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Drew Black
broken crankshaft


8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - May 8 2004 : 9:43AM
I've been having a very enlightening email conversation with Em for the past week. I'm starting to use Opera for more of my browsing needs as a result.

One of the things I'm curious about is how many Opera users are really out there? I didn't realize that many (most?) Opera users configure the browser to pretend it's Internet Explorer. Our web stats show that only 2% of our visitors use Opera as their browser. I suspect that the number is actually higher.

Are you using Opera in IE mode? If you are, which version of Opera are you running?


Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - May 8 2004 : 10:35AM
I use Opera (7.23) occasionally...it's much faster than IE and has a lot of cool features, like mouse gestures.

I believe that the default setting in recent versions of Opera is to identify the browser as IE6.

- Saki [faqs]

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - May 8 2004 : 1:09PM
I love Opera, and thanks to Em, I did find out that I could update it to use with sites that use Java, but haven't tried it yet, though I did do the upgrade.

The best features are tabbed browsing, wow is that a cool idea, having all open windows, tabbed for convienience inside the main window, rather than having upwards of 15 IE windows scattered about.

I've been using Opera since I found out about it, about a year ago, for most browsing.

- - - B -I -G -m -i -k -e , over & out! - - -

BadKarma
Member

110 Posts
11/00
Posted - May 9 2004 : 5:13AM
Opera is great.

I use Opera 7.x on Windows, Mac OS X, and 6.x on Linux.

Its much faster than IE (IMHO). The only problems I have encountered are with sites that are designed ONLY for IE. In those cases Opera sometimes has a rendering problem, as does every other non-IE browser.

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 9 2004 : 10:02AM
I've got opera on one of my computers, it's a huge improvement over IE. It loads signifigantly faster than mozilla or ie when you're starting it, but since around 1.4/5, it's been the same to slower than the gecko engine, used my mozilla and k-meleon, which i've found to be the fastest. I can't get myself to pay for it, in all honesty, mozilla, firefox, k-meleon and the IE shells(slimbrowser, avant, myie2) all offer the same tabbed interface, with the gecko ones having the advantage of hundreds of plugins thanks to it being open source. I still have some trouble with it, it's identifying itself as IE falsely hurts its standards-compliance and barfs rendering a page here and there. It's still lightyears ahead of IE, but with the linux/slashdot crowd firmly with mozilla and family circling their wagons, there's a good chance it's future may be as the laserdisc of browsers unless it gets swallowed up for it's source and programmers, netscape-style.
 
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 9 2004 : 1:18PM
I used Opera quite a bit in the past but I often ended up starting Mozilla anyway for its IMHO better rendering.

Since Firefox (aka Firebird aka Phoenix) hit version 0.6 I haven't used anything else.
Excellent rendering, tabbed browsing, pop-up blocker and short load times.
What more can you ask?

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 9 2004 : 2:39PM
kperv-it's awesome, and free. if you haven't, install the adblock extension, and you'll never see banners, flash, or other annoying stuff that starts moving around on webpages-i'd guess i see about 10% of the ads that i should be and it's rule-based so you don't have to block individual banners, etc.there are so many good alternatives to stuff like IE, media player, and most notably, IMHO norton's entire line.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - May 10 2004 : 12:46AM
Thanks for the feedback.

I've been working on "fixing" the forum layout and need to test it with plenty of browsers.
here's this thread in the new look.

Does it look OK for you?

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 10 2004 : 1:33AM
Looks fine in Firefox 0.8.
But I prefer the current scheme with alternating background colours for the posts.

Just say so if you want some screenshots mailed to you.

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - May 10 2004 : 1:50AM
easy enough to fix.
Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 10 2004 : 2:39AM
Why fix :) Several style selections (each under 1KB) could be offered for users to choose. We already get a cookie, so a selection of forum styles would be easy to implement at close to zero bandwidth cost...

(more via @)

Em

edit: I meant under 100B not 1KB...

Edited by - em on 5/10/2004 2:46:28 AM

picman
Senior Member

Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass.
2884 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 10 2004 : 7:13AM
The new layout is more elegant looking, and that's good, but the font size seems a little smaller and could prove to be more difficult to read for some of us.
snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 10 2004 : 10:30AM
I use IE and Opera 7 mostly. Some websites restrict the browser to IE and Netscape, so that toggle is essential at times. I encountered the problem when using bank and credit union websites for online banking and bill pay.

Once in awhile I use Mozilla too.

-- Snowman

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - May 10 2004 : 10:25PM
Here's a preview of what I'm leaning towards for the forum view pages.

Mr_White
Member

Mercedes Fan. Not talking cars here....
344 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 11 2004 : 1:00PM
My Opera pretends to be IE, because some pages don´t show up, when they know the truth......

That´s in certain ways very funny, isn´t it? But it´s true, some websites don´t show up when you use Opera and let it not pretend to be something else.

I hate every program made by Microsoft, so I use alternates, whenever possible. Microsoft has far too many spying tools and I do not feel comfortable with these. If someone wants to know something from me or about me, they should ask me and give me the right to decide, whether I want to give an answer or not. Anything else does not feel right in my book.

btw, I use Opera 7.22

<edited to add opera version>

Edited by - Mr_White on 5/11/2004 1:06:40 PM

 
Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 11 2004 : 1:13PM
Well, to give them credit when it's due, Microsoft Notepad never, ever, crashed on me :)

Em

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 11 2004 : 3:43PM
LOL ... give them time. They messed up CALCULATOR once!

-- Snowman

Damn~small~penis
Member

100 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 11 2004 : 6:16PM
I used to use Opera, but I just didn't like it. I do remember it being very fast though.

I prefer Mozilla, been using it for years.

Currenty using Firefox 0.8. Fantastic

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 11 2004 : 9:08PM
I took a look at that in Opera (7.11) Drew and it seems messed up.

Icons are displaying twice next to each other, and the icon of the Lock is blown up super big. Most of the time, I'm not seeing icons at all, just the black Adultdvdtalk.com box.

-- Snowman

Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 12 2004 : 1:51AM
Snowman,7.11 is *more than a year old*. Opera 7.5 was released today, which is what I'd suggest you download...

Em

Edited by - em on 5/12/2004 8:44:35 AM

snowman872
RainCoatReviews.com

400 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 12 2004 : 4:27AM

Are you saying that would fix the problem EM? Or just informing me of a newer version?

-- Snowman

Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 12 2004 : 4:42AM
Both.
Pornmaster Mike
Senior Member

32DDD
1462 Posts
8/02
Posted - May 12 2004 : 12:46PM
i use Opera - mozilla as a backup as sometimes Opera doesn't agree with certain webpages...

but Mozilla i'm not too crazy about - slow as hell...

- Pornmaster Mike... somewhere building the Temple of Nautica...
www.adultdv-depot.com

Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 13 2004 : 3:16AM
Mike, that is very good to hear!

However, I can't get past your front page at depot, although I accepted the cookie, and even enabled scripting and referrer logging to see if that would get me past the obstacle. No go. Are you aware of this?

Em




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