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GERONIMO3000
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Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 12:39AM
IR is probably one of the most popular (if not the most popular) porn categories. Given that fact, isn't it safe to assume that IR is now a great, career-boosting option for starlets and stars alike?
The funny thing is that IR used to be considered a "career-killer" (esp by girls and porn store owners from the South) in the 80s and early 90s. Now it's a career-maker. Look at how Jewel DeNyle's career took off several years ago. Now look at Lisa Ann's career and some of the other veterans who came back e.g. Julia Ann. Look at the pro-am IR stars (e.g. Janet Mason) that crossed over. And those are just the MILFs. So many of today's top stars (e.g. Shyla Stylez, Tori Black, Sasha Grey, Bree Olson, Hillary Scott, Jenna Haze etc) do IR regularly and some even became popular on the back of their IR scenes. Beyond the top stars, there are gonzo IR specialists like Sara Jay, Flower Tucci, Trina Michaels, and Kelly Divine, all of whom are fan favorites. Then there are IR fetish queens like Barbi Cummings and pro-am queens like Erin Daye, Raven, Susan Reno etc.
Nowadays, the newbies/starlets (e.g. Andi Anderson, Tara Lynn Fox, Crista Moore) take to IR like a duck to water. That's reflective of a generational/cultural shift and it's a great thing. Of course, you still get veterans (e.g. Carmella Bing) and newbies that don't want to do IR (for personal reasons or dodging/racist reasons) but I think they're in the minority. Bottom line: If you consider the girls that don't do IR versus the girls that do IR, I think the pro-IR girls are generally more popular and successful.
What do you guys think? Agree/disagree?
raybbaby
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12/09
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 1:34AM
I think the "MILF" niche is simply the most popular of all the different genres out there. I don't believe IR has much to do with it, but I really don't pay much attention to that kinda thing. The quickest growing "niche market" is tranny porn. Just wait another ten years and that won't be a career killer either.
boogieknight
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146 Posts
3/07
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 1:54AM
IR sex scenes no longer kill your career. However Dwarves and Hobbits can.
I've had sex with some beautiful women and some not so beautiful. But I had a girl tell me she's only doing it with me because her father doesn't want her dating black guys. I wasn't down with that. She could ruin my career!
Vergel
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Posted - Jan 9 2011 : 1:24PM
LOL
pornlaw
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 12:46PM
Not to bust anyone's bubble but IR is pretty much dieing off at this point.
Fewer and fewer IR companies are surviving and they are shooting a lot less than 3 yrs ago.
One of the biggest and best known IR companies has cut way back on production in 2011.
The party for IR isnt over but it will return to its pre-glory days.
 
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 1:50PM
I don't think that IR is a great career-boosting option, nor do I think that any other niche market is a great career-boosting option, for a performer. If you look at your list of performers who have supposedly become popular due to their IR scenes what you have is a list of well rounded performers who's resume encompasses a wide range of work. I don't think that you can point to a specific niche and say that is what made them popular. I think it is the performer, her entire past work and her ability to work under a wide range of conditions that has made her popular with a wide variety of fans.
What niches are popular come and go over time. A good performer can stay on top no matter what niche is popular at any given time.
Ramsey
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 2:17PM
I hate to say it but pornlaw is right. Companies like Evasive Angeles and West Coast Productions aren't releasing a lot of good new movies these days. Mostly comps and shit like that. But I got years of IR porn in my DVD backlog so for now I'm cool.
Young Herschel
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 6:11PM
I will admit that it has slowed down some from 2007 and 2008 but that is due in part to economic success of iconic television parodies, which are taking up a significant part of the marketplace as everyone tries to get their piece of the pie before its all gone. I would hope that with new opportunities like Mr. Marcus's directorial debut with Vivid, Josh Stone's sophisticated theatrical presentations at Justin Slayer International and of course my boys over at West Coast Productions/AfterDark Pictures, James A and Bishop, that we, as an IR audience, will enjoy "quality over quantity" when it comes to IR releases in 2011 and beyond.
pornlaw
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578 Posts
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 8:28PM
That might be true. There's only 2 ways to make money now... either cheap comps that dont cost anything or huge budget features that can get you licensing deals as well. DVD sales arent strong enough for mid-range $ porn to be profitable which is what category IR has traditionally fallen into.
But if the licensing deals arent there for high end IR (which I dont think they will be) you will see that fail as well. Niche product usually doesnt get licensing $....
Solar4
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 11:03PM
I'm sure some would like to believe that for their own personal reasons.
The fact however, is that a number of women have done quite well and gained a great deal of recognition from doing Black/White scenes.
And the fact that women such as Asa Akira, Tori Black, Bree Olson, Gianna Michaels, Jenna Haze, Jenna Presley, and Sasha Grey, who's one of the most famous women from the industry in the mainstream today, have gotten more famous as they've done Black/white scenes should be proof enough that such scenes enhance a woman's career and expand her fanbase.
Production of all movies, regardless of the genre, in the industry in general has slowed down. However as the economy picks back up production will return to pre-recession levels.
Edited by - Solar4 on 1/10/2011 11:07:55 PM
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 11:42PM
Glad to see that you skipped over all the rest of what I said. It holds true for that entire list of actresses, most of which you mentioned before. But go ahead and believe what you choose. Kudos.
Draxxx
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 11:59PM
I think doing IR might increase a girl's fanbase but it doesn't always directly translate into boosting a performer's career (although it might prolong it). Jenna J. and Tera P. were some of porn's biggest stars without IR. I really don't think Tori Black's porn status would've been any less if she didn't do IR. I'm betting Alexis Texas has a big black audience following even though she never does IR.
But then again...Sara Jay, Raven Black and Trina Michael's career is mostly made from IR.
Young Herschel
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Posted - Jan 11 2011 : 6:50PM
^ I have to respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree with you here. An undeniable element of Tori Black's popularity stems from the fact that she is so naturally beautiful that her personality shines through in her performances, regardless of the nationality of her co-stars, case-in-point ~ Prince Yahsua.
In every scene I have watched of then together, Tori puts forth an intensely compelling thesbian performance, one in which other white women may merely go through the motions. Such chemistry is truely rare in IR porn, or any genre of porn for that matter. Even casual porn fans can easily become enraptured by Tori Black's film presence in hot scenes like West Coast Productions' "Black Teen Punishment" and Black Ice's "Little White Chicks, Black Night Sticks #2"
Now as for Alexis Texas, she had her share of Black fans in 2007 and 2008 to be sure. She craftily marketed herslef to that specific demographic gaining covergirl shots on multiple IR titles in those two year respectivey. Like many IR fans, I also faithfully awaited Alexis Texas's IR debut during that timeframe, but alas it never came :-( What I had naively believed to be a targeted PR campaign in an attempt to build consumer demand into a frenzy for a future IR release under Vouyer Media,Evil Angel or Elegant Angel was instead left to the imagination as to have been a sadistic expression of "taunting"? In the previous calender year there has been no great outcry for an Alexis Texas IR release from savvy and mature IR fans; only newbies still hold out lingering hope. Whereas Tori Black took to her IR fanbase from her very first year in the game, doing award-worthy scenes with several promenent Afro-American adult actors, Alexis Texas seemingly only wanted to tease and taunt us with a plethora IR cover shots in movies where she neglected to have sex with Black men at all; once even going so far as to prefer a black dildo in a Brian Pumper release while all her fellow white co-stars in that very film took Black dick :-(
Edited by - Young Herschel on 1/11/2011 6:51:21 PM
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