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ObiBong
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Posted - Mar 13 2007 : 9:23PM
I don't expect any threads I start to make it.

Just out of curiosity, why limit it to views by logged-in members, instead of all views?

Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 13 2007 : 10:24PM
It's because of the data that I'm using. I only keep track of which threads are read by which users in order to properly generate various things in the forum. I don't record this data for guests or members that aren't logged in. (It would be difficult if not impossible to do so.)

It's not really based on views. It's based on the number of members that read a thread in the past 48 hours. A single member could read a thread many times during that period but it only counts as 1 user in the query that generates the table. Think of it as the top 50 threads that have the widest readership, not necessarily the most frequently read.

I do intend on adding the yellow/purple folders (red dots too) to the list of topics too. Just didn't have time to get around to that today.

Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 13 2007 : 10:29PM
Another way to phrase the popularity ranking mechanism is that the ones at the top of the list have been read by more members than those at the bottom (and those that didn't make the cut).
ObiBong
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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 1:42AM
I have a feeling the results may be kind of disconcerting.

It never occurred to me before that the number under the "read" column on the regular forum pages was just logged-in members, but I guess that must be true too.

Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 6:20AM
No, the number of views is all people that have read it, members or non-members. That number is unrelated to the popular topics. The number of views is just a counter that increments by one each time a topic is read. No time stamp data is included with it so I can't tell if 1000 views happened in the last 15 minutes or 15 years. I figured if I used the number of views for a popularity rank then very old threads would dominate the list.

Another thing about the number of views is that it is filtered to only record one view of a thread every 15 minutes per user unlike most other forum software (unless a new post is made within the 15 minutes) . Most other forums record one read every time a user refreshes the page. We also don't record views from search engine bots so our number of views of a thread is a very realistic representation of the actual number of views and not just people refreshing to see if there's new posts in a topic.

The data used for the number of reads is derived from a different set of data. I keep track of which forum users read which threads with a timestamp by user id. (The timestamp is not counted when a user clicks the 'mark all topics read' link. It's only actual reads.) This data is used to properly generate the yellow/blue folders and redirect a user to the posts that they haven't read yet when they open a new topic. I don't keep this info for guests because they have a randomly generated, temporary internal user id that expires at the end of their session. A single person/guest would be recorded as multiple users.

I kinda like the info because we actually see what members are reading. These are the people that participate and contribute to the community. I think using this data is a more accurate representation of what's of interest. It's not watered down by search engine referrals or traffic from blogs which could significantly skew the results at times.

Why do you feel the results are disconcerting? Are you not reading the popular threads? I find that I only have read 3 - 5 threads that are on that list.

Edited by - Drew Black on 3/14/2007 6:21:16 AM

 
Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 15 2007 : 3:59PM
The popular topics page should be more useful now.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Mar 16 2007 : 9:01AM
genius.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Mar 16 2007 : 9:03AM
i just discovered this (i'm slow) and i'm surprised that one of my threads is there. because it's a stupid one. i will have to check this all of the time to see when i become popular.
Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 16 2007 : 10:19AM
I find the popular topics thing interesting because I didn't know where people spent most of their time in the forum. I assumed the list would be dominated by WN&N. I don't read much of what gets posted here so I'm curious about what does get read even though most of the content of the popular threads is of no interest to me.
Drew Black
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Posted - Mar 7 2012 : 10:59AM
As part of the new forum navigation changes I foundthis page recently. I haven't looked at it in many years.
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Oblivious

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Posted - Mar 8 2012 : 1:45AM
^ That's a great page.



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