Whats the big deal its a seymore butts ad, with a girl (mariposa?) with butterfly wings. Where is the "questionable taste?" Maybe I'm looking at the "old" AVN.
Can't find a link... basically it's an ad for the new company "Vertigo".
Basically, Gia Paloma (the new blonde version) is passed out (o.d.?) on a table next to what looks like three lines of coke. The rest of the table is strewn with the new releases from Vertigo, "Dope" spelled out in big letters in (probably fake) cocaine, with pills everywhere, etc.
Obviously, this is a tongue-in-cheek response to a recent "incident" in Gia's life: AVN Article
Also, the ad says, "Free posters available for stores." Yeah, that's what I want in my store to shill some porn of questionable quality, G.P. re-enacting her cocaine overdose.
I don't really care, it's just so rare that something in porn bothers me... I would rather see Gia doing the new 300 Guy Anal Creampie from Devil's... meh.
I was reading the article and was prepared to post something like "Well, at least she learned her lesson" (heavy sarcasm). But, at the end of the article, she said that she was done with experimenting. Let's hope she is, as well as the other girls who are "using".
Do hollywood movies bother you? Then why should porn bother you? Its the same thing. Porn is a FANTASY. Just like every other movie you see on television. Even "reality" tv is staged.
Yes this poster is for shock value, and most people would be shocked by it, but its still staged. The only thing real in porn was when that guy stabbed the girl on his set.
Yeah, me too! I thought it was hysterical. But, I don't have the most tasteful sense of humor.
From what I was told by the owners of the company, the ad was simply a way for them to thumb their noses at all of the attention the incident received.
The guys at Vertigo are a great lot, and would never intentionally hurt anyone. I know they care for Gia very much.
The best way for her to get past is to take it head on like this. I think the ad was smart for Gia and Vertigo. The purpose of advertising is to get people talking; and look what we're doing. Job well done.
Damn, she's cute. Gia makes me glad to be alive, and male. I like the ad and take it in the spirit it was intended. It also shows Gia has a great attitude.
... And when four people got HIV ... and when a countless number of girls experienced what RLD thinks is funny: "O ring blowout," etc etc etc ... When I was a young, snotty punk rocker I would have thought this ad was hilarious. Now I think it's stoopid as hell. But then that's the image the New Pornographer is trying to cultivate, right? All these white-boy gangsta wannabes, who are most likely to end up where Skeeter started ... cleaning pools.
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But both of those things are things you need to expect to happen in this business. "I very well may contract the HIV virus, or another STD." "I very well may work so much I blow out my asshole and/or have that fact exploited by someone."
However, you don't expect to go on a set to do a scene and say "Hmm I very well may get stabbed to death today when the director doesn't pay me what he said he would."
Which white-boy gangsta wannabes are you referring to? And of those ones which ones are you thinking are going to end up cleaning pools? Why anyone would end up cleaning pools after a porn career is beyond me.. drug abuser, streetworker, petty theft criminal maybe, but pool cleaner?? To me it just seemed like you were taking a cheap shot at Skeeter Kerkove. Granted, I've never met the guy, and he seems to absolutely LOVE what he does, so why does it really matter if he was cleaning pools before he started making porn? It's a step up if you ask me, and that's the key to life is getting further ahead, right? I'm sure some of your past jobs weren't so "high-class" either. Before I got into I was being taken advantage of creating mainstream websites. What were you doing before porn?
The fantasy thing was about the "poster." And the fantasy was for the fan or "end-user." This thread was never about what the talent thinks about the poster.
The asshole blowing out thing is in response to "what is real in porn" or the non-fantasy side of things, the things the fans don't watch and masturbate to (unless they're super jaded)
Too late.
And while It's on my mind, the only truly "REAL" porn you'll ever see is one that can't buy. A porn that someone makes because they were not looking to profit off of it, or get into the industry, or get a deal, or whatever. Just people fucking for the pure pleasure of it, and it so happened to get "caught on tape," so to speak.
But yes, the ad is funny. Drugs are funny, porn is funny and ridiculous. I was just talking to a certain beautiful dirty slut about how there are self-righteous porn viewers on this board.
And THAT, my friend, is the REAL FUCKING SHAME. YOU, who is married to one of the most incredible purveyors of the 'fantasy of sex' to ever grace the industry -- you know what's missing, don't you? Of course you do.
WOW...just people fucking for the PLEASURE of it. Whatta fuckin' concept. Tender and sweet or rough and ready or some combination thereof. REAL sex.
Of course it can offer more than that, but porn has always been "funny and ridiculous" to me. It doesn't mean that I don't love it or respect it and care about it. My whole life, watching porn has been funny. There is the good stuff (Classics; not just the time frame, but real classics) and then sooo much bad right next to it, and right next to that. Plots are stupid, there was always to much garbage, bad acting, retarded situations (I've never understood the nurse or cheerleader thing--the nurses I've seen are very sweet and caring, but not physically attractive--and I've never liked cheerleaders, even when I came to America and went to High School here) The internet is weird and truthfully (to much information alert) I have to take a crap :] Bye for now.
skeeter did pools huh? well thats just one more thing he and I have in common since I had a route for 7 years. we both did pools, we both live in Tujunga, and we're both porn/XXX derelicts, (well at least I'm a derelict). I LOVE IT!!!! lates, Von S.
The only thing real in porn was when that guy stabbed the girl on his set.
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At age 18, I received my L.A. County Health license in water purification and sanitzation, I was cleaning pools, after all I was 18 years old. At age 19, I opened up my own pool and spa business, Caroles Pool and Spa supplies a wholesale and retail outlet. At age 20, I bought a brand new home at 6277 Blanchard Cyn. Rd in Tujunga, Ca 91042, I put 25 percent down, it was a bran new home. At age 21, I bought 7108, 7106 Foothill Blvd. Tujunga, California 91042, a warehouse and apartment. 7 years later I paid off my commercial property in full, that I had purchased for 190 thousand. The property is now worth over 1 million dollars. Mike Quasar has been to my commercial property and my pool store, that my Mommy runs for me. So how can the pool service be a bad thing! I made 260 thousand dollars at Metro in 2004, how on earth David is the pool business a bad thing. I have produced over 160 movies since April 2002. I have never, ever asked for a job, the companies always, I mean always come to me! My net worth is over 2 million dollars, who are you to put me down. You are the one who is always broke. I owe 4 hundred thousand on my million dollar home, that overlooks the entire San Fernando Valley, my house payment is 2,100 per month. I make 6 thousand per month, renting out my own home for my own movies. My 80 thousand dollatr Vanden Plas 2005 Jaguar has a balance of Zero! One of my websites, nets more money in 60 days, then you earn in a year! I film exactly what turns me on! My movies are my entire life. Remember my Clusterfuck box cover? Yours looked like mine 4 months later! I met you once, you complained about not having enough money! Bummer, my complaint is this, what should I do with all of the money I earn. Between Bridgette and I, we will cast, produce and direct 13 movies in April 2005. I will also be shooting camera 5 days of April for Otto Bauer. The bottom line in this business to every owner of a company is numbers!!! The Kerkoves always take care of that! Everything we do is a total profit for everybody we work for. Extend me the courtesy, by never typing my name again and I will extend you the same courtesy. Tim Vonswine rules all! Tujunga Forever baby! To quote the greatest pornographer of all time: Nobody, produces, directs and runs a set more efficently then Multi Award Winner Bridgette Kerkove. Every female and male performer who works for Bridgette, will tell you, there is no wasted time on her set. Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn
Skeeter, you are an inspiration. If your dumb ass is worth two million, I'm not trying hard enough.
Who said something about real sex? My drunk ass? I meant something about any old meat puppets can stick tab a in slot b and somebody films it and sure, it's sex, but come on, does that make it REAL SEX? No. Does beating and berating make it real? Guess that depends on the viewer. I like to see a women get so turned on she'll BEG you to do ANYTHING you fuckin' WANT to her, rather than be forced into it, but I know how much work that is, and porn don't shoot itself, does it? Yee-ha!
You know, I'm going to hate for the one thing I learned from all this "yammer yammer yammer" on ADT to be one thing: It's Just Porn. Just copy and paste that shit and let's all shut the fuck up. Obviously, some of us should be working .
Maybe it is because English is not my mother tongue. But I read this statement quite as sort of a compliment.
"See, people like Mr/s. Example, began their career from the bottom, from ground zero, worked hard and they achieved, deserved and earned what they have got. Nowadays some people start at high ground, but at the end of the day/career - when the hype is over - there will be nothing left except hot air and they will finish where the Mr/s. Example began."
If pornographer A makes a statement about pornographer B that is less than unequivically complimentary about pornographer B, pornographer B will automatically interpret said statement in the worst possible light and respond with his own statement about pornographer A that is unequivically negative.
Well, Zartyr, your grasp of English is better than most of those here, because you put your finger on what was exactly my point.
I don't diss you for where you come from, Skeeter. We met FAR more than once; you called me crying that your feelings were hurt when I complained at last Spring's open meeting how everyone in the business was obsessed with anal. I told you I thought that you did it with style & were legitimately into it, so that was a bit different. What you didn't tell me is that you were not observing the moratorium & continuing to film anal scenes at your house using talent that was in fact 3rd-generation exposures.
I have no idea what your CLUSTERFUCK cover looked like. Did you do it, or some art director? I happen to shoot, edit and score all my own movies, and since being distributed by Madness do the covers as well. I full well realize that this is one of the reasons I don't make the money you do, but outside of some perverse desire to be a secondary character in an Elmore Leonard novel, why would I want to be you, anyway?
Chance are good that anyone who bought and help real estate in the last 10 years has a net worth disproportionately high in comparrison to their professional accomplishments. This does not mean that Skeeter is a dumbass.
Immediately before taking my first porn job as an editor for Genesis magazine, I was a line editor for the electronic version of the Wall Street Journal/Dow Jones News Ticker.
To help get through the early years of college, I worked as a department store stockbo & an auto-warehouse parts puller. Which are certainly lesser jobs than pool cleaner. & to go back one step further, during High School I worked during the summers for a moving company; very backbreaking and thankless duty, for sure.
The foreign guy knew what I meant by the pool-cleaner reference, but rather than question your reading comprehension skills in comparison to his, I'll chalk it up to you perhaps feeling emotional because you see me as insulting a way of life and a kind of person that you may or may not embrace.
Cobalt, your a teritary character in a Barry Hannah novel, why would Skeeter mind?
(Jes' kiddin' ya, I know you'd be the No. 1 Badass from Poontang Holler in the next BH epic, a gator-wrasslin', TPTAT-slaying (that's trailer park teenage tramp), shotgun-totin;, beastmaster from the very swamps of moonshine dementia!)