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knightz
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8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 5 2007 : 9:43PM
Last Edit:
This thing unfolded in a very unpredictable way.
I won't change the original text, see my last post in this thread for the way this story ended.
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I was searching around for the best prices on 21 Sextury DVDs and oopsdvd.com came up on Google. They had 3 Lesbian Fever titles on sale for $7.99, and others were regular $19.99.
I ordered 2 of the $7.99 ones and they came. One was a real copy but the other was an obvious illegal counterfeit, and a very poor one at that. It had an inkjet printed label on the disc itself, no menus... it just plays from start to finish, the disc was hard-labeled "MY_DATA". But, the worst part is that it was not even the right movie on the disc.
I have a few more on order from them, I'm just hoping that at least they are real DVDs. After that I will stick to sites that are more well known, or just sites I have had good dealing with so far.
I emailed them when the discs arrived this morning, but they have not written back yet. If they don't I will do what I can to report them, at least to 21 Sextury to see if they want to pursue the matter legally.
Beware of this site, stay far away. Their prices ARE to good to be true.

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I wrote to them again last night, but this time I threatened to report them to all concerned parties, including the FBI. That did get a reply from them, but not what I hoped (I hoped they would replace the DVD). A guy named John Lee said he is sorry I am "not satisfied with the quality" of the DVD (it's not even the right DVD, it's a pirate of another DVD that has no menu system) and he "will discuss it with his wholeseller" (as if I care about what a third party has to say). He obviously won't step up to the plate and offer a replacement, so I think this discussion of it with someone else is just a stall he hopes I will believe. He says "he doubts" that they would sell him pirate DVDs (but I have one of his pirated DVDs, from oopsdvd.com, in my possession), so it's obvious he just doesn't care. STAY AWAY from oopsdvd.com
Here is his entire reply:
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From: John Lee
Subject: Re: Order #73400588
Dear Mike,
I am sorry to hear that you are not satisfied with the quality of the dvd.
I will talk with our wholeseller to see what is going on. Although, I seriously doubt that they will sell us pirated dvds - since they are one of the largest adult dvds distributor in California, you never know.
Thank you for letting us know about this issue. I will pay a visit to the wholeseller first thing tomorrow.
Truly,
John L.
Customer Service
VJ Entertainment, LLC
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This has bad news written all over it.

Edited by - knightz on Jun 6 2007
Edited by - knightz on Jun 7 2007
Edited by - knightz on Jun 13 2007

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knightz
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8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 6 2007 : 11:02AM
More confirmation about the oopsdvd.com pirate scam...
I had made 3 separate, 2 DVD, orders with them. The second order came today and it contained another pirate copy of a Lesbian Fever DVD. It was an exact copy of the other fake one I mentioned above, (no menus, inkjet printed label, etc.)) but it had a different "MY_DATA_#" disc ID label (the # was different).
I have one more 2-DVD order coming, I would bet at least one of them will be a pirated one. This means that I pay regular price (becuase at least one of the 2 in each order has been legimate), or what most other sites are charging, but you can see how they use criminal methods to get money and sell their DVDs. They sell you one at regular price, and give you a home-made one for the another, while telling you both are half-price.

Avoid them completely.
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Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jun 6 2007 : 12:40PM
What is the return address on the shipping label?
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knightz
Member

8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 7 2007 : 2:50AM
After many emails back and forth between myself and Antigua Pictures (21Sextury) I got a final email from Antigua saying he just found out that there was indeed some bad DVDs that got released "by mistake". Antigua had originally offered to send me a good replacement copy, until they found out it was really their fault, then he just gave me his URL where I could buy them.
The seller, oopsdvd.com, had no idea that Antigua had sold these bad DVDs, and either did oppsdvd's distributor (Springtown). oopsdvd has told me that he is removing the Lesbian Fever faulty DVDs from his site until Antigua makes and issues good ones, and said they have credited my card for the bad ones. Who knows how many of their other series were released in this condition.
I profusely apologized to oopsdvd for thinking the worst, but he said that he understands, and is sorry for all the frustration and inconvenience.
Strange how this unfolded, the manufacturer being the one making these apparent "pirate" copies. I am going to avoid buying the 21Sextury line, and the entire Antigua line, because there is still bad discs out there... they didn't even do a recall after they knew about this. Very unprofessional.
The bottom line is that oopsdvd.com is ok, it's Antigua / 21Sextury products we have to watch out for.
Edited by - knightz on 6/7/2007 2:49:50 AM
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Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 7 2007 : 5:24AM
Antigua is not the same company as 21Sextury though.
AFAIK Antigua is only the US distributor of 21Sextury titles.
Jacco
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knightz
Member

8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 7 2007 : 2:53PM
Some info we can all use...
I got another email from Antigua discussing this and some other things. This is a quote from that email relating to the Lesbian Fever issue:
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"all the titles with the word fever haven now been discontinued. I will only be releasing the European titles. for example lesbian fever is really Lez glam. only purchase the titles that are the European names. there websites are the best in the world."
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I have seen the same DVDs released under different names, like Les Cuties is also known as Teen Fever. I don't know how we can tell which are the European titles for future released titles, but it shouldn't be too difficult with a little research.
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Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 7 2007 : 4:07PM
It's quite confusing with the 21sextury titles. For the first few titles they did their own distribution, then they got one distributor, then for their new titles another distributor and then another one, all just for Europe. And then they got Antigua for the US and titles got renamed.
We just got a big box today with supposedly all current available titles in Europe. I'll see if I can make a list of what is really what.
Jacco
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Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 8 2007 : 2:01AM
That would be most useful for 21sextury fans, thanks!
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Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 8 2007 : 7:17AM
Will be sometime next week I hope, we will have to check them all.
Jacco
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knightz
Member

8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 13 2007 : 4:50PM
I thought it was over, but OopsDVD.com is now trying to "hit me with the postage" for returning the defective DVDs.
Jon Lee, of OoopsDVD.com, said if I would return the defective products he would credit my online account for any postage I paid returning them. He then closed my account. He was probably hoping I sent the DVDs back immediately, and wouldn't notice the closed account until I had paid to send them back. They were packaged and ready to go, but I held off on a gut feeling that this guy was not being entirely genuine about the whole thing being unknown to him (because he's selling these defective products at less than half the price of other online retailers).
I have sent 5 emails to him, since late last week, asking about my closed online account, and have not received a reply to any of them. Even if he is away, there is no one available to respond to emails. I do see a credit on my credit card for the 2 bad discs, but I will not pay to return them to him. He would rather lose a customer who buys DVDs online almost every day (I watch for the sale items). I suspect this account closing is a last ditch attempt to "pull one over on me". Very unprofessional. It's not about the money to me, I have sent back a defective product at my expense before, because I received such good, prompt, professional service, and communication from the company. (That particular company was one that uses ADT for their listings, OopsDVD doesn't.)
OopsDVD.com is not a place I want to stay a customer at, after all this, and I would suggest others stay away from them as well.
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rlankford
Senior Member

2045 Posts
6/06
Posted - Jun 13 2007 : 8:07PM
The Antigua/21st Sextury distribution combo has been a fiasco. Changing the title names did nothing but confuse the customer. Now I noticed that even XRent has been duped into buying duplicates - they had Les Glam #1 scheduled to be released in late June, but Les Glam #1 is the exact same DVD as Lesbian Fever #1, which was released in Feb. 2006. Here is a list of what I know have been changed/duplicate titles:
Lesbian Fever #1 is Les Glam #1
Lesbian Fever #2 is Les Glam #2
Lesbian Fever #3 is Sandy's Club #1
Lesbian Fever #4 is Les Glam #3
Lesbian Fever #5 is Sandy's Club #2
Lesbian Fever #6 is Les Glam #4
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knightz
Member

8 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jun 17 2007 : 2:54AM
I agree it's confusing as well with repeated movies having different names, but it does go way beyond being confusing. It was as if someone recorded the entire contents of a different title (not the one stated on the disc label) in one continuous MPEG2 stream, compressed it down from a DVD9 quality to DVD5 quality, and then burned that single video file onto discs that were printed with another 21Sextury title name on them.
I love the 21Sextury DVDs, but I'm afraid to purchase any now because not only might I get the wrong movie, but it might be a compressed version of whatever title happens to be on the disc, and no menus for choosing a scene. Normally their (good) DVDs play at from 6000kbps up to 8000kbps, but these bad copies were less than 4000kbps MPEG2... compilation quality video, reduced to fit on DVD5.
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mrdngm
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754 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jun 24 2007 : 1:54AM
That means that some of these titles exist under three(!) names, as the original manufacturer's title of Lesbian Fever is Les Babez. The 21st Sextury retail saga just keeps getting worse. From the beginning it was incomprehensible that Antigua was not getting the product into the many video stores in Manhattan. That was just a bad sign from the get go. The titles finally started to trickle in here and there but there's not much of a presence in the stores, last time I checked.
And now this pirating fiasco. This is sad.
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Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jun 26 2007 : 8:02PM
Getting a proper list of all 21Sextury movies is hard, we have now put over 50 of their movies on our site, but there are still several dozen more we have to add, and a lot of those titles are not even listed on their own distribution site. Lesglam and Lez Babes do not have the same cast list, but I can't be sure of scenes haven't been re-used without watching them all. Not to mention all these girls listed with just their first name.
Jacco
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mrdngm
Member

754 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jul 2 2007 : 3:18PM
I thought that Lesbian Fever 1 = Les Babez 1 but I see that Anetta Keys is not in the cast list for Lesbian Fever 1. I had thought that the Lesbian Fever series corresponded to Les Babez but I guess it's not so precise.
The early volumes of Les Babez will always generate interest because of Sandra Shine, Sophie Moone, and some other girls who are superstars thanks to Viv Thomas. And Anetta Keys is also a big draw.
Edited by - mrdngm on 7/2/2007 3:19:27 PM
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mrdngm
Member

754 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jul 8 2007 : 7:25AM
A newer series from 21st Sextury is being released by Antigua. It's called 'Lez Cuties'. According to an ADT price search they're up to four volumes already but it's been under my radar 'til now. I checked out vol. 2 - very nice 21st Sextury eye candy...
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