I think OF as a cash cow those days are over for most performers. the economy has shrunk, everyday items are more and more expensive. The OF market is flooded with content and there is only so much money to go around. Now they have tiktok and AI to compete with, I started OF for the personal interactions and to support my favorite girls but honestly the quality of the content and the experience has gone into the toilet and as you said the prices have just gone up.
makes me wonder about possible income I could earn working for other studios...
I've been in the top 20% with over 2k monthly earnings & around the 40% with just $200 a month coming in from my OF account. I don´t charge for PPV & update my page daily, earning from subscriptions, chatting in private DM most days to my subs...
My point, I do not understand, why are there so many creators still on OF? Obviously half of the OF creators are earning less than $100 a month!
@iAmTheEnema, reading the first post on this thread, I just wanted to clarify, not all OF models update low quality footage. I shoot vids & photos several times every week & update the full length HD videos & high quality photo content every day, and not charging for extra PPV content. I'm sure there are many other models similar to me...
Been waiting close to 3 months for custom vid delivery from a well known performer. Whenever I ask about an eta I'm made to feel like a burden lol, like how dare I not understand how valuable her time is. If paid for something online and it took 3 months for delivery I would have the option to cancel the order and get a refund. Never again I'm so over this site.
Was it Jayden Cole? She is known for that. But yea it's super hit or miss, really depends on the star and how she happens to feel about getting it done.
Biggest issue with OF is the effect its had on video quality/presentation. Professional (and even small) studios invest in lighting kits, lens, skilled camera men etc. A lot of OF is shot on phones with basic lighting and a lack of understanding on things like composition, framing, camera angles etc.
Its also much worse value for the customer. A single PPV video for $30 compared to a monthly subscription to a full site.
There is also a lot of shady selling going on. Performers promising the "naughtiest video you've ever seen" which turn out to be a 5min masturbation video shot on their bathroom mirror.
Performers often market OF as a way to personalty interact with their fans. In reality its about extracting as much money as possible from a fan, before moving into the next one. Paying a subscription to then be met with endless requests to buy PPV from messages which are clearly auto generated.
^ Brent, I think this thread can be closed now since you've summed up OF perfectly. Like you, I think OF has had a negative effect on the entire porn business, at least from the perspective of a customer.
It's upto the customer to get all the information about a PPV before you purchase it, since OF doesn't have a rule that all PPVs must have previews.
Like if I'm trying to purchase content from a girl who's solo only, then I make sure to ask her what she's doing in it, how long the video is and if she has a trailer/censored preview, to send it.
Hell, if I unlock content that I already unlocked previously, then i even ask her to send me something free to make up for it.
It's time consuming for sure, but it's your money and you gotta think with your wallet and your brain rather than your dick.
The only good onlyfans I've ever seen is from actual pornstars that already did everything. I'm talking about anal, pov blowjobs, dps.. actual porn.
The rest are just making quick money, taking advantage of poor souls. Do I really blame them? Yeah they're awful people, but I blame the guys more. But then again they don't really know any better most of the time.
AI models of pornstars have huge potential for POV. Of course there would be fans that would seek the real interaction, but I don't think that's the majority.. we really just want to bust a nut and have our fantasy visualised. Ai models could be especially used to do something the pornstar never did and never will on camera.
Video and image quality is awful OF reduces the quality of content to save space also does not help the quality when chicks are using a 5 to 8 year old cellphones to shoot content. Chicks who make $8k+ a month should buy a good mirrorless camera and light setup.
Chicks who upload 10 to 30 second video WTF OF should make videos be a min of 5min
Chicks who do the extra PPV crap most chicks do it. This where check charges like $5 to $20 to access her content then they charge $20 to $75 extra for a 2 to 5 min video or a image set of 3 to 8 images. OF should not allow PPV content everything should be included in the main account price.
Chicks who only post like 2 videos and 4 images in 6 weeks example Teanna Trump. There are like 15 to 20 chicks if they posted content like Riley Reid they could make 1 to 3 mill a year.
Its interesting how many performers act offended when you ask what your buying. Its like they know its crap but their hoping enough fans will cave and pay anyway. All seems to be geared towards a quick buck, rather than long term loyalty through quality content.
OF markets itself as a way for performers and fans to get closer to each-other. In my experience the opposite seems true. No matter how much money you hand over, its never enough. Its an illusion of interaction.
I know what you saying like 2 1/2 years ago most chick had comments turned no for every post now only like 5% to 10% chicks on OF has comments turned on now S M H. Another thing I have seen is a lot of chicks now charge $5 to $10 for a simple DM these chick are getting really greedy now.
I had a girl block me and call me cheap because I told her I budget the amount of money I spend on the site. You can't win unless you spend like a whale. At this point I'd rather just invest in more interesting site memberships it's cheaper and the quality is better. The funny thing is some of the best follows on the site are the male performers. Great prices, clear and simple communication surprisingly gracious and nice.
OF wouldn´t do this, they´re making way too much from those PPV sales :(
Personally wishing they did make it a rule, & to make vids a minimum length as I don't charge PPV as it states on my OF intro & most of my vids are 5 to 15 mins. Many creators would leave or their accounts closed & would be better for realistic & proper creators & pornstars looking to give a real service & pleasurable experience like me. x
For me it's the access to "DMs" which come to find out aren't even run by the performers themselves which sucks. But being able to give them feedback about the type of content we'd like to see or what we'd like to see them wear sounds great. Imagine being able to tell one of your favorite pornstars in their prime to wear something specific. Usually I just tell them to fuck with the stripper heels on no stockings. That usually gets ignored I had one of them get offended and get mad. I'm like it's just feedback or advice that really turned me off them. You can strike gold if it's a small time or amateur creator.
I have no problem with paying for PPVs if it's reasonably priced and worth it. But I hate the shady ones who keep on spamming the same content over and over and hope you accidently buy a scene you previously bought before or the ones that want you to tip them and then they'll send it to you later. The honor system don't work so don't fall for those. Usually I just stick to Manyvids but I hate when they keep content exclusive on their OF pages because it'll be months/years before it shows up on their Manyvids page.
I also can't stand the girls who have OF pages but don't post anything there and instead direct you to another site. What's the point of having an OF page if you're not gonna post anything there? Make it PPV idc. But post something. Instead of calling it "Marketing." for your other pages.
The worst offenders though are the girls who post on social media about a scene or a bts of a scene all over social media. Sign up for their OF and it's not there. They lied.
Edited by - lancevancedance2020 on 10/16/2025 11:33:37 PM
fyi, if you top up your OF wallet, then you can tip in singles/less than $5 using that instead of CC. if you're using CC, then $5 is the minimum tip amount.
Sadly this is very common. A performer I started following was selling a lesbian scene she shot with Riley Reid. It sounded really good so I paid up. The video was 5mins long, most of which was teasing the viewer with a few kisses and about 30 seconds of oral. I messaged the girl saying I think you have sent me a preview or trailer of the video but it turns out that was the whole thing. I asked if she really met up with Riley and this was all they shot (because in my view it was nothing). She said yes. I can only assume something went wrong behinds the scenes as the whole thing felt like a waste of time and wasn't what they originally planned.
^ you thinking this wasn't what they originally planned or that something went wrong behind the scenes is the reason OF performers will continue their shady practices.
It would suck to find out that the person interacting with you wasn't the performer but if you were enjoying the interaction prior to knowing then what the real issue is that you now know it's not the performer. Seeing the Wizard behind the curtain removes the illusion of magic and that's often not a good thing. As for feedback. If the person interacting with you has enough pull with the performer then you might get what you want as opposed to if you had asked the performer directly.
The first problem with the term reasonably priced is that we aren't all working with the same porn budget. While we might all want to buy a PPV video from one of our favorite. Not everyone is willing or able to fork over the asking price. The second and biggest problem is that even if the content is reasonably priced. The business model OF has to operate on is that you won't know what you are getting until you paid for it and that's where most people get burned. What's worse is that it will never change.
it's a joke that performer accounts (in reality, some guy in a warehouse somewhere responding on behalf of whichever Chrome tab he's viewing at the time) will respond questioning why you want to know what you're being charged $40 for
I've had chats where I've responded/quoted the message above that says "reply #wet for a free squirting video!" only to get "Hi, why are you saying wet to me? is it raining where you are??" type nonsense back
or I've followed the page post and sent the # comment and received "Sorry, I've no idea what scene you mean, here's one for $40 that's sure to turn you on!"
it's a joke that OF doesn't require all PPV content to have trailers or screengrabs of the actual content being sold, as well as an immediate refund system for people who have paid for content they didn't expect/want to receive due to the scam they've got set up
Most accounts seem to have at least some level of automatic/AI/Bot interaction.
I've had a girl tell me to fuck off because I wouldn't pay her $80 to 'rate my cock' (which is a bizarre idea to begin with) only to receive a message 5 mins later saying "Hi baby, how are you today? Want to play with me" Also had a very similar experience with a very famous star who sent a triage of homophobic slurs when I wouldn't pay. Wish I had screenshot them.
I don't know if OF has some auto chat function built-in, but there must be some 3rd party software at play.
I wonder if lawsuits will eventually bring the site down.
are there any performers who are known for being excellent in dealing with their fans, that are truly trying to give you a friend/girlfriend experience?....would like to have someone to follow
Charlotte Sins - runs her own page Natasha Nice - runs her own page Valerica Steele - runs her own page Abigaiil Morris - runs her own page Moneybirdette - runs her own page Vic Marie - not sure but whoever runs it is awesome Proxy Paige - lives in Europe but is a awesome person Gal Ritchie - not sure if she still runs her page but is awesome
With all follows patience is key and spending money. I have nothing but respect for the above ladies professionalism, it's not easy giving everyone that supports you one on one attention.
Another small thing I do not like about OF I have notice too many chick acting all the 12 to 14 year chicks you seen on Tiktok. Guys do not want to pay for chick that looks really drunk or high that does mostly those stupid dances to awful music you have to mute 2 seconds after you hear it these videos are max 20 seconds long.
warning for others - don't bother subbing to Val Dodd's page now
after a couple of months of being a loyal sub, have had zero messages and no replies to my messages (including messages with tips) so her page manager has dropped off the radar too
was a shame, as I was a massive fan of Val's and was trying to buy content, but the only message I had was "I have videos to share, I'll send you some" and that was back in September, with nothing since
even complaining to OF doesn't work because they say it's for the page owner/person to deal with, so not even offering refunds for lack of engagement.
I love Val, She is really a sweetheart, but in these situations, it's not considerate of her, because it's made to look as if she's active when she's not. She should have like a vacation responder message and make the profile free for the period she gone, OR not accept new paid subscribers during the time away.
The problem with all of us is that we are so nice to performers we like, that they don't even think what they're doing is inconsiderate.
Prices are out of control. I've mostly moved on besides bargain shopping, I treat OF like I treat any other business. I window shop until I find a value. Still waiting on that custom, stopped asking about it probably never coming. Calling it a lost.
take screenshots of your convo and message OF support about it. tweet it out from a burner if you're worried about backlash. But also how long has it been?
Six months. I'd rather not deal with her or whoever runs her page anymore. She's retired from mainstream work so blasting her would do nothing but make me look petty.
Just a heads up went back on Onlyfans after 3 years hiatus. Some of the accounts I used to use which are still going and are popular are putting their long videos in DMs only which is an issue as these creators are No PPV for around £10-£15 a month.
Reason is to stop leaks but it makes the usability of Onlyfans now not worth a sub.
It's more to encourage members to stay subscribed. If your subscription lapses, the DM's are lapsed as well. But the other posts are available from back to the beginning
The thing with OF is Porn Performers make all the $$ off theyre Labor, as long as it is possible for them to $$ in , theyre will be shitty unwatchable OF. The stuff Dredd does??? LMAO, WTF?? yet enough Fans buy it where he makes more $$ then working for Jules Jordan . Thats the Problem
I have always hated Onlyfans. It has had a very bad effect on our industry. Anyone and their Grandma are able to sign up - what a joke. I have been working (full-time) in the industry now for 21 years as a video actor, producer and model photographer, so I do count my blessings that I am able to continue making sales with my paysite, but I am certain that Onlyfans has had a negative effect on sales. Sales are good, but they used to be much higher.,
Onlyfans never holds its content creators responsible. Even the performers with good track records have turned fishy and borderline scammers. Already, we'd have performers that make you pay a decent sub price to find that there are no nudes and every video is ppv. Meanwhile, they wine on Twitter about how fans want them to return to pro scenes where we can pay one sub price to get all content free for the length of the sub. There's a performer I won't name who hasn't officially retired from pro shoots but rarely does them anymore. Just this week she suddenly upped her base sub price from $10 to $50 and announced that content will remain the same; keep in mind, most of her posts are already non-nude, and all of her videos are ppv starting at $20.
Recently, I tipped on a post the required amount for a video to be sent to the DMs by a performer that has had a good track record until now. The video immediately got dropped in the DMs locked for literally 6x the amount I already tipped and what the video was priced at. When I questioned, I got those bot/hired help responses that "oops that price is wrong the content is worth this much." When you try to question, you get the "oh well since there was a misunderstanding on your part I'll discount it $10," and when you refuse they say "well maybe another day! Xoxo" and leave you with nothing.
That happened again with another OF performer (again, she had been pretty reliable and honest with prices and content until now). Nowhere do they give instructions or updates on "price changes," but I've noticed if you just wait until that random afternoon they send a video to everyone's DMs, it'll be locked at the price listed on their page which I already tipped, but this time it's not 6x the amount like they said.
Right now , Dharma Jones and Brianna Frost are the only good ones I am aware of ( not that i do extensive exploration). They get credit for delivering a consistent and reliable product and experience and for not outsourcing to spammy bots and just being overall authentic and pleasant individuals. Oh and they make plenty good money because subscribers appreciate that. Who would've thunk?
Apparently, this performer received a number of complaints on her sudden OF subscription price increase to such a high amount because she released a video today about it. Basically she put the whole thing on her subscribers saying she was "giving an inch and her subscribers were taking a mile" and she feels taken advantage of by them because they wanted more new content and nude lives instead of the no nude life updates and cooking streams.
Don't understand why OF content creators and pros on the platform raise their prices, hire agencies, and post less content their subscribers wanted to see and then publicly blame/shame the very people who pay them.
I cancelled OnlyFans because I was stupid enough to think you could get a personal connection there. I was subbing Hard for Desiree Desire, the light skinned one (there are 2). I was generous to the Max with her, we spoke for months. First on OF but later she gave me her email address. By The Way- Desiree Desire does NOT respond to you herself. Some lady in the UK does it for her. Desiree was constantly in some kind of money crisis. I said No sometimes but said Yes sometimes too. I must have said Yes enough for her to be done with me and she Ghosted me.
Desiree Desiree is NOT worth supporting on OnlyFans, any other model will treat you better. It's not even Desiree talking to you.
Terrible content. Just the distorted wide angle framing alone makes me totally skip it. And somehow he manages to bring in the most hottest performers around and the guy can't even cum. He has fake it. Case in point the Savanna Samson collab.
I wonder if the way that OF is changing (or maybe it was always this way) will drive a resurgence of studio porn. I don't have much OF experience but it seems to me that a big draw was personal interaction with a model and that seems to be gone. Based on what I've read here, it's all grift now. If customers start staying away, OF creators will need to adapt. If customers come back to studio and site subscriptions, then the models will likely follow.
regardless of the shooting in wide, he does bring in some of the hottest performers yes....and he can cum. see the creampie recently with Agatha Vega, gia derza recently along with Martina Smeraldi and Siri. all decent real cumshots. his content is well lit, the girls are always made up hot with hair and makeup, and hes one of the most professional performers. thats why his onlyfans is top shelf. thats why girls want to work with him.but go off about "wide lens".
^I always thought that OF business model was a problem and I haven't changed my mind. What is much worse today is that there are simply too many models on the platform and not enough people willing or able to pay the rates those various models ask for. I would love to see more models in the industry but I don't think there are enough available jobs to support the current number of active performers so how exactly would it be able to supper just a handful new number of models.