I have never lied, and I defy you to find a place where I did. You, on the other hand, assured me I would never be fired, and we know how valid that was. The truth is you count the AVN award ballots and the truth is that sometimes the results look fishy.

My assessment of the Philadelphia Magazine piece (MY, we have a long memory) was that it was superficial and lame, and that stands.

AVN stole tod-hunter.com from me by fraudulently sending an e-mail in my name telling Network Solutions to transfer ownership to Darren Roberts. I suppose this was my fault for using tod@avn.com as a contact address.

As far as not having the balls... The day I was fired you were hiding somewhere. Tim said you didn't have the heart to face me, but his credibility is suspect. I got an e-mail to call you after my mother died. You took the opportunity to threaten me with Paul Cambria if I revealed any trade secrets, and invoked a non-disclosure agreement that I never signed. We have been in the same place at least twice since then, at the Jim Holliday memorial at the Sportsmen's Lodge and the Deep Throat premiere at Laemmle's Sunset 5. You avoided me on both occasions.

You are a liar and a coward. You have surrounded yourself with sycophants, and dismiss anybody who doesn't kiss your ass as a "bottom feeder."

If you have anything to say to me, confidentially if you'd like, call me. My cell and my home are listed under my real name. My e-mail is no secret: tod@tod-hunter.NET.

Sorry to involve the rest of you people in this.

--t

Edited by - todhunternet on 3/15/2005 8:40:04 PM

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Paul, welcome to the forum.

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So staying out just tends to accomplish nothing if you want people to understand what really happens.

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Vivid is the closest thing to aping the mainstream media, where in the US certainly as well as many other Western countries (Australia, etc) male homosexuuality (bisexuality, whatever) is far from the accepted mainstream, while female lesbianism (bisexuality, whatever) is acceptable because of two main factors or women (on average) being less homophobis then men, and the male titillation of seeing two women together or kissing.

On the other hand, imagine the hating that would have occured if that had been Juston Timberlake and Marshall Mathers playing tonsil-hockey..

or to put it another way, hahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahahah

Thanks Constance, I'm familiar with that picture

scipio

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Edited by - scipio on 3/16/2005 12:26:49 AM

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I know for a fact that you called me several times over the years and asked me if I was sure about a particular vote I had made in a category because it was a tie and if I wanted to change my vote to something I thought was better than my original pick I should log in and do that.

Does AMPAS do this if PriceWaterhouseCoopers adds up the Oscar® ballots and they get a tie in one category? I don't think so...

Edited by - todhunternet on 3/16/2005 5:52:00 AM

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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Edited by - respect on 3/16/2005 12:21:31 PM

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I never post here really but dayum!

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But anyway, let's get back to the fued I mean topic, it's much more interesting.

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astro is right though - men will go to great lengths to avoid the appearance or implication of bisexuality or homosexuality.
Another thing is - when was the last time you heard a guy notice/compliment how another guy looks? Women do this all the time.

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ghostpro.com

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And, just one more thing, if a straight guy says that he is disturbed by the sight of two men showing affection, keep in mind that it's often a cryptic statement. What he might mean to say is that he is disturbed by the fact that he might be aroused at the sight of the two men showing affection.

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If enough people wanted to see male bisexual scenes in movies, the studios would make movies with those scenes.

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My experience is that conversations will wander. Sometimes interesting things come of it.

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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Edited by - skronker on 3/17/2005 11:05:47 AM

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The bottom line... indeed the only line... that matters as far as the production of porn is concerned, is
do guys want to whack-off to male bi-sexual porn?
The answer is obviously NO.

As far as porn is concerned, bi-sexuality is nothing more than a preference of what people want to whack-off to (just like anal, DPs, interracial, scat... you name it).

The greatest porn stud of all-time, Peter North, had a bi-sexual past and no one really cares. Watching Peter unload adds to my enjoyment of every scene he's in... it's even a bit of a turn-on :) But, I have ZERO interest in watching Peter in bi-sexual scenes with other men... and less than ZERO interest in whacking-off to it!

Can't you be happy with GAY porn that caters to what you want? Why don't you lobby the gay studios to add women to their product? You could call that bi-sexual, couldn't you?

People want to whack-off to whatever gives them a stiffie.
As Steve Holmes pointed out, if there was a market for it the studios would (and will) produce it.

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Edited by - respect on 3/17/2005 12:29:14 PM

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FYI, if you put my quote back in context with my post it makes a whole lot more sense and more accurately reflects what I was actually saying :)

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but there's just one more thing i wanna add:

we all came out of a pussy and spent our early days buried in bosom.

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Edited by - respect on 3/17/2005 4:19:43 PM

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Seriously arthur, if bisexual porn was as popular a niche as you seem to think, it'd be selling like hot cakes, and RLD and EA would both have a series dedicated to them. Both studios have at least one dedicated Shemale lines, with guys getting screwed by the Shemales, so there you go.

Just as seriously, you could save yourself a lot of time and effort by just typing your agenda up once in notepad, then you could make up one of those "fill-in-the-blanks" form letters like the ones that MAD Magazine used to do. ..unless that's what you've already done?

scipio

oh, btw arthur...

if you're really just a troll, you've done a fabulous job. kudos.

Edited by - scipio on 3/18/2005 8:17:00 AM

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But you'll find that what sells is what gets made. Whether you personally like it, find it hypocrytical, or not, or whatever. That was exactly my point on the explosion of Shemale titles. They sell well right now, so they get made. It's a business.

These days especially, what sells is what gets made, seen the titles of RLD's catalogue, there's a lot of different specific acts being catered to there, including guys being fucked by chicks with dicks. Regardless of your wacky ideas about the "intellectual mainstream."

Understand?

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funny you should mention falwell, he's a pussycat compared to this full-blown jihad for your personal tastes to be represented in everyone's movies. hey, it's a good time to be bisexual-porn exists that caters to you and you don't have to go back too far to assume anyone publically demanding an increase in sodomy would recieve bad attention like a lobotomy, killed with unsophisticated tools by torch-weilding villagers or worse.

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Straight porn is already bisexual porn - it's got bisexual women in it. Has that fact conveniently escaped your mind? As for genres, I find the idea of genres for sexual orientation a form of segregation. The bi genre is a construct designed to corral male bisexuals into their segregated corners.

Like Communism, the exclusion of male bisexuals from the sexual mainstream has become a self-defeating philosophy. It exposes the hypocrisies and double standards of the straight porn industry. It won't be accepted by the public at large.

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I can't believe y'all are still talking about this.

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It just means that you and logic are not on speaking terms.

Edited by - Bill on 3/18/2005 9:25:03 PM

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Show me where the profit is in bi-sexual titles. There is no history of success there.

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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So if the posters don't agree and say something different, that is inane? Hmmm.

DenverDon <<<<[[[[

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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(sorry, couldn't resist)

Jacco

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