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Dirty Bob
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Posted - Apr 29 2007 : 10:58PM
I'm sorry...but does anyone else see something wrong with this concept? Here in Ohio the upright and uptight Citizens For Community Values (pr at least the people running it) are trying to push through a "6 ft rule" between strippers and customers?

Why?

According to reports is is said that "...the 6-foot rule is to protect strippers from being pawed by patrons and to prevent drug transactions between strippers and patrons."

Now help me on this. Frankly, the "bring pawed by customers" comment speaks for itself...peelers WANT to get close to obtain tips - else they wouldn't be peelers.

But what REALLY gets me confused is that these people at CCV honestly think that the strip club drug problem is so bad that they want to keep strippers, attired in basically nothing which could possibly conceal drugs, 6 feet away from customers...YET THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GET AS CLOSE AT THEY WANY WHEN CLOTHED which, if they were to try to pass drugs, would be a simple matter to conceal?

C'mon now.

I remember when they tried to keep a similar law on the books in Tampa - and their reason for the 6 ft. law THERE was to impliment it as a health reason. That got shot down, naturally.

I've heard of grasping at straws, but these reasons for the 6 ft law makes as much sense as farting against the wind.

RandomPrecision
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Posted - Apr 29 2007 : 11:31PM
Grasping at straws it may be but these stupid bastards will never stop until they pull the last straw.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 12:29AM
What, you don't recognize the Republican playbook when you see it? Don't talk about the thing you want to change, simply associate it with something you know people won't want to seen as in favor of. Never mind if the association is ludicrous. Most people won't exam it closely enough to realize that.
Kimi Lixx
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 1:00AM
Ah yes, but this is Ohio, this bill will certainly pass. So along with gambling, and prostitution, both of which are legal a puddle jump away, the strip club money will leave the state, too. After all, can't have all those laid off steel and auto workers spending their retirement compensation packages on pleasure IN the state. Oh no, that wouldn't be moral.
Dirty Bob
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 1:58AM
NAAH - Have faith...remember, this IS Ohio where, so I have been told by a reliable scheduled participant/fluffer, the police have ALREADY given the go-ahead for Erin Dayes to attempt her 1000 man gang bang in Columbus next month ...
 
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 11:07AM
I live in the Tampa area and can tell you what has happened here. It may interest readers since the proposed law seems to be quite similar.

The six foot rule was never officially repealed or taken off the books in Tampa. A few years ago, I recall a police chief or mayor admitting that they had higher priorities than aggressively pursuing six foot rule violators, but technically they can still arrest people if they desire.

Shortly after the six foot rule passed, police raided strip clubs and arrested lap dancers and their patrons by the bus load. This did not deter lap dancers or most patrons. There were so many people violating the rule that it quickly became obvious that the courts and jail systems could not possibly support this many "criminals". I doubt any of them spent more than a night in jail.

There were a few high profile six foot rule enforcements applied to visiting professional athletes during major sporting events. These arrests came within the first year or two after the six foot rule became a law (2000, if I recall correctly). There is no doubt in my mind that the six foot rule enforcements were selectively applied to these athletes because they are well-known public figures. The city of Tampa wanted to make an example of them.

To my knowledge, there have been no six foot rule arrests made in several years. I have been to clubs before and after the law was passed and thankfully have not noticed any difference in lap dances. If a stripper in Tampa told me that she couldn't do something because she had to obey the six foot rule, I would know that she was bullshitting me, believed that I was a cop, or more likely, it was her first and last day on the job.

Oddly enough, neighboring Pinellas County (St. Petersburg, Clearwater, etc...) has similar rules that have been in force for a long time. There is only one rinky-dink nude club in Pinellas County but there are dozens of pasty and bikini clubs. The rules seem to be obeyed in Pinellas; however, there is only one small nude club and it probably lacks the resources and number of dancers to make prosecuting it difficult. The six foot rule doesn't affect the dozens of pasties and bikini bars because it only applies to full nudity clubs.


Edited by - Walter on 4/30/2007 11:09:16 AM

Dirty Bob
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 12:38PM
Walt:

Yeah, if I remember correctly when Tampa first attempted to enforce it, some of the clubs (like 2001 Odyssey) went so far as to put a buzzable door at the front to slow down entrance of the police. They also took the wide-open lap dance area (which until then was one large room by the stairs where everyone could see everyone else getting a dance) and partitioned it into separate enclaves which provided more privacy. So, the new law actually enabled the customer to get a more private, and undoubtedly more personal, dance.

Then, suddenly, they quit enforcing it...for a few YEARS...until Joe Redner of Mons Venus (who had put one of those portable signs outside his business daring the police to enfoerce it!) pissed off the mayor at a function by refusing to shake his hand. A new arrests were then made, and I believe that a FEMALE judge who got the cases tossed them all out and refused to hear them saying it was a waste of time. That is the best that I remember happening.

dumas
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 8:02PM
I read that this law really has nothing to do with passing drugs . What they really want is to put the strip clubs and adult businesses out of business , then they will be happy . Ohio is just one big hick state .
These are the same people that had the law against gay marriage passed.

rocco

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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 10:07PM
The drugs must be hidden in the coochie.
Dirty Bob
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 : 10:26PM
Rocco - Ohio is anything BUT a hick state...but you are correct about the gay marriage thing - it is the SAME group of tight-asses who are trying to pull this off!

And of course the drug thing is just an excuse - they have to make it look they are justifying it some way...

db

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Posted - May 1 2007 : 1:37AM
It depends on where in Ohio you go. I lived there for years. I knew a couple of people I would definitely call hicks in Dayton. A little further North, it isn't quite so bad. It is a relatively conservative state. Like anywhere, there are some cool people and there are some real shitheads.
greg
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 2:51AM
In the early 90s I would go to Cincinnati for business trips.
I would go to Kentucky to the strip bars.

They had a club called the brass ass and the laws would not allow them to even remove their tops.

Pagoda
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 5:54AM
Seattle has already done this. The idea is to make it financially unattractive to strip for a living in Seattle. Thus, all the dancers go elsewhere, business dries up, and strip clubs go away. It's a back-handed way of running the strippers out of town.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 8:09AM
Exactly. It's been a long time since I've been to a strip club but if the strippers can't get closer than 6' to the customers, they can't get their tips (I assume that's what they call them?). I'm guessing that's where the real money in stripping is. But I obviously don't know much about it. I know conservatives are devious and underhanded so I know there's more to it than just keeping strippers from being "pawed" by the patrons. They wouldn't make a move unless the end result was to eliminate the business entirely. That's what they really want.
BuffaloSoldier
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 9:53AM
I believe we have a three-foot rule in Boston, but the only club I've ever seen it enforced is Centerfolds in the city. But most people still head to Providence, where Rhode Island law actually requires the girls to make contact at all times. Or maybe it just seems that way.

I think both prostitution and drugs should be legal, because people have the fundamental right to make a living how they want and fuck themselves up as much as they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else. Both are impossible to effectively police, anyways. The most ridiculous thing about this proposal is the idea that the only way a stripper could obtain drugs is customers sneaking them in during a lap dance. They're in a strip club, not prison.

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