same feeling with Jessie Rogers at the time before she left and I was right... probably some stars just lose control of their bodies with drugs and everything. I wouldn't underestimate the fact that Lana shot some really HOT scenes with Adriana recently (the Tushy one, the one for the Unleashed series and the latest 4some for Passion HD), is it possible that something happened during the shooting? Fact is, it is true that we do not know what really happened that night but several accounts are confirming Adriana's version. If I had to bet, I would say Lana's is dealing with cocaine, and that probably what happened has little to do with the award. My impression is that Lana will be completely out of the game for scenes involving other girls (not only g/g but b/g/g as well), and my nightmare would be of her leaving porno for good... that would be a hit since we have lost Peta Jensen (sigh) as well this year. It would be a dream if Lana would be able to apologize and make herself clean again. Edited by - Zondag on 10/10/2017 4:08:08 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 5:12AM
^hate to break it to you doc, but young women scrap and they don't have drug problems; a little booze can do that too. There are plenty of anecdotal signs she has drug issues, but should we all be calling her a drug addict in an open forum with no proof? She got in a scrap, took the first shot, and injured someone. Bad behavior yes, but worthy of being dragged through the mud like she committed a serious criminal offense, and being labelled in a way that may destroy her career ? People are going on like she is the worst human being over what, in the story of life, is a minor incident. If we all lost our careers for little shit like this we would all be in dire straights. People are literally talking about her to a point where she may no get booked enough for this to be a viable career option. That is not right even if she did get into a physical altercation. This isn't sexual assault, domestic violence, man beating woman, rape, etc.... this is two girls who were verbally jousting and one of them crossed the line and took a shot and then it was over. No different than two guys trash talking at a bar over a girl or the last NFL game and one guy takes a swing and it's broken up. Not something to end careers over. Edited by - A_Fan on 10/10/2017 5:17:56 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 5:36AM
When does she leave jail? I can't wait for more anal!
We've seen the tweets that Adriana made after the incident. We've had three pages here of our opinions as to what happened?/why?/what drugs might or might not have been involved. That's two sides of the story. We await a third side to this story. Lana's side. She hasn't tweeted. She hadn't posted on her thread before it's locking nor posted here yet. It will be interesting to see her version.
^^Interesting to see how she'll spin it. Multiple parties confirming Adriana's version lead me to believe it's authentic.
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 6:20AM
a cat fight between 2 young girls, one of them got few scratches and they are making a big deal like someone got murdered. so much jealousy & hate for lana.
Doesn't sound like a cat fight, it sounds like an assault-Adriana didn't retaliate & it was the guy in the car with them that pulled her off. Let's put it this way, you have the best in the business who never seems to have any issues with anybody & the other actress both saying it was an unprovoked attack & that Adriana didn't fight back, against a woman who has pissed off multiple people with her behaviour ever since she got in the business with her erratic conduct.
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 6:44AM
^ unprovoked? this is what they are sayin adriana not fighting back doesn't make it any more serious. not to me at least. i have seen cat fights way uglier than this. calling this an assault or even a cat fight is a joke. in the live stream her scratches are barely visible. did all this even last 5 seconds, i doubt Edited by - joi on 10/10/2017 6:45:54 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 6:58AM
@vrakenbaq, bumblaster et al: Way to verify the argument that porn objectifies women. Lana right now is in the middle of a train wreck bigger Tanner Mayes and you only worry about the wank factor. @Brummie: There may be 2 sides to every story but the fact is that nothing justifies assault and battery regardless of what someone may say. @joi: Lana is actually, as things appear now, guilty of assault and battery. Edited by - FlacFan on 10/10/2017 8:48:22 AM
I don't think you realize the gravity of the situation. It's not the result that it's awful (those are just some minor bruises, let's be honest, nothing that won't heal in short time), but it's the behaviour of Lana that is worrying. And I'm not even curious to hear Lana's side of the story, because if she lied before (regarding her previous sharades), there's no reason to believe her now. The thing with Mason is another example: I saw Mason wrote some nice words in the Lana thread in here after the showcase was done and then Lana goes and talks shit about Mason. Maybe I will continue to watch her scenes, the incident doesn't really affect me in any way, but apart from her looks, there is nothing attractive about her when it comes to her personality and she isn't even that intelligent as some of you made her out to be, you can just listen to her talk in interviews. She also comes across as a mentally weak person, I never said that because I don't want to judge people like that, but like I said, her actions outside the camera prove my point. What bothers me is that some people refuse to open their eyes and get her down from the pedestal they placed her on and they continue to praise her over the top, even after this sh!t she pulled off. Too many exagerated compliments and praising can get to someone's head, especially if they are weak, as Lana surely is. Edited by - Adriano on 10/10/2017 7:09:50 AM
Lana fanboi at Barstoolsports tries to spin this as a deliberate wind up. He's so obviously biased. Edited by - FlacFan on 10/10/2017 7:20:07 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 7:10AM
Anywhere I can watch the live stream now?
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joi Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 7:56AM
@Adriano i dont realize the gravity of the situation because there is literally no gravity in this situation. this is a joke. your believing everything these girls, who are full of jealousy, are saying and calling lana a liar even when there is no evidence to prove either. lana didnt talk shit about mason. it is what aidra rae tweeted and then later deleted. funny you believed her. maybe you do but i dont watch porn for the performer personality and intelligence. she may not be as mentally strong as some of these girls so what is wrong in that? i myself am not mentally strong either. why are you pointing out all the lana flaws? no one is perfect. people who put her on pedestal knows that too, believe me. it is not about putting her on pedestal. it is about these jealous girls ganging up on her and making a big deal of some scratches and trying to blackball her from porn. you should see adriana tweet to bangbros and megan tweet telling companies shouldn't book her, why? because of few scratches on neck. biggest crime of the century? not murder, not rape. neck scratches is the crime everyone is talking about. you guys should open your eyes and see that all this is nothing but a big joke. few scratches ,not even on a porn set, and career should be over?
^Lana's erratic behavior will result in blackballing herself, no one needs to do it for her. You keep downplaying the scuffle as just "scratches" when it's still an assault. She was jailed. What part of that don't you get?
What the f? not even a single thread of Lana open? all locked? what is wrong with you? Anyway.. Frist of all I love Lana and i'm a big fan of Adriana! Reading something like this is really sad no matter what! I hope Adriana is ok as well as Lana! It is really obvious how much Lana's face has changed, first i thought maybe she lost more weight than she should but now it can be a drug problem. If Lana has a drug issue she needs to fix it asap and i wish her to be healthy again. I hate to see such things, but the right thing to do is support the ones with the problem because they are human beings and they make mistakes like all of us. Much love to both girls! 2 legends! Lets do not choose sides and stand by both girls for different reasons.
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joi Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 8:32AM
^ law and its fancy words. in my world people dont take scratches that seriously to call the cops for it. they are just mosquito bites. agree with you on the first part, if there is one person who will get lana blackballed it is lana herself. porn is not for her.
Maybe you didn't get it... SHE COMMITTED a criminal offense. She's been arrested and she's in jail right now, this is not a "scrap". Apart for that yes, I think I have the clinical eye to see if a person is taking something, porn scenes are shot often in an unfiltered fashion and just by looking into a performer's eye I can recognize it. Of course I wouldn't tell she's an addict without proof of that. I have the same feeling with other girls in porn, won't name them and I hope I'm wrong.
"When you're at the top, everyone is trying to knock you off the mountain. This may very well end up being a speedbump on the highway to the Hall of Fame for Lana, but if it is the beginning of a Derrick Rose type fall, we all know where to look." - Youngpageviews. Of course, it's easy to blame a person for bias and fanaticism, but I have always seen that lana is not so innocent and sweet, especially after her first "retirement". But here really is a lot of strange and incomprehensible in this story. When the fight between the girls, where obviously Lana was an aggressor otherwise why she was taken by the police, turned into a huge scandal, and all the models that were previously so friendly with her and did not say anything about her bad start to talk about drugs and her insanity. And then, Pierre Woodman is in a scandal, and LADirrect, led by his best friend, immediately throws it away. After her trip to Europe, I think Lana's relationship with the agency has clearly changed. And she often spoke about the policy that holds when voting for the performer of the year, which she does not win at all. That I know for sure that Pierre Wudman is not in vain for such a bad reputation, and Darek Hay is also not at all clean, and almost all of the models who took part in it and who joined after, from the same agency. I believe that Lana got mad and that she has attacked, and that she may have been drunk or high, and that it was from pity and disappointment, but such a huge scandal was not blown swiftly. She acted like a child, was rude and hysterical, but the drama around her is just incredible, like she raped someone or tried to kill. Lana's explanations are needed here, otherwise this is a sentence without trial.
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 8:50AM
I say it again: There could be video of Lana shooting {insert name here} and the fanbois would still deny she did it and/or find a way to excuse her behavior.
I Think Weinstein will say: If she'd wore a thick rubber from neck to toe nothing of this would have happened, let's enhance the law: rubber everywhere!
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 9:21AM
Anyone who defends her is a deadset dumbass, this was a disgrace! I'm glad her agency dropped her, I hope she gets blacklisted thb. This should not be tolerated. Lana was building quite nicely, easily becoming one of the better performers in the industry. The fact she's a druggo isn't surprising, her appearance has changed. She did quit for a short time and then came back and now does everything! It's obvious why. Having a tantrum because she didn't win an award LOL. All agencies should drug test imo, I know some do it.
It's not weird at all, do you actually think what people say on social media is 100% the truth on how they feel? lol. Probably never liked her for all we know. People trying to have convos with pornstars on twitter, now that is weird! Alcohol helps that come out and obviously her drug problem doesn't help. She seems like a nutcase, not just from this incident for other things she's done or said in the past too.
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Posted - Oct 10 2017 : 9:49AM
It's such a shame really, because they both did a scene in Lana Rhoades Unleashed, and it looked like they had great chemistry together. And is Mason the type of person to pressurise a performer to do DAP?