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Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:02AM
Hi,
I'm sure some of you will disagree but I'm just over double anal for the sake of double anal.... At first it was fun to watch, kind of in a car crash kind of way but now...I don't know...isn't enjoying porn more about sex and the people than the specific acts?....isn't it just as sexy to watch a gorgeous woman get fucked in her pussy and not keep a score card of this act being performed and that act being performed?...to just do an act so you can say the act was done doesn't make a whole of sense to me...are we so desensitized to watching the act of sex that we expect something newer and more outrageous in order to justify the experience?....I saw in his interview that Lexington Steele said we would see less anal in his videos because it was not something that turned him on a whole lot...well, bravo to that...so much of what we see these days is formula which I guess is one of the big things that turns me on about Mason's stuff...it is a lot of things but it feels honest...I wish producers would let the performers relax and do what they want to do...if stuff happens, it happens...double anal included.....if they are into it chances are I'm going to get into it as well....I hope I'm not being simplistic and I'll get off my soapbox now....

Max Booty
As evil plans go, it doesn't suck.

Edited by - Maximum Booty on Feb 28 2003

DenverDon
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:13AM
Max,

I think you will get a lot of agreement on this too.

DenverDon

Yani Z
Vizual Films

179 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:25AM
Thank you! I have no Idea what is so sexy about that, but I shoot it because I think you guys like it! The movies I make are not for me but for you guys!!! So If we can get a poll on this?
Sorry guys but to me something seems wrong when to penises are rubbing against each other! Glad I behind the camera! :)
Yani Z
Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:34AM
I have no trouble accepting that RonK, for example, simply loves to see double anal. Most of us have our own particular kinks, such as my fondness for the way Barely Legal sometimes has the girls pee. Ramsey likes foot themed stuff, and so on. I think specialized movies cater to most legal interests.

With that said, I think that many or most porn viewers, as they become bored and jaded over the years, tend to have more and more interest in seeing good chemistry between the performers. That is certainly true for me, I have seen just about every act and position many times, but what still gets me off is a girl gazing, enraptured, into Nacho's eyes, as he gives her a strong fuck. There's plenty of passionless sex caught on film, but real energy and excitement is rare enough to still give me a thrill.

Sbando Boy
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:44AM
Well thought and well written, but I don't find "my porn is better than your porn" a convincing argument. And I don't think that some porn is more morally acceptable than the rest, as long as the girls are well paid and respected.
 
Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 1:58AM
didn't realize that was what I had implied as it was certainly not what I meant. I don't think for an instant that what I enjoy is better than what RonK or anyone else enjoys. All I'm saying is what I said. I would much rather see a great fuck scene between two people or three people who are into what they are doing and not a scene where the performers go through a diagram of positions just for the sake of doing them. I understand and accept there will always be niche videos for different crowds but I suppose I'm also saying that as viewers we should expect something more than just an act being performed. Its all about the passion & the heat of the scene. At least to me.
Where did the subject of moraility get thrown into this? I'm a firm believer that as long all parties are open to what is going to happen and they are of legal age, anything goes. We act as our own censors, anything else is just wrong.

Max Booty
As evil plans go, it doesn't suck.

Walter Burns
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:01AM
I see there are some lovers of "blissful rupture" in the house.
I still have to address the part of "pure porn spectacle" to make my attempt at building a systematic porn pragmatics complete. For now, I can say that the people that have posted in this thread so far seem to be beyond the stage of "basic porn viewing". If you are positive, you may call yourself "sophisticated viewers". If you are negative, you may call yourself "jaded viewers".
Yani Z
Vizual Films

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2/03
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:17AM
Yes the morality thing through me too!
I enjoy it when the couple really turns each other on. You can see something in the girls eyes as she looks at the guy, it really catches my attention. I even stop and look over my eye piece to watch, this is really about the only time I do this. One of the best this I hear is when the girl whispers "please don't make me cum on camera!" Wow to me that's just hot! Maybe I am one of those small niches in this? But to me real is always best!
Yani
Sbando Boy
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:49AM
Well, Max...
You started by listing some dislikes of yours.
Those same dislikes are, more than likely, exactly what somebody else finds his/her cup of tea.

About the "moral" thing (and as a general rule):
I don't write EVERY sentence as a direct reply, or even an "attack", to the post I'm replying to. Actually, I never attack anybody. Everybody is always so touchy. Relax.
Your soapbox rant was well written and I agree with you on almost every point but not on the first sentence, which imply, according to my perception, that there's a "higher level" of porn. I don't think so.
The contrast between the first sentence and the rest of your message made it appear as a pc post, and I'm sure that wasn't your intention.

EDIT: the title of the thread is "Over Double Anal". I hope you can see my point now.


Edited by - Sbando Boy on 2/28/2003 3:04:19 AM

DenverDon
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 9:43AM
Kinda like the way you stated that. Guess that makes me jaded then. I like porn, but especially like the scenes that have some "blissful rapture" in them.

DenverDon

Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
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9/02
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 11:25AM
no, I see now where you could reach that conclusion. It still isn't what I meant. The "Over Double Anal" was simply what launched me into the rant.
I did not feel like you were attacking me, and I'm also pretty relaxed but the moral thing just could me off guard and I didn't see where you made that leap.
I'm going to tweak the name of the thread.

Max Booty
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Walter Burns
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 12:00PM
I think that Sbando in this post and the discussion that followed it, are dealing with 2 different things: an moral/ethical (or even political) classification and a normative aesthetic classification.
I have already explained my stance on the value, functions and uses of an moral/ethical classification in other recent threads and I more or less agree with Sbando, although the term "respected" is too vague imo and is therefor not very useful in drawing clear lines between the acceptable and the unacceptable.

My stance on the value, functions and uses of a normative aesthetic classification is pretty complex and can be connected to my refusal to write reviews, or my hesitation and reservations about making "best of" lists or even simple recommondations.
In short, I don't belief in any universally applicable normative aesthetic classifications. This can be tied to my work as a revisionist film historian, who has great doubts about the historic analytical validity of a system of canonical works. Furthermore I believe that every aesthetic evaluation is personal in nature (based on qualitative interpretative operations, which can not be judged on their validity) and tells at least as much about the evaluator as about the work that is being evaluated. So, making a normative aesthetic classification (where one specific aesthetic form is judged as the norm to which other works should be compared) is really saying that some people are better than others. That is not acceptable for me.

shameless
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 12:36PM
Basically I agree with you. Intense sex act is better often than going through double anal motions.
But if I buy a new dvd-player for instance, I try to get the most features possible for the same price. Same is with porn for me. I would like to get most possible acts from only girl tease section to double anal, double pussy, triple and cum-shower in each scene. But this clearly strctured in different chapters. So that those who dont like dap/dpp can jump this segment and go stright to cum-shot.
I do quite like double anal, not because of shock or taboo, but because of intensity. Often girl starts only to show emotion in porn films when double penetration starts. Before she is often like cold puppet.
But although I like double anal I sometimes feel like watching only tease section and than go stright to cum-shot scene or watching only dp/dap-part, but with 10 different girls in a row.
Dvd gives so many new possiblities, why dont companies use them better.
I use very good dvd player sometimes just to listen cd, the same possibility I would like to have with ALL dvds I own. Watch just beautiful girl teasing or solo-masturbation, but knowing that also hottest and hardest anal-fucking is on dvd (for the case I need it).
So, I think, it is mainly logistic problem only.
Sir Noel Plum
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2/03
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:00PM
This reminds me a bit of what I often read regarding computer and video games.
The more esoteric, harder to quantify, things such as intensity and 'heat' cannot be judged easily from a boxcover but only from investigation by reading reviews and actually finding out about your intended purchase. I'm sure most people here do all these things but I'm equally sure the average person looks at the box and makes a decision on what he sees and reads. I know if I see two editions of a film series and one shows a double anal and the other doesn't I'd go for the double anal one. Same with video games, too many people buy on the title alone which accounts for the vast oceans of crappy releases.

The fact is, the market is large enough to account for all tastes and if you don't want double anal you are hardly starved of new material.
On the general point, it is certainly true that absence makes the heart grow fonder. I like a lot of this choking, fisting, double everything rough porn and yet at other times I'm crazy for dreamgirls wet t-shirt stuff and on another day I hanker for something amateur and spontaneous when I just don't know what I will see.
I reckon if you've gone off double anal it just means that you've had too much beef and not enough veg - redress the balance for a while and your interest will return.

Sir Noel.

Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 2/28/2003 2:02:52 PM

Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 2/28/2003 2:03:45 PM

Maximum Booty
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New Orleans
347 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:26PM
no you miss my point. I don't have a problem with double anal or double pussy nor have I gone off watching it...given a few performers who look like they are enjoying those acts, I love it...I just don't want to see it if it feels like okay now its time to move into double anal for a few minutes and then pull out and blow your money shot on her face. Then who is up for coffee? ...I just want to see performers who are into what they are doing and who they are doing and not sexual rote...

Max Booty
As evil plans go, it doesn't suck.

 
picman
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1/03
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:42PM
This thread is similar in a way to the one a few weaks ago about how long it takes before you get tired of a performer. The novelty of double anal or double anything is over. It's become too commonplace, the performers don't get excited about it, and now the viewers need a new circus act. The first time I saw a double anything was in The Devil In Miss Jones. It was the most exciting 2 minutes of film I had ever seen. The first double vag I saw was Terri Hall in Honeypie. Hot as hell. But now all these things are ho-hum. I've been looking at tapes from a few years ago, watching scenes Tiffany Mynx made for Tom Byron and seeing real eroticism. Hardcore acts made with joy. That's what I'd like to see more of today, and I think a lot of people feel that way.
Sir Noel Plum
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1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 2:47PM
I understand what you say, but take a step backwards and 90% of what you see is sexual rote.


This enjoyment thing is very difficult to quantify as well. I can't believe many porn starlets say to their producer 'oh, would it be possible to do double anal,no I don't want any more money I just really enjoy it'. If you're relying on enjoyment you're not going to see much double anal.

I stand by what I say in that you're viewing needs have simply cycled to where the atmosphere on-screen is more important than the act. What I am saying is that a time will likely come when it goes full circle again and you'll watch a double anal performed clearly for money and nothing else.

I agree that maybe there is more circus porn now than a few years ago and the prevalence of double anal is an aspect of this. Personally, I enjoy it in as much as I waver as to whether I want the performers to enjoy what they're doing or to be enduring it for the money; both are kind of fascinating in their own way.

RonK All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 4:39PM
Given that the topic is double anal, I sort of have to jump in this conversation. I am the big double anal fan after all and have a reputation to uphold. I do agree that some directors shoot a double anal scene just to have a double anal scene, and it is not sufficiently intense for the taste of some viewers, but that lackluster type of directing is easily rectified.

We can have some mostly double anal titles that are super intense with lengthy double anals and the guys and gal liking every minute. That will be my choice (given the babes are cute).

We can have intense scenes with or without anal and others might prefer such scenes.

Having different releases for different taste will suit me fine. If there are 7 all-double anal titles every month and all other titles do not include a single double anal scene, then I will buy all 7 double anal titles, and I may buy a few of the non-double anal titles. In the process I will save a bundle by not buying junk. Others will buy the intense releases without double anal and be happy with their purchases. That way we all come out winners. Now if only the producers will cooperate and produce such titles.

Ron, Big Double Anal fan

bjs
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NC
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Posted - Feb 28 2003 : 5:16PM
I consider myself "jaded" as it has been defined in this thread. However put me down as one who is strongly against double anal. Something about seeing those dicks rubbing together. I just don't get the appeal myself, and would much rather see good chemisty than circus acts.
shameless
Deactivated User

Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Mar 2 2003 : 7:26AM
Mmhh 28 to 42 double anal titles per month...if I honest I would like some more, maybe an all dap-tape every 2nd day. And as many non-dap tapes as possible. Just to be sure to get sufficent supply, even I might not watch it all.
And than as much other non-dap tapes as possible (many of whom I will try to watch of course, too)

But basically I still think my proposition of well chapture structured dvds with dap on EVERY girl is better.
Some girls will be inti it and it will be very intense, some dap will be mechanic and although I might not watch it, somebody else may enjoy it and yet anither person will just jump to the next chapter. Dvd-chapters give just so many possiblities...




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