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| joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09 |  Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 2:16AMDoes anyone know of any sites shooting in 60fps? If I were given the choice between a movie at SD resolution shot at 60 frames a second and a 108 hex 1920 movie that was shot at 30 frames a second, I'd take the 60fps version any day. It's like looking through a window! It just looks amazingly clear... and with many new high-end prosumer camcorders now able to shoot in 60fps, there's no reason not to shoot it this way. They could release the higher quality 60fps stuff for the sites, and then release a downsampled version for dvds and blu ray. Even if they DIDN'T release the 60fps stuff now, they would be futureproofing their content for later... I know Jim Cameron recently announced that the new Avatar would be shot at 60fps (or maybe 48fps)... it's time we bring this tech to porn! I guess that at this point the holy grail would be a a porn shot on a RED 4k camera; they actually would be somewhat reasonable to rent for a day shoot; around 700 bucks for the body, lens, and data packs. It might be a bit of a one-time expense, but can you imagine being the first company to release a porn shot at 400 hex 2400 at 60fps? A boy can dream... But in the mean-time, if you know of any site that is putting out 60fps content right now, let me know! I want to give them some of my money... [Link] |
| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 2:31AM [Link] |
| joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09 | Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 6:11AM I think pretty much every video card in every pc in the last 5 years has been capable of generating 60fps. Right now I'm using a two-year old 900 dollar laptop, with a 1080 x 1920 screen, along with an additional 1080 x 1920 monitor connected at the back... and I know I can run two full 1080p videos simultaneously, and I'm pretty sure I've run two 60 fps videos at the same time (though I don't think they were 1080 resolution). And this is on a very very cheap two year old computer running dual monitors... Lots and lots of sits offer HD as an option. That's all I'm suggesting... shoot in 60fps 1080p, and then give us the option as to what will work on our system, be it HD, SD, 60fps, or 30fps. One of the big sites (maybe brazzers?) charges a bit more for access to the HD version of their clips; I'd be willing to pay the same for a 60fps version were it available. If much of the reason for the move to HD filming was to give us a more immersive experience, then I would argue that 60fps--even at standard resolution--is much more immersive than HD shot at 30fps. But regardless... there's no real technical reason NOT to offer it in additional to a 30fps version right now, and it might be a good selling point to a particular site, so I just wish some of the big boys like kink, brazzers, etc would jump on it. It's often been noted that porn tends to be at the leading edge of emerging technologies (like the VCR, VOD, the internet). Now hollywood seems to the one on leading edge. C'mon porn producers... don't let Jim Cameron take your glory! [Link] |
| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 1:06PM [Link] |
| joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09 | Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 2:19PM It's clear that this is the direction where everything is going; so why are some of the big boys jumping on the bandwagon early. It's a WAY smaller hurdle than it was 3 years ago when porn companies started putting out 720 and 1080 HD stuff, knowing that only a small percentage of consumers could play it. Now that number is clearly much higher -- its the same folks who can now play 60fps... I wish there were a free sample somewhere to link too; the effect really is astonishing... [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Sep 23 2011 : 2:30PM [Link] |
| Drebin Member 686 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Sep 27 2011 : 4:47PM i would think heaps of porn would have been filmed in 1080p/60fps the last 2-3 years but obviously like a lot of entertainment media its compressed down to save time+money when producing and distributing. a lot of new porn releases don't even recieve a bluray release even though on the dvd it says "filmed in HD" pretty much every low budget indy/stv mainstream movies get a bluray release these days but as mentioned above we can't say the same for porn. at least the hd download/vod sites like brazzers, 21sextury etc. are right up there quality wise with itunes and amazon etc. [Link] |
| bootz Member 46 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Oct 2 2011 : 4:04PM Generally these '60fps' videos are encoded from standard 25/30fps. What you seeing is the interpolation generated by compression. I'm sure there has been some effect for playback software todo this live. Intresting point to raise thought. [Link] |
| JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08 | Posted - Oct 2 2011 : 5:44PM BTW, I'm not arguing to force anyone to use it. I know some videophiles cringe at the thought of movies being released in higher than 24fps, because they like the "illusion" that the choppy 24fps gives, and they associate it with film (no wonder since they've watched films that way all their lives). But at least let the director choose which format to use. If a director insists of continuing with 24fps then that's his prerogrative (as would black/and white be if he preferred that). I would still think its sad that a good movie would forever be stuck at a choppy, unnatural fps that was agreed to in the 1920s, but as long as there is a choice out there, the director will have the opportunity to use higher fps if he wants to. [Link] |
| joeblow123321 Member 319 Posts 11/09 | Posted - Oct 3 2011 : 12:22AM Ironically there are a LOT of lower-end consumer camcorders with 60fps... but they don't have the capabilities that a porn shoot probably needs. And the higher-end stuff is probably out of their league. As I mentioned before, I'd like to see a porn company go out and rent a RED camera and shoot at 60fps in full 4k resolution (which is 6 times the resolution of blu-ray). Not that your computer wouldn't explode trying to play it and not that you'd need the highest of high end monitors just to fit the picture... but that would be the craziest, clearest porn thing ever shot. There's not a huge amount of downside to shooting higher res and downsampling for your various uses... you just can't go the other direction. Which is why every TV show shot on video made before about 2007 looks like shit and has a limited value now. But shows shot on film where they are able to scan the original footage look great and continue to have great appeal. [Link] |
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