Porn is getting too CLEAN CUT.

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jaynaoso_stalker Member 53 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 11:48PM I noticed alot in the past year or so alot of porn has gotten alot "cleaner". Less girls coming in as a first scene DP or seemingly "experienced anal girl" or cum swallower. Instead Im seeing alot of Girl Next Door looks that look like they had never done anal or swallowed cum in their life and you can kind of tell they just told them to try it out. What happened to the DAPs? What happened to the multiple cumshot swallowers in a non cum swallowing themed movie? What happened to girls getting booked in what seemed like 10 back to back DP scenes in their first year of porn like when Jasmine Byrne tore into the industry. And back to that "girl next door thing" its seems like more girls are getting in and out of the business quicker than ever before. A lot less "career oriented" starlets... [Link]
jaynaoso_stalker Member 53 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jul 1 2008 : 11:50PM Now that I think of it. This started back around the 2004 scare period... I wonder if that has anything to do with this change. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 3:32AM I have NO problem with the girl next door look! Personally, I think it's a change for the better. I've always wanted to see more porn with more girls who look, dress, talk and act like ordinary girls. That doesn't mean you can't have nasty hardcore. But I don't know. It kind of turns me off when a chick just casually splits herself on a supposed stranger's cock like she does it every day. We can still have hardcore. I'd rather see them work into it. It's not that nice girls don't do nasty. The concept for good porn is nice girls can be surprisingly nasty. Over the years, whenever I see a porn flick, I invariably find myself thinking "Wow! If I could only see (Insert name here) doing that. And usually, whom ever she is, she's just a woman I think is hot from the grocery store or the corner shop or the gas station. But whoever she is, she has a unique personality and usually dresses and acts in a subtly unique way that most porn simply hasn't really successfully imitated yet. But I like what I'm seeing. I've seen more effort being put into it lately in some porn and that can only be good for folks like me. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 3:46AM jaynaoso_stalker wrote: And back to that "girl next door thing" its seems like more girls are getting in and out of the business quicker than ever before. A lot less "career oriented" starlets... Click to expand That doesn't really bother me either. I generally find a girl's first few months the most satisfying. That's when she still kind of has a bit of wherever she came from in her and it still actually shows. After a while, they start to homogenize with the rest of the industry and Hollywood in general. And not in a good way. The porn industry could certainly benefit from having such a large male talent pool to choose from. Other than a few really good studs, a lot of the male talent has really seen better days (or never had them). I wouldn't mind women sticking around into their mid 40s if they could only retain their originality, physical uniqueness and personality. but I lose interest quick the second I see that a girl is starting to morph into yet another Jenna Jameson clone. When they start screwing with their hair too much (especially in very obvious ways), getting plastic surgery and the typical porn star makeup, they've lost whatever they had that made them interesting. I don't even mind change. It's when they all change into the same person that bothers me. Anyway. I don't think it's bad for the girls to come and go either. It might not be the greatest thing for them (physically or emotionally) to be in porn for a decade or more. [Link]
cross Senior Member I Love Beef Curtains! 1072 Posts 6/05	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 5:47AM I know what you mean though - I hate getting hooked on a cute "girl next" door type only to have her vapourise because her boyfriend has ordered her out of the biz. These 'for the thrill of it' girls can get a bit tedious because you've got to sift through so much crap scenes with these first timers clearly not into it so you start asking yourself why bother watching and why bother trying to follow a girls career. The name changes get a bit heavy too, one minute they're one name next they're something else cos they're trying to change their image. I have a great big massive HELL YEAH to career stars who love what they do and are gona be in this business for as long as they can be. It's getting to the point where these one minute one flick thrill seekers are going to be put into a corner of a market where they're purely internet only or hired by a set few studios for "Spring break" amatuer titles that people who want to watch that stuff are going to buy. There are too many stunning Carrer Pornstars who deserve (and get) my attention before these wanna be nymphos who are probably more or less getting tricked out by their boyfriends for a laugh at 18 years old. It's the carrer babes who's product I buy and footage I want to see they're why im here. It's becuase they're fucking sexy, fucking cool and they love what they're doing. For me that's the turn on. [Link]

Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 2:26PM What's that line from the old Sly Stone song: "Different strokes for different folks." Clean Cut porn works just fine for me. It's also a sign of the times: porn can't survive by only appealing to the (very vocal) fans who want extreme, nasty, hard-hard-hardcore porno sex scenes. To continue to make money, the industry has to diversify; have at least some customers who enjoy Playboy--but not Hustler. Customers who want porn to be more story and character-driven. With "real life" sex, not "porno sex." For a while porn makers thought that "porn sex" was what everyone wanted. Not true. Oh yeah, I also think there are probably some girls who are in the biz, or would like to be in the biz, but don't want to do anal, ass/pussy dp's, or cum swallow/swapping. Wouldn't want to deny them a place in the industry. [Link]
jaynaoso_stalker Member 53 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 11:24PM I have no problem with the industry diverifying.... but not changing. Companies that put out 80% anal, DP, cum swallowing themed movies have almost flipped and gone the other way at 20%... Anabolic/Diabolic, Red Light District/PX, Jules Jordan, Evil Empire, 3rd Degree, Lethal Hardcore.... All examples of what Im talking about. I dont care if they add cleaner scenes into the mix, but instead its replacing the good old hardcore smut I grew up watching. [Link]
jaynaoso_stalker Member 53 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jul 2 2008 : 11:31PM Im just going to throw this out there... It seems like before porn was made up majorily of ex-strippers and street walkers who were well versed in all types of sexual acts. Now we are getting just your average permiscuous high school chick that says "My goal is to make $XXXXX.xx then quit". [Link]
Rayne squirt idiot 13 Posts 7/08	Posted - Jul 4 2008 : 3:39AM If porn has gotten to be too clean..its not because of the girl next door factor....because any woman who is paid enough will do her best to play the part of the girl who just stepped off the greyhouse bus and entered the new porn studio and is ready to work and show what shes got with her sexual skills....instead the blame for this sense of a vacant attitude in porn today is the lack of any creativity and terrible lousy directors and producers who spend way too much time making the same bullshit porn that nobody wants to see anymore.. Case in point....Elegant Angel " Big Wet Asses" You can put in as many beautiful talented professional and amateur woman in your adult videos as much as u want ..but it wont matter, if the sex itself is boring, predictable and doesnt have an edge....isnt erotic and doesnt stimulate your mind and body watching it over and over again!!! I see that with Big Wet Asses, a lot of the sex scenes involve a guy and 2 girls ...like how much more erotic can that be?? compared to having something more dirty like 4 wet lesbian women in the same room, eating pussys nice and hard, strap-on fucking each other like crazy and squirting and pissing all overs face , tits, assholes and mouth and pussys? If you people are tired of clean porn...then just tell these directors..we want more erotic porn thats realistic with both new amateur women and seasoned pornstar performers who know what their doing in terms of sex . And at the same time...ask all these studios ( ELEGANT ANGEL, EVIL ANGEL, WICKED, RED LIGHT, VCX, VCA, VIVID, PLEASURE PRODUCTIONS, NEW SENSATIONS, JM PRODUCTIONS , AND DOGHOUSE DIGITAL ) that there should BE MORE HARDCORE LESBIAN PORN thats focused on lesbian sex....not lesbian abuse, but L-E-S-B-I-A-N S-E-X...that means strap on fucking , pussy squirting and good old fashioned lesbian 69 pussy on pussy sex =) Edited by - Rayne on 7/4/2008 3:40:47 AM [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 9:09AM jaynaoso_stalker wrote: I have no problem with the industry diverifying.... but not changing. Companies that put out 80% anal, DP, cum swallowing themed movies have almost flipped and gone the other way at 20%... Anabolic/Diabolic, Red Light District/PX, Jules Jordan, Evil Empire, 3rd Degree, Lethal Hardcore.... All examples of what Im talking about. I dont care if they add cleaner scenes into the mix, but instead its replacing the good old hardcore smut I grew up watching. Click to expand Couldn't agree more. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 10:41AM Maybe DVD releases but there are still a lot of sites on the internet which you can join and you will get what you want depending on your taste. [Link]
backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 11:05AM As great and innovative as gonzo was I think it has killed porno in many ways. A lot of talentless hacks have picked up the camera and have suddenly become "directors". [Link]
Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 3:39PM Well, consider this angle. It's just product that a company puts out. Its a way for the company to save money. It's cheaper to have the girl do one mope than to pay her extra to do 10 mopes. Plus, you're not paying the extra 9 mopes or having to buy them all a few bagels at the local store. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 5:14PM Derek117 wrote: It's also a sign of the times: porn can't survive by only appealing to the (very vocal) fans who want extreme, nasty, hard-hard-hardcore porno sex scenes. To continue to make money, the industry has to diversify; have at least some customers who enjoy Playboy--but not Hustler. Customers who want porn to be more story and character-driven. With "real life" sex, not "porno sex." For a while porn makers thought that "porn sex" was what everyone wanted. Not true. Oh yeah, I also think there are probably some girls who are in the biz, or would like to be in the biz, but don't want to do anal, ass/pussy dp's, or cum swallow/swapping. Wouldn't want to deny them a place in the industry. Click to expand Exactly! [Link]
JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 5:21PM Porn too clean? I don't know the numbers - and I bet no one does - but for every thread claiming porn is too clean there seems to be 10 claiming thing are getting too rough, abusive, hardcore, violent or just repulsive. I don't buy it. [Link]

backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07	Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 6:51PM ^ Me neither ! What porn is missing is fantasy, imagination and storyline. Features rock ! [Link]
Jesse Midnite Member Commisioner of Porn Quality Control 522 Posts 2/08	Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 12:35AM Porn getting too clean cut? May I suggest getting a copy of Evil Anal 8. I've been checking it out tonight. You got Harmony Rose gettting dragged around by the hair, sucking dildos out of Mackenzie Pierce and Mya Nichole's assholes, Kristina Rose & Andi Anderson getting filthy, and Maya Hills & Jamie Elle up tho their usual anal extravaganzas. You just got to know where to look and who to trust when getting porn these days. Every Jay Sin video is an anal science experiment that always looks like a cartoon where you expect a giant splat could occur at any moment. Bitchcraft never disappoints, and I expect a big year from Jules & Co. Fear not, there's a good crop of young dirty sluts that will get you through. [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 8:41AM Ramsey wrote: Maybe DVD releases but there are still a lot of sites on the internet which you can join and you will get what you want depending on your taste. Click to expand Very true. Old habits die hard, as one who's long been more attuned to watching porn on tv, rather than computer. I've since discovered however a number of sites targeting my specific interests, and have redirected my shopping efforts as a result. Alternating memberships between a few selected sites, has kept my somewhat ambitious viewing regimen, richly served, and equally entertained. [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 8:43AM Edited by - Endless Loop on 1/29/2009 3:45:19 AM [Link]
voodoomedia Member Midwest Fresh 46 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 4:11PM And back to that "girl next door thing" its seems like more girls are getting in and out of the business quicker than ever before. A lot less "career oriented" starlets... Click to expand I think this has more to do with less career oriented agents. Eighteen and Nineteen year old girls getting into this business are at the mercy of those that fill their heads with advice. In my opinion they are way too young to think about a career and in fact the reason they have even ventured into porn is because they have no career in mind. Enter agents and suitcase pimps that shuffle them off to whatever scene they can find for them with little regards for developing them as a brand. Nor take the time to find out what innate talents of interests they may have. [Link]
john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 2:59PM backdoorman wrote: As great and innovative as gonzo was I think it has killed porno in many ways. A lot of talentless hacks have picked up the camera and have suddenly become "directors". Click to expand Precisely. [Link]
kristinarose Member 797 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 9:09PM Jesse Midnite wrote: Porn getting too clean cut? May I suggest getting a copy of Evil Anal 8. I've been checking it out tonight. You got Harmony Rose gettting dragged around by the hair, sucking dildos out of Mackenzie Pierce and Mya Nichole's assholes, Kristina Rose & Andi Anderson getting filthy, and Maya Hills & Jamie Elle up tho their usual anal extravaganzas. You just got to know where to look and who to trust when getting porn these days. Every Jay Sin video is an anal science experiment that always looks like a cartoon where you expect a giant splat could occur at any moment. Bitchcraft never disappoints, and I expect a big year from Jules & Co. Fear not, there's a good crop of young dirty sluts that will get you through. Click to expand Thanks for the props. I haven't seen this movie yet, but this is one of the one's that I just can't wait to watch. The scene I did with Manuel for Evil Anal 8 to this day is one of my top favorite scenes. Manuel is amazing, everything just flowed and I'm sure it shows. ;) [Link]
Jesse Midnite Member Commisioner of Porn Quality Control 522 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 2 2009 : 8:27PM ^^^ LOVED the tights in the tub. Although I must say I prefer Andi as talent and not behind the camera. How was it working with her and will you two ever pair up again? [Link]
kristinarose Member 797 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 10:14PM ^^^ I think it's safe to say that everyone prefers Andi in front of the camera rather than behind it, even Andi. LOL. I'd work with Andi again. She's a very sweet girl. The pink tights and the tub was all Manuel, although I did become a bit of a muse with the things I did in that tub etc. We had a rad day that day. We just kept going back and forth taking everything further and further. He would want me to do something while we were shooting and without even asking me I'd do it. We were both on the same page. Hence why I love working with Manuel. We click. It makes life easy so you just have to worry about having fun rather than making a good scene. I can't wait to see it. [Link]
Jesse Midnite Member Commisioner of Porn Quality Control 522 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 10:53PM ^^^ You'll love it when you see it. I checked out Swimsuit Calendar Girls 2 as well and you were great, especially the anal on belly. Even though it was brief, it's my favorite part of the scene. Another question for you and thanks for all your responses, are you ever gonna take a road trip with your fellow Spiegler Girls to San Francisco to the Armory for some REAL non-clean cut adventures, or is that stuff to rough for you. Thanks again. [Link]

kristinarose Member 797 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 3:59PM ^^^ I've been requested several times to make a trip up so SF for some real rough stuff but I was already booked. I'm so down. We'll see what happens. Maybe this will be my year. [Link]
Jesse Midnite Member Commisioner of Porn Quality Control 522 Posts 2/08	Posted - Feb 5 2009 : 12:45AM ^^^^ If you go this year, kink.com's subscriptions will notice a huge spike from all your fans here. Would you do Training of O? I'm sure you'd do Fucking Machines and Sex and Submission, just stay away from the wrestiling crap, I'm sure Dana would attest to that. Edited by - jesse midnite on 2/5/2009 1:46:54 AM [Link]