How much do girls in the U.S get paid to do those heavy, heavy scat videos?
Are those videos even legal to shoot and distribute? I know that they are being shot here and distributed overseas. What happens in the event that somebody gets prosecuted for shooting one? Are the performers considered liable in any way along with the producers?
Mind you, I'm not looking to depart from making boy/girl porn, it's just that this whole scat thing really disturbs me, and it leaves me with lots of nagging questions.
How much do girls in the U.S get paid to do those heavy, heavy scat videos?
Maybe out here in the sticks we don't really get this kind of stuff, but what heavy U.S. scat videos even exist? Are there any on DVD or is it underground stuff? I'm not really a fan, I'm just curious...
I see you say they are shot here and exported overseas. So are there porn starlets in the valley or wherever currently taking the brown shower for cash?
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Posted - May 6 2005 : 2:16AM
I dont know about here in US but I think that europeans do this a lot. I think Kami has her own movie something like Kami Poops.
Interestingly shit films are big in China and Japan and the reason given is that there are very limited public facilities for use available, so the smell of excrement has played a huge role in a lot of people's sexual growth. I would also assume that is is tied in with the viewing of particular people using the street as well as the smell to combine into a whole fetish type of sexual obsession.
Scat scenes are considered "obscene" in the US. It is not supposed to be shot here. But *if* they are shooting it here, it will be distributed abroad, and then work it's way back through the internet and customs bypass.
In the sex industry, it's a known fact that those especially interested in brown showers are also the biggest flakes when it comes to actually doing it. My professional kink friends will tell you that the guy who calls asking for scat play is the most likely to not show up for the appointment and won't pay if you try to collect on the retainer fee.
This isn't necessarily a BAD thing, since anyone caught doing it (especially for monetary gain) is going down any way. Let alone the ick and disease factors. . . . But it may show that even those with the compulsion would prefer the fantasy of it on film/tape and prefer not to actually do it. Hence the preference for the scat movies.
I don't know about the shitter, but I do know that one actress who used to go by the name of a mexican food product, was very proud of the fact that she made $1000 a day for "eating doodee." I guess if you have an extremely low ick factor and need the bread, it wouldn't be an unobvious choice. That was over 10 years ago, so I have a feeling the price may have changed. Probably went up, because of all the diseases that you could catch doing it.
Er, believe me, Japan has plenty of public facilities, it's one of the cleanest countries I've been to, so I have to disagree with your logic there. Scat isn't necessarily "big" there, but it is legal, so it's just one of many genres of porn there that some like and many don't. The only difference compared to North America is that in Japan you can openly and easily buy it if you want to.
As far as China, well, probably almost any kind of porn is appreciated there since it's illegal in that country.
No. There's nothing that's considered "obscene" in the entire US. Given the idiocy of the obscenity laws, things that have been determined to be obscene are only obscene in the jurisdiction in which they have been prosecuted.
An obscenity conviction in Ohio would have absolutely no bearing as to whether that same thing is considered obscen in NYC.
I have no idea why anyone would find this to be sexy. But there is absolutely no reason why people shouldn't be able to produce and distribute this material for people who are turned on by it.
While peeing is the fence that borders my perimerter of interest, I occasionally peer over the top to see what the neighbors are up to. Scat is the uppermost strand of barbed wire, that always pokes my fingers.
Some people think eating cow balls is disgusting, or letting a dog kiss them on the mouth. Since we already have enough people trying to legislate morality and taste, I don't think we need even more.
And, you can get sick from doing many things(to preempt an inevitable comeback from somewhere), like eating raw oysters, raw eggs, etc . . .
I'll bet you were half kidding about this ridiculous subject, anyway, and I'm just taking your comments way too seriously, right?
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Posted - May 8 2005 : 12:26PM
Cows have balls? I always thought su2sexi is the only female mammal on the planet earth who has balls?
BSD said: "I wouldn't care if she was my five favorite porn queens morphed into one person, approaching me naked and on her knees with a sopping wet pussy, if there is dentistry involved, I am not happy."
Isn't that the same distorted logic that people who want all porn outlawed use? They don't like it, so it's disgusting for someone else to like it. Therefore, it should be illegal?
The key thing to notice in this sentence is the word "I". As disgusting as I find the whole scat-eating thing myself, apparently some folks are turned on by it. As long they aren't hurting anyone else, they should be free to indulge in their fetish. It is a rather extreme form of recycling though!
Any time you say that you think that it should be illegal to sell movies because they contain something that you don't like (that doesn't hurt anyone), you will get a negative response.
dunno, human waste has some pretty nasty bacteria, protozoa, virii and other nasties. some of the stuff can make you really sick or kill you unlike pee-pee. if it's illegal not to wash your hands before going back to work at a restaurant it's not suprising the government bans actresses from making a poop-bonanza. hell, fecal matter is one of the major ways deadly diseases spread in human populations. that's my rationalization for just thinking it's pretty nasty, but as the great piotr reminds us I make shit in your mother's pussy!bwahaha
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Posted - May 10 2005 : 3:37PM
Who cares what actors/actresses get paid for doo-doo movies? You rent or buy what you would like to see. Apparently there's a market for this stuff, so let people enjoy their freedom.
I'm into anal movies and believe me: i know morons who'd like to see every flick with anal in it banned.
Let freedom ring. Scat/Piss, Male/Female fisting and all that stuff that's beyond my borders should be available to those who are into it.
And as always: if you don't like it, don't watch it. It's *still* that simple.
Sorry I didn't meant to offend anyone, cultshock. I only know what I'm told and that one came from a Japanese anime artist that declares the fetish. Maybe he meant China alone...
You're right Bill. The regs are so screwy that there is no hardline definition of "obscene." That's one of the problems.
But the issue of scat in film has been ruled on as obscene in a court of law, (as has fisting) and it will come up in any case as a precident, and that's why it's on the producers list of "avoid" themes. That's why most producers here avoid distributing it in the US. The retailers are wary of carrying it.
For some people it does. I've worked in a dungeon in the past and you see all kinds of kinks and fetishes. It's the only way they can get off. Some guy offered me money to shit on him one time. I didn't do it, it's not something I want to be involved with.
I'm not really into to scat movies I think they're a little too hard core and disgusting, I don't want to watch people eating shit or being covered in it, are there any movies of people shitting right before they fuck? I don't want them to play with the poop, just watch them poop and then immediately watch them engaged in anal sex? Are there any movies where the girls don't clean their assholes before anal sex?
Here's my stance. I wouldn't mind seeing a pooping video. But I hate hate hate the term scat. I'd just once like to see it in mainstream adult movies, say, from RLD, but just a girl letting a poop accidentally slip out and acting shocked. It should be a nice log. That would be as far as I'd like to see it go. No eating and, oh no, never never in any ones face.
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Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 8:24PM
I've read this topic with interest and chased down a couple of the links for previews. I'm not sure I get it though. Everyone is talking about "the shit". For me, if there is any excitement, it is the girl's asshole as it stretches and puckers to allow the emergence of the turd. It's almost like you're watching anal penetration without the cock in the way. So, the turds need to be hard and large around. It is a more open view of the asshole than can be seen during anal sex. Oh well, my two cents worth of dirty thoughts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Don't piss down my neck an' then tell me it's rainin'."
For the ones interested into the matter, I was watching Rough & Beyond Creamfiller recently. At the end of scene 5 involving a blonde girl who gets pounded in the ass, the guy cums into her ass. There is not too much sperm. But when she cumfarts again in a bowl, she lets a lot of cum get out (so sperm is probably fake there) & a poop accidentally slip out too. Then the guy pours sperm all over her face and body... It's unusual, to say the least.
This may be an old post but it's interesting. Because if we were going to say we should ban scat because of this, I guess we'd have to ban all anal play. Rimming a "clean" asshole isn't really that much safer than full on scat. Because those germs and so forth are invisible and the anus and intestines is where they dwell. You're not going to get rid of all of them even with the most thorough enema (and it would be bad for the health of the recipient of the enema even if you could). So. Rimming, ass to mouth or even sticking a finger up a girl's ass and not washing it until after you finish fucking is at least "dirty" enough to expose you to most of the same nasties. Just because you don't see shit doesn't mean it's squeaky clean. The main objection people have to scat is the ick factor and that "it's just so nasty it simply must be lethal, right?". The fact is that it can be dangerous and people have gotten sick but there are many people who have done it frequently with no apparent ill effects. It's illegal (or I think it is) to not wash your hands after doing your business if you work at a restaurant because the customers who come in are not expecting to be consuming your excrement. I would imagine they would have the same objections to you going to the bathroom, masturbating and going back to work without washing your hands. When you talk about scat sex and scat porn, you're generally talking about consensual sex. It would be pretty hard for the bottom to miss the fact that they have shit on them. Scat is a form of edge play. I think only a small number of people really are into it. It can be risky. Certain diseases can be passed between the partners. Generally, they know the risks. If they aren't intelligent enough to find out what the risks are before they do it, they shouldn't be having sex at all.
Scat should be 100 percent legal. Personally I'm not a big fan of the hardcore scat videos but accidentally messy anal or dirty assholes are great. Still waiting for a no enema anal flick.
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Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 8:41AM
Concensual and concensual. Many things that is concensual is still forbidden. Like smoking weed. To eat scat is actually more dangerous than smoking weed but still the smoking is the thing that is outlawed. So the laws doesn´t always go after what is dangerous or not, they just go after what moves around in the politicians heads. If one shall talk about dangerous things then all contact between the mouth and things that have been in the anus and intestines of another person can be potentially lethal. So if one shall outlaw scatmovies and other movies with rimming, enema swallowing, cumfarts and similar it will be of that reason, that it is quite dangerous. And that all people who tried it didn´t get sick is no argument to not ban such things. In the age of pestilence there were also some people who were immune to the bacteria Yersinia pestilence. Still I wouldn´t recommend anyone to handle plauge infected material. Today gut bacteria is one of the greatest killers of them all, globally speaking, many more people die in illnesses that comes from exposure to gut bacteria than in AIDS or malaria. So to ingest gut bacteria (and other bugs living in the gut) cannot be regarded as healthy or safe. Edited by - artifacti on 8/28/2008 9:08:10 AM Edited by - artifacti on 8/28/2008 9:09:18 AM
Yeah.. I find people fucking discusting.. lets forbit the whole thing... Cmon! The writer of the above forgets that some people find people of the same sex kissing or making love disturbing. What would you think if your favorite rimming or Ass to mouth movies were forbidden.. just because someone finds it disturbing. If you find something disturbing... don't watch it.... but don't forbit it. When people start forbidding other people to see or do things just because they find it disturbing liberty is over. I would like to refer to the obscenety case against Evil Angel, because milk was used in a manner other people didn't like. EVil Angel case The moral of the story: If people wanna tape dumping bodely fluids on other people an both sides agree.. let them do so! The people talking about forbidding things should read that story.
thats such a horrible attitude..IF...if you truly meant it the idea that....I dont like it so people should should be arrested and go to jail...is so wrong that I'd like to make it illegal for people to even express such disgusting thoughts! *wink*
If I may interject: someone mentioned that "...gut bacteria is one of the greatest killers of them all, globally speaking...". True, but the crux is that those fatalities occur mostly in poor countries with small children alr5eady weakened by hunger or other causes. I.e. a standard diarrhea that we in the developed countries get away with a few visits in the head (=toilet) might easily be fatal to a young African. Another thing is that many of us might get sick by simply drinking water in some countries and the same water could be just fine for the locals. I have heard that one effective safeguard for anyone involving in scat OR analingus activities is hepathisis vaccination.