Alright let me switch it up, I'm trying to say the girls in Porn that really have a passion for what they do and aren't just their for a paycheck. Example- Jordan plays Basketball for love. Benoit , Angle wrestle for love.
They may love what they do, but the $$$ comes first. That applys to Michael Jordan, Jeanna Fine, George W Bush, and just about anyone else. I mean, why does Bill Gates continue to work?
This topic is obsurd. Sanders, the day you or I get up to work from 9 to 5 at the office for free, just for the love of work, is the day porno girls shoot for free.
I vaguely recall Max Hardcore saying that Barbie Angel (?) never asked for money. I can't remember exactly which girl he mentioned.
Almost all porno girls, like the rest of us, have bills to pay. Many of them have to support suitcase pimps and other bad habits, and it's not rare to have kids on the budget.
Another point: if you're going to have sex for fun is a porno set the place to do it? There are people coming and going and making noise, directors who want something different just when you're getting into it, and it may be hot or cold for an outdoors shoot. Even a girl who enjoys making porn could probably think of a more-exciting setting for sex.
In Hollywood, successful actors regularly work for less than their "going rate" for the chance to work on projects that are of personal interest to them. This also happens in porn.
As a producer, I have had personal experience with women working at both a reduced rate and for no fee.
T.C.
Edited by - TonyC on 10/5/2003 9:44:19 AM
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Posted - Oct 5 2003 : 10:12AM
With the upcoming possibility to do porn sets in Budapest, 2 of my girls have offered me to do a scene for free there. Their motive?: They really want to be on the ticket to West, and they do almost all for it, because they believe, that once there, they can make much more MONEY, than their collegues working in Ukraine for Western producers.
It is hard to destroy porn consumers phantasies. All the important things have already been said to Sanders. Maybe a visit to a real porn set, could help...but I doubt people living that much outside reality would learn something from it.
Everything in porn is a major exception to the norm.
-T.C.
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Posted - Oct 5 2003 : 5:11PM
TonyC, I got the impression as a producer you want to give the consumer what he likes to believe. This is your good right. I think a lot of consumers really call to be deceived. But lets face it, if starring in sex films was not payed, less than 10 films could be produced anually. And they would be completely underground. I had girls getting off during our casting and even 1 having two of the strongest orgasms I have ever noticed while being double analed; sure for the lucky ones there is pleasure involved too, but that does not lead to professional performances for free.
I know only one example of a free professional act. That was Renee Porneros DAP for Un-natural Sex#9. The Austrian porn girl writes on her homepage that she was so excited about this not-planned DAP, that she did not charge an extra-fee afterwards. But remember: She cashed in the ordinary fee, just didnt ask for extra payment. And I well bet, she did it because she wants to get booked by Diabolic again. Dont mix up free sex acts for promotional reasons (in order to earn more later), with acts just for free.
This all said, I dont really mind naive porn consumers to be made believe what they want. Problem just is that most consumers hanging out at ADT are not of this naive kind.