I am a IR fan and I am black btw. Well if a girl doesn't want to do IR it her choice and I don't worry about it because they aren't paying my bills. The best way to boycott IR dodgers is to not buy there movies that all. These girl had did went to high school and have to do a history report on a famous black person for black history month and did vote for Obama and were sad that Michael Jackson die.
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jni1973 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 5 2010 : 11:45PM
No I'm Black and I think that some of the Brothers on this thread should give it a rest.
At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09
Posted - Feb 6 2010 : 8:21AM
The mental imagery of slavery is probably the main cultural and psycological problem that Americans have with IR relationships, IR scenes in mainstream movies, and IR porn. Your 'field hand' 'slave master's wife' comments were Freudian in nature. When you boil it down, the reason why Eurobabes have less issues with doing IR is because they don't have as much Freudian imagery in their subconscious because of a lack of direct connection with slavery. Put any American no-blacks policy porn ho on the shrink's couch and put her under. Also put a white male anti-IR dude on the couch and put him under. Once they're hypnotized you'll find out all about field hands and slave master's wives... Edited by - ControlFreak on 2/6/2010 8:23:11 AM Edited by - ControlFreak on 2/6/2010 8:24:00 AM
It seems that a lot of girls are putting IR on their cards, but the producers are alseep at the wheel. I know MZ Berlin was practically stalking IR producers in chat rooms trying to get another IR Shoot. Now that's a damn shame. A Sexy woman like her willing and dying to do IR, but yet no one was interesting in booking her. You have girls willing to shoot IR and yet they barely get any attention from IR producers. I bet that most of them are too busy chasing Dodgers to notice the new talent that is passing them by.And once they do notice them, it's usually too late and they have taken IR off of their cards for various reasons. So IR fans end up loosing because of the stupidity and laziness of IR producers.
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Master D Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2010 : 11:46AM
You are right, some of these IR director need to get girl who want to do IR and stop wasting money on the girl who won't do it.
I'm sure this has already been covered elsewhere, but what's the best way for us, as fans, to get in touch with IR directors to let them know who they should be putting in their movies?
Your boyfriend doesn't know about me and your mother 2134 Posts 6/09
Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 1:24AM
^ FYI -- LT, who shoots for Elegant Angel, has a thread here on ADT and he's pretty active on there. Jules Jordan has a forum on his site where you can post to the various directors who shoot for him, including Jenna Haze.
I wonder if by "IR" you specifically mean with a Black man, because technically every scene Mercedes and Tera Patrick have ever done have been interracial (even with each other). And if you don't specifically mean with a Black man then Vicky Vette has also already done interracial because she's worked with Dee.
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noballsbitch Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 10 2010 : 2:09PM
Yes, that's what he specifically means. Hell, even black female porn stars (if you look on IAFD) aren't really doing 'interracial' unless it's a scene with a black guy. Edited by - noballsbitch on 2/10/2010 3:23:28 PM
Because the determinant to use the term is only "those who have sex with black men". Stupid, yes, but there it is. [mod edit: quote removed] Edited by - savoy on 2/10/2010 11:24:16 PM
As ridiculous as this is, it's actually correct. I just looked up India and they have scenes she did with Byron Long and Tony Eveready marked as IR! [mod edit: quote removed] Edited by - savoy on 2/10/2010 11:25:08 PM
Just like Ramon I don't think it is accurate to bring Dee in IR discussions. Dee worked with many girls who aren't open to working with black chicks and do you know why? They don't consider her black. I once asked Stormy about her chances of working with black girls and she didn't consider Dee as black. She worked with her. Even though I personally consider Ramon black I don't think Dee is black.
That's why I was asking for clarity, because if by interracial you automatically mean Black, then I can see why you wouldn't consider Dee as fitting (even though I personally do consider her Black). But if you mean interracial in the technical sense, then a scene with Dee (unless someone considers her White) is an interracial scene for Stormy. She also did a scene with Teanna Kai and Felecia, Jenaveve Jolie and I think one with Alexis Amore too (and of course Kaylani and Mikayla), in the technical sense, all of those were interracial scenes.
To be more specific, I asked Stormy this year if she was open to working with black men and she said No. When I brought up black girls (jada, marie luv and others), she said she will never work with black girls. Then I brought up the fact that she worked with Dee. She was a bit surprised that I was calling Dee black,and now that I'm thinking about it she is right. Dee isn't black. You mentioned earlier that Dee worked with Vicky Vette and for that reason alone, I can say she isn't considered Black. Ms Vette would have never done work with her if she thought that.
See now that's interesting because it implies that she (like a lot of people I would say) associates 'Black' with 'African American'. Because, as you say, she wouldn't work with someone like Jada Fire or Marie Luv, but she would work with Dee and Teanna Kai (and probably Mercedez and Mariah Milano). Meanwhile, if you looked at someone like Jazmine Cashmere, who I think most people (myself included) would consider Black, I don't think Stormy would work with her either despite the fact that Dee & Teanna Kai clearly have darker skin than she does. I consider Dee Black or Afro-Latin in the technical sense. I'm now curious if Stormy might work with someone like Keisha Kane or Chelsea Sinclaire.
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
Are you smoking yet? 252 Posts 12/09
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 5:08PM
Lol how some of you dudes, think that chicks that have sex on camera for money would never do a black man or girl for that matter.
Mariah Milano? Some folks say she looks black but I don't think so. I know she is of sicilian decent and she looks like it...I can see why some might say Hispanic too. When it comes to Dee, I know she might have some black in her however I can see why a non-black person might not notice. When it comes to race or ethnicity, only people of Race X can accurately tell if someone with ambiguous ethinicity belongs to race X. Anybody from race Y can easily be fooled. Priya is dark too even though she isn't black.There's been many times where I did mistake a hispanic for white and a white person will correct me. I've also seen non-blacks mistake a mixed black person for something else when it was obvious to me. In all honesty, how many whites can truly tell Derek Jeter's ethnicity if they weren't told? That one is even tough for a black person.
Don't get me wrong, Stormy is cool to chat with but she is just not open to sex with blacks,whether it is a girl or a boy. Other than that she is very nice.I really wanted her to run this year but too bad she backed down. It would have been an interesting race.
I was using Mariah for the skin colour comparisons. To me she's roughly the same complexion as people like Dee, Mercedes etc. So let me ask you - What do you consider someone like Carmen Luvana and Gina Lynn? To me they're White, or Euro-Latin in the technical sense. I'm ultimately saying that I think you can be both Hispanic and White (just using your example) or Asian and Black or whatever the combination, at the same time in one person.
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
Are you smoking yet? 252 Posts 12/09
Posted - Feb 13 2010 : 8:09PM
The chick was a stripper in Baton Rouge. You ever been there? I'm sure she's had some black dick in her.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 3:40PM
Are you serious? I guess you have never heard of pornstars turned escorts who refuse black clients off camera for thousands per hour. You can ask Memphis Monroe, Audrey Bitoni, Mason Moore and many others about this. They will give you a lesson on that topic. I personally have friends, coworkers and acquaintances who will never fuck a black man under any circumstances. Maybe you need to get out more often. Guys, don't forget to vote for our friends in the freeones contest.
Edited by - Zablon on 2/14/2010 4:02:39 PM
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 8:40PM
I don't know if it is true but it looks like that is one down in that list. No offense to anyone but I think she is the first established A list star to explore IR the past year and half. Edited by - Zablon on 2/17/2010 8:46:41 PM
I was gonna ask who she will be paired with and then I realized that is an easy guess. My money is on Mr.Marcus...or Grandpa. Edited by - DeadManWalking on 2/17/2010 8:54:24 PM
I don't know if people consider them A List but London Keys and Asa Akira have shot their 1st IR scenes. Due out soon i believe. I read somewhere(Twitter I think, or another forum) Kagney Linn Karter might shot an IR scene this year. Now, That's the only I'm waiting for. Take in account that ZT and is related companies shoot IR. And ZT contract stars(Courtney Cummz, Sarah Sloane) continue to do IR. I gotta think there a good chance of that one being true. Now only if Rachel Starr, Marie McCray, Ahyran Astyn, Nikki Sexxx and Nikki Rhodes crossover. 2010 would be a great year. I'm not holding my breath on some of those. Well, most. Too many great foxy ladies doing IR to worry about the ones not. P.S. Oh and Phoenix Marie needs to come back.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 7:09AM
Yes.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 7:18AM
As far as popularity, I don't consider London and Asa Akira A list nonetheless they are on their way. Kristina may have probably reached that level in 2009. Even though Kagney is still relatively new she is an A list "newbie". To me A list are girls like Jenna Haze, Jesse Jane, Shyla Styles,Belladonna, Alexis Texas, Stormy, Alektra Blue, Jessica Drake, Lisa Ann, Bree Olsen, Sasha Grey,Nikki Benz and a few others.
I agree. London and Asa have a couple of boxcover between them. But they are all "Newcummer", "Freshmeat" type movies.
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Master D Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 8:14AM
Well I her on Kagney twitter will do IR this year and it will be from Black Ice. Also I ask Phoenix Marie is she coming back to IR and she said yes. As for Kagney who will do her first IR my money in on Mr Marcus but please no Wesley Pipes because he is in mostly Black Ice movies. Pluse she havea black boyfriend so she have alot of practie. As for the other girl that you said I did ask nikki about doing IR she said that she will be later on this year because she want to do anal, dp, and ir.
No way in hell would it be Wes Pipes. I dont think Kagney or ZT would do that to themselves. That would be like buying a Porsche, only to drive it straight into a wall. Cancel out B Pump too. Or at least, I hope.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 10:20AM
How come it is never Nat Turner? He has all the qualities of Marcus and Sean Michaels.
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Master D Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 10:36AM
Well Nat Turner is a good person but she will pick Sean Michaels or Mr Marcus. But most girls who do there first IR is with those two. But I would have to go with Nat Turner or Jon Jon.
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lack100 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 11:09AM
its bullshit that she picks to me..kagney has had so much sex with random none blacks she had just met. it shouldn't matter who the black guy is...like it doesn't matter who the other races are. she should let the fans pick for her or company choose whoever they want. again though enough of it always been sean or marcus time to miss it up. i wish it could be richard mann or mandingo.
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 12:58PM
Black Ice is very unlikely to cast Mr. Marcus in thier first KLK flick. I cannot remember him being used in any Black Ice production in recent years. Sean Micheals is even more unlikely as he hardly ever appears in a Black Ice production despite his appearance in that IR Cheerleader Orgy which Zero Tolerance/Black Ice did last year. Black Ice's most frequently used Afro-American actors are Prince Yashua, Nat Turner and Rock the Icon. They all give really great performances; no lovemaking - strickly back breaking with fiery, cheek rippling sex scenes; I have seen them much more often in Black Ice productions than either Micheals or Marcus who more often work for rival production companies like West Coast Productions, Evasive Angles or the Evil Empire. Mr. Marcus still puts on great performances from time to time for WCP and Evasive Angles but I hope to GOD that Sean Micheals's old 1958 ass will please become a full-time director and stop molesting those 21 year old girls with his tender lovemaking ass lol.
You guys are so funny with the IR thing. lol. I think it's a bigger way more sensitive topic here on ADT than anywhere else I've ever been in real life or on the interweb. Maybe that's because I grew up in Southern California. IDK. Anyways. Kags is my girl! We're neighbors actually. She is a very cool and sexual girl. Whomever she choses to do her first on camera IR scene with I'm sure it will be amazing! And if she works with a guy you don't dig, don't stress. That just means you'll have something to look forward to in the future DUh! :P Don't be Negative Nelly's! The glass is half full silly billys. Try to remember that. Negativity doesn't make anyone horny.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 1:41PM
Kristina is there any reason why you chose Ice Cold over veterans like LT, Marcus and Sean Michaels? You and LT are with the same company. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about the scene...just curious. Edited by - Zablon on 2/18/2010 1:42:10 PM