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| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 |  Posted - Nov 29 2014 : 7:24PM(From Wikipedia:) Canon (fiction): the conceptual material accepted as "official" in a fictional universe's fan base Western canon: the books, music, and art that have been the most influential in shaping Western culture Canon (basic principle): a rule or a body of rules or principles generally established as valid and fundamental in a field of art or philosophy I think it's about time we, as porn consumers and porn aficionados, try to establish a porn canon. I'm not talking about another "which is the hottest porn star at the moment?" discussion, I'm talking about porn history, the evolution of the art of porn. Who are the most brilliant, important and influential directors? Which are the best and most groundbreaking porn flicks? Let's discuss that. I have some suggestions: for the 90's, I think John Stagliano, Pierre Woodman and John Leslie are the greatest directors. For the 00's, I think Jules Jordan, Christoph Clark, Jonni Darko and Michael Stefano are the greatest. For the 10's, I'm not really sure, maybe William H. Nutsack and Mason. What do you think? [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Nov 29 2014 : 7:49PM Anthony Spinelli Robert McCallum Bob Chinn [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 2:18AM Edited by - af369 on 11/30/2014 2:19:10 AM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 8:30AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 9:28AM EASY (1978) SEXWORLD (1978) TALK DIRTY TO ME (1980) NOTHING TO HIDE (1981) THE DANCERS (1981) McCallum: 3 AM (1975) V: THE HOT ONE (1978) THE ECSTASY GIRLS (1979) - this is my favourite porn film. HOT RACKETS (1979) GARAGE GIRLS (1980) AMANDA BY NIGHT (1981) Chinn: THE JADE PUSSYCAT (1977) CANDY STRIPERS (1978) PIZZA GIRLS (1979) [Link] |
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| wcw43921 Senior Member Look Into My Eyes-- 1252 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 12:34PM ___________________________________________________________________________ "There he goes talking about that Hypnosis thing again." [Link] |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 12:40PM Bruce Seeven Rex Borski [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 1:03PM [Link] |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 1:48PM So the canon can only be recognized after the work has inspired other works. The incest and older-woman-younger-man tropes have lasted, so Taboo would be a canonical work. There might also be some works that are canonical by my definition, but which some in this thread would hate. For instance, some of the low budget stuff that was done early in the video era, like the first video about picking up girls and fucking them in a car, might in fact be canonical. I'm not a big Evil Angel fan, but some of Stagliano's early gonzo works might be canonical. I remember really liking "Inside Seka", but I would imagine that it was imitating another earlier Star Showcase. Edited by - cumminglinguist on 11/30/2014 1:49:52 PM [Link] |
| T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 6:45PM He has also directed an amazing bunch of other soft core and hard core flicks. So add Joe Sarno to the list. ---B{}ne--- [Link] |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 7:26PM For non-kink porn Roy Karch qualifies just for prolifically directing for over three decades (it helps that he was actually talented as a director). John Leslie also was an excellent long-term director. I have to agree with the commenter that cites John Stagliano as he created the gonzo genre. [Link] |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Nov 30 2014 : 10:11PM Given what you said, I would consider his star showcases as a whole canonical. [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 1 2014 : 5:38AM It is interesting, this whole artist vs body of work question, but I agree - a director can not, as a person, be canonical, however his or her work(s) can be. For example, I don't think John Stagliano's late works are that important (this whole "Stretch class" series - couldn't care less), but "Adventures of Buttman" is (as is "Buttman's Big Butt Euro Babes", to pick his perhaps most accomplished euro-anal flick of the 90's stuff). [Link] |
| matrixxx Member IR&DP collector 527 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Dec 1 2014 : 8:09AM 1. Mario Salieri 2. Pierre Woodman 3. Marc Dorcel 4. Jules Jordan 5. John Leslie 6. John Stagliano 7. Jonni Darko 8. Rex Borski 9. Michael Ninn 10. Gregory Dark [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 1 2014 : 4:59PM [Link] |
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| matrixxx Member IR&DP collector 527 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Dec 1 2014 : 5:46PM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 1 2014 : 7:04PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 6:12AM Alex De Renzy was the best director of comedies in porn. After that although he made only a few films I'd pick Armand Weston. Radley Metzger and Damiano obviously. Cecil Howard still isn't appreciated to the degree he should be because so many of his films are hard to find although they are starting to appear on VOD but if anyone deserves a blu-ray release, he does. The madmen of porn Zebedy Colt and Shaun Costello. Lots of gems out there too by Michael Zen, Bob Chinn and whoever made Anna Obsessed. Late 80s and 90s I don't think much of it stands up well and has already been forgotten. But then there's John Leslie, who towers over pretty much everyone else except for the best of Paul Thomas during this time. Influence wise you can't deny Stagliano and Andrew Blake, very different approaches but equally worshipful of women in their own ways. The early Rocco really changed the tone of porn in the late 90s and 2000s. Joey Silvera's Kink is an early gonzo/vignette masterpiece. He has been one of the most consistently perverse gonzo directors, there's usually always something interesting in one of his videos. Modern-wise William H and Mason have left almost everyone else in their dust but Belladonna and Manuel have left their mark as both performers and directors. Jake Malone's work at Evil Angel was also often very, very good for the rougher stuff. I think work of Eddie Powell, Kimberly Kane, Bobbi Starr and Dana Vespoli will age well and become influential in time. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/2/2014 6:20:32 AM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 7:48AM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 8:19AM I keep thinking: why has nobody ever written a book about this? I have seen lots of books about porn, but almost all of them are written from a sociological point of view, the authors being journalists more interested in society and popular culture than by porn itself. They treat the evolution of porn filmmaking pretty shallow, without proper attention to the historical steps in porn aesthetics - the gonzo revolution, the relationship between European and American porn directors in the 90's and the normalization of anal sex, the POV revolution, etc. I mean, I think it is a fascinating history. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 9:22AM Oh, and I heartily third Cecil Howard. What a fantastic director. The Mitchell Bros. too. [Link] |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5060 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 10:15AM Henri Pachard did a excellent job on the Taboo American Style series. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 11:21AM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 1:26PM [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 9:42PM Here;s my list of best directors of all-time taken from old posting in this thread . Top 10 directors of all time: . Alex DeRenzy/Rex Borsky (classics) . John Stagliano (created gonzo, discovered brazil) . Brad Armstrong (features) . Michael Ninn (eye candy) . Pierre Woodman (euro) . John Leslie . Joey Silvera (kink) . Jim Powers (extreme/weird/funny, Roger Cormon of porn) . T.B (black/IR for WCP) . Anthony Spinelli - Honorable mention: . Gregory Dark (kink/comedy) . Lee G (black/IR) . Warren Evans (classics) . Nic Andrews (eye candy) . Kovi (euro) . Justin Slayer (black/IR) . Andrew Blake (eye candy) . Robert McCallum (classics) . Henri Pachard (classics) - Worst director of all-time: . Paul Thomas [Link] |
| oldboi Deactivated User 205 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 10:02PM [Link] |
| Arbitrager All-Star Member 87 Posts 9/10 | Posted - Dec 2 2014 : 11:10PM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 3 2014 : 4:30AM [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 3 2014 : 4:34AM [Link] |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5060 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Dec 3 2014 : 10:37AM I'd group Alexander in with Bruce Seven. 20 years ago they were shooting porn that resembles the most popular anal theme releases we see today. Here's a few others that crossed my mind. Svetlana/David Frazer-don't know how that arrangement worked, but they are responsible for Bad Girls and a # of other well shot films. There product lacked the edge of some others mentioned here, but it was visually impressive. Paul Norman-had a distinctive dark style (late 80's-90's) Finally, Andrej Lupin has taken over directing the Viv Thomas product. He shoots the sexart.com stuff as well. The guy has talent. [Link] |
| af369 Member 144 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Dec 4 2014 : 9:30AM [Link] |
| A-ten Deactivated User 581 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Dec 4 2014 : 10:05AM Woodman: One of main directors that built Europorn into a powerhouse. His casting videos enhanced that genre. Rocco: Shoots raw porn. Combines Europorn kinkiness and Stagliano's naturalistic, gonzo style. His movies are always great to watch. Henri Pachard: A porn legend. Made some of the most memorable porn classics of all time. Started The Brat series. One of my all time favorites with Jamie Summers. [Link] |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5060 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Dec 4 2014 : 10:33AM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2014 : 2:10PM Pachard was an excellent director, his comedies are terrific, particularly SEXCAPADES. [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Dec 29 2014 : 4:13PM [Link] |
| EroslandIT New Member 2 Posts 11/15 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 12:03PM matrixxx wrote: My TOP 10 directors would be: 1. Mario Salieri 2. Pierre Woodman 3. Marc Dorcel 4. Jules Jordan 5. John Leslie 6. John Stagliano 7. Jonni Darko 8. Rex Borski 9. Michael Ninn 10. Gregory Dark [/quote] [Link] |
| Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 12:38PM Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 11/19/2015 12:39:08 PM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 12:46PM The late Jake Malone is still truly missed. [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 1:13PM [Link] |
| 2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 1:17PM [Link] |
| Lezlover Member 527 Posts 9/12 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 1:39PM Worst director - Otto Bauer. Dis-honorable mentions to Robby D & Jordan Septo. In The Middle - Axel Braun, Will Ryder, Mike Quasar & Jonathan Morgan (sometimes good, sometimes crap) [Link] |
| Assanova Member balls deep 296 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 2:27PM John Leslie needs to be on the list. Stagliano too. [Link] |
| Lezlover Member 527 Posts 9/12 | Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 1:28PM [Link] |
| Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 2:08PM I measure directors on the best sex scenes, maybe that makes me unique in that regard. And Mason, in her era, gets career best (or close to career best) performances from many girls she works with. That is what makes her great to me. [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 2:21PM Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 11/20/2015 2:24:55 PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 2:32PM There are different kinds of porn. When judging the quality of a director, the ability to shoot a sex scene well, though, surely comes near (or at) the top of requirements. [Link] |
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